User talk:Cinefilm

Thanks for your contributions to SALVATORE RUOCCO. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it needs more sources to establish notability and structurally it's needs major work. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. BoyTheKingCanDance (talk) 16:13, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cinefilm! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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KylieTastic (talk) 18:02, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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KylieTastic (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:SALVATORE RUOCCO. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 19:59, 22 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

i couldn't find the comment button on the draft, so i'll just do it here

just some things you should keep in mind if you want that article approved

• a picture can help the article look somewhat presentable, but it has to be free. if you have one you took yourself for some hopefully legal reason, it shows him front and center and is higher quality than the average ps1 texture, you can try submitting it, but otherwise, the one already on italian wp should do just fine
• i'm 100% completely sure imdb is not a reliable source (as said in the comments in the draft), but only 80% sure huffington post, rotten tomatoes, and allmovie aren't. this also seems to be a problem in the italian article
• inline citations for just about every sentence is pretty much a must for blp's
• i don't know if there was a personal life section that got mostly king crimson'd out of existence, but the draft says "he was born in naples- and that's how he was brought in to work with shia labeouf". the italian article goes a bit more in depth, but i can't actually read italian beyond my understanding of the somewhat similar language that is portuguese
• you don't need to worry about the language of the sources that mention him (besides stating that the non-english ones are, in fact, not in english), but they have to meet the reliable source criteria of being secondary (not related to him), focusing on him as opposed to only tangentially mentioning him in a footnote, and not being imdb. if none exist, he's probably not notable enough

cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 19:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you with all my heart, ok I'll try to improve immediately. Thanks again Cinefilm (talk) 20:23, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

cogsan Hi I tried to upload the photo with source: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18272884/mediaviewer/rm1012346625/?ref_=tt_md_4

But he doesn't accept it. How can I do? Thank you in advance Cinefilm (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

can't you use the exact same one from the italian article?

i'm pretty sure commons lets people use the same images for multiple languages cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 21:51, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This I think is more up to date since the film is from 2022. I try with the Italian wikipedia Thank youCinefilm (talk) 22:08, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

as of this revision, there are some more, worse problems

namely, the giant text block detailing his personal life being phrased like an autobiography reworded to be in third person (see wp:autobio and/or wp:blpstyle for info, but the short version is that claiming "he should have won that fight, he got cheated >:C" isn't wording that gets accepted here), having no sources, and being a giant text block

if it's copied from somewhere, it's probably good to source it, only quote the important parts, and only do so when it adds important info (or get rid of it because of the unencyclopedic wording, see wp:promo for info), and if it's not, it'd need to be heavily reworded and sourced... or gotten rid of since it's still phrased like a draw my life video

the grammar isn't really something to worry about as much though. i can try to do something about it once i actually understand the timeline, and maybe put that picture from the italian article in here too

lastly, try checking your edits with both the visual and source editors, so you can deal with those pesky ↵s cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 12:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

HI cogsan

I edited the biography, made it shorter and more sensible.

I hope it goes well.

Thank you for the many tips, in addition to being a great professional, you are really kind.

I hope you will publish this page, I'm working hard on it. Cinefilm (talk) 23:58, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

nice. it's starting to look more complete

unfortunately, i don't actually have the ability to approve drafts (i think), so the best i can do is use the upcoming weekend to find the necessary sources soon cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 00:29, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks [[cogsan] Cinefilm (talk) 09:14, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by DoubleGrazing were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

The references that have been added since the last decline are insufficient for establishing notability per WP:GNG. Also, the sources must be cited inline against the content that they support, not piled at the end like that. (And please remove the external links which are not being used as references.)

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Salvatore Ruocco and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Kline was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Still missing inline citations. Please see the minimum standards for inline citations.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Kline • talk to me! • contribs 20:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cinefilm. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:13, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

gonna butt in and say that i don't think it's a coi, but probably more of a cir deal

they mostly seem to be forgetting to put the citations anywhere besides a lump at the end of the text, and resubmitting it without doing that

i tried to look for sources a small handful of times, but haven't actually found anything, which points to salvatore not being notable in general, but that's besides the point cogsan • (give me attention) • (see my deeds) 12:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Ldm1954 was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: The article has been declined multiple times, and there is no evidence that the author is prepared to edit it by including relevant sources. Currently it appears to be a translation of the Italian page, which also has no sources. (Different languages, different Wikipedia rules.) The article was deleted three years ago after a WP:AfD discussion, so I see no reason not to remove it.

Ldm1954 (talk) 22:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]