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Several months ago, I asked a question about the purpose of the template located at Template:Adventism. Although the template's name implied that it was about the general topic of Advantism, the contents of the template itself was entirely dedicated to just one branch of Advantism, the Seventh-day Adventist Church.1 However I never received an answer as to why the template was almost entirely focused on the Seventh-day Advent Church, while still being applied to general Adventist topics that had no connection with the Seventh-day Advent Church. After mulling this over since then, I've decided to move the previous template to Template:Seventh-day Adventism, which more accurately describes the template, and create a more general, and more inclusive, Adventism template at Template:Adventism. --Farix (Talk) 18:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agree entirely with the logic. The fact that I am now disambiguating "Sabbath" into Sabbath in Seventh-day Adventism may seem at odds with this, but consider: (1) The Sabbath article is the summary of everything that is (rightly or wrongly) called Sabbath, while the Adventism article contains the theology appropriate to this template; (2) the Adventism article does allude to other seventh-day movements beside SDA. Last year I remarked that the Adventism article should be retitled and recast because it "should" refer to something like Seventh-day Sabbath in Christianity, which topic is hardly unique to SDA, does not otherwise exist, and is certainly notable. I trust that with that proviso the disambiguation is appropriate. JJB 00:01, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

The "series" wikilink I added to Category:Adventist isn't working on at least one page I viewed. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 01:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Did you purge the page's cache? --Farix (Talk) 01:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the link to "Sabbath keeping in seventh-day churches" as William Miller himself rejected the doctrine along with most of the groups that sprang from the Millerite movement. Seventh-day Adventists were one of the exceptions to this, not the rule. ^[1] Qinael (talk) 22:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While Miller may have rejected the doctrine, several Adventist groups did adopt it such as the General Conference of the Church of God (Seventh-Day) and the Jehovah's Witness. The later of which is not a direct decedent of the Millerite/Adventist movement, but it was heavily influenced by the movement. That along added to the fact that the SDA is the largest of the Adventist groups, it has a place in the template. The other question is, who many SDA splinter groups belong in this template? --Farix (Talk) 22:44, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Jehovah's Witnesses are a Sunday-keeping group that believe the law was done away with at the cross. In no way can they be considered a Sabbath-keeping group, however their ideas on this do match up with the majority of post-Millerite Adventists. So far I know of two groups from Millerism that accepted the Seventh-day doctrine; Church of God Seventh Day, and Seventh-day Adventists. The rest were known collectively to the latter as "First Day Adventists" and, from all indications, made up the vast majority of the movements which came from it. I think that the Sabbath issue should be limited to the Seventh-day Adventism template if it's justification is going to be it's relation to Seventh-day Adventism. If we're going to define Millerism by the practices of Seventh-day Adventism because of it's size, we may as well simply re-combine this template with the one from which it was separated. If the template is about Millerite Adventism, then it's not about the beliefs of certain groups that arose post-Millerism; one or two of which became Seventh-day. Qinael (talk) 00:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I converted the sidebar to use lists which improves wp:accessibility and reduces code complexity. feel free to discuss any formatting issues here, thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]