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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
February 28 1
March 2
March 12 1
March 14 1
March 19 1
March 24 1
March 25 3
March 30 2
March 31 1
April 1 1
April 2 4 2
April 4 4 1
April 5 3 3
April 6 7 6
April 7 8 7
April 8 7 6
April 9 6 3
April 10 4 3
April 11 1 1
April 12 3 3
April 13 17 12
April 14 7 2
April 15 12 9
April 16 8 6
April 17 10 7
April 18 9 5
April 19 10 6
April 20 11 8
April 21 9 6
April 22 5 1
April 23 7 3
April 24 9 2
April 25
Total 173 102
Last updated 00:51, 25 April 2024 UTC
Current time is 01:36, 25 April 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the supplementary guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions[edit]

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Instructions for reviewers[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 28[edit]

Kirby: King of Comics

Jack Kirby
Jack Kirby

5x expanded by OlifanofmrTennant (talk). Self-nominated at 20:54, 1 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kirby: King of Comics; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

  • Expanded 5x, from 319 to 1614 characters; long enough. Well-sourced, neutral, no plagiarism. I like the first hook; its source is reliable. Great image; I agree that's a better one than the book cover. Well done taking a stub to a short-ish and salvageable article. Good to go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Figureskatingfan (talkcontribs) 21:12, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have pulled this nom from prep, as it fails to include a summary of the book's contents and thus fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE. It also contains at least two errors, one which says Evanier "obtained" artworks from Kirby "while working for him" - he only obtained access, and not apparently while working for him, and another which says the book was met with "positive" reviews when in fact it was panned by The Guardian critic. The article clearly needs more work before it can be featured, if it should be featured at all given the apparent errors. Gatoclass (talk) 09:50, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gatoclass I've begun working on a summary of the books contents, its been a while sinces I've read the book so I'll have to look over it again Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging nominator OlifanofmrTennant, reviewer Figureskatingfan, and promoter PrimalMustelid. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:15, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There has been no improvement of the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: I feel that their has been improvement of the article I've just been struggling to find content supported backed up by sources.Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Upon reviewing policy I belive that it would be covered under WP:DYKCITEQuestions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at this. The summary is extremely short, to the point of remaining woefully incomplete. Still fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE. Time to pass on this as the nominator just isn't accepting what they are being told.4meter4 (talk) 13:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@4meter4: I've expanded it a bit how much would be needed? I fear that to much would just be a mini biography of Jack Kirby. It took me a while to begin writing the summary as I didnt have my copy at the time.Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 14:40, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OlifanofmrTennant The summary needs to present a complete but not overly detailed picture of the book's entire plot. It should provide enough detail to give the reader a general picture of the book's contents. It should not be too vague (which it currently is) nor should it be overly detailed. It should be a summary. See MOS:PLOT and Wikipedia:Summary style for guidance. I would suggest removing the bulleted point by chapter. It isn't entirely necessary to break down the content into chapters. It would be better to concentrate on narrative. What is the story being told? Summarize that story. Since this is a biography it should be biographical. Best.4meter4 (talk) 14:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Books/Non-fiction article on summaries for non-fiction such as biographies. It might be helpful to think about how you would summarize the book if you were writing for a summary on the book jacket of the back of the book, or if you were having to write a book summary for an English class, or an abstract for a journal article book review in which a summary is provided as part of a review. All of those require narrative and details but still succinct writing with an overview scope. You should be able to craft one or two paragraps of prose that summarizes the book's narrative arc. 4meter4 (talk) 15:26, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]

Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]

Forever Young (horse)

Forever Young
Forever Young

Created by NinetyNineDragon (talk). Self-nominated at 16:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Forever Young (horse); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

    • Comments: Well done for creating such an article. However, to make this article more presentable as I mentioned in the Talk area of the article that the Japanese references in the article need to be replaced with English. Both JBIS and Netkeiba have English and can readily be used as references.
    • The statistics needs to conform to what is used in the English wikipedia space. There are columns with abbreviations which as specific in Japanese form reader but for the US/English make no sense. Also the odds are not displayed as payout coefficients. Margins are in lengths or part of horse's posture (head, neck, nose etc...) Brudder Andrusha (talk) 21:49, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • First of all, thank you very much for revising the article. The quality of the article cannot be decent without your help. Second, may I know whether there are any rules stating that English references are better than those which are not in English? For articles about Japanese stuff, isn't that Japanese references are more accurate and relevant?
      • Third, for your comment about the abbreviations in the statistics section, could you provide some good articles for my reference? You may guess that I am not that familiar with horse racing from my contributions (but obviously someone with limited knowledge cannot write this article). NinetyNineDragon (talk) 15:39, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a comment and not a review, but even as someone who's watched Uma Musume, I'm not a fan of the hook. It's more about Fujita or even the game itself than the horse, and the guidelines say that hooks that are only tangentially about the bolded article should be avoided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I believe the hook is definitely not tangentially about the article. The information in the hook is completely mentioned in the headline of the source (the Nikkan Sports article) I put above. I guess not everyone here knows Japanese so let me put a rough translations of the headline here: "[Saudi Derby] Uma Musume's Fujita Susumu Got First Overseas Graded Race Victory, Owns Forever Young '[I] won'". If you google Japanese news articles about Forever Young, you will find it is not rare for them to mention Uma Musume at the same time.
    • If you think it is not generally interesting enough, is this better to you:
    ALT1: ... that someone wants Forever Young (pictured), the winner of the Saudi Derby, to be turned into a horse girl because he is owned by the CEO of CyberAgent? Source: https://www.inside-games.jp/article/2023/12/13/150914.html
I mean, even the source you provided (or at least the quote) focuses on the owner and not the horse itself. Having said that, ALT1 might be better and address my concerns, but the wording isn't the greatest given how vague the word "someone" is in this context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Full review needed, including hooks. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - ?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Thank you for this positive article about a racehorse. The picture is nice, too. Just two issues:

  • (1) Earwig picks up only one phrase: the track record for the distance by about two seconds. Please rephrase it, to avoid copyright violation..
  • Hooks: ALT0 is fine. We are talking about a racehorse here, which is not a person or a pet. In this context it is a sports icon and the property of an investor (Some of us may not like that, but that's not the point. The point is the facts). So we must compare it to articles about racing cars, racing bikes etc. where riders, owners and winnings get all the attention.
  • (2) In ALT1, the word "someone" is a bit weird, even a bit creepy. Maybe name them - or at least their trade or position?
  • Re article content: notability for this subject seems to be about the winning record, which is a good one in this case. and the winnings are tabled in full in the article. So no problem of content there.
  • I have given the article a minor copyedit, which does not affect DYK.

If you can resolve the above two issues, then this nomination should be good to go. Storye book (talk) 11:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: @NinetyNineDragon: As of this edit on 16 April 2024, the article has had a number of new edits, but the above issues have not been addressed. Please resolve this? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 11:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: @NinetyNineDragon: Points (1) and (2) above have still not been addressed. Please do that? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 09:25, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]

Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark

Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace. Specific subjects are identified here.
Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace. Specific subjects are identified here.

The executed Nicholas II of Russia. The queen that never set foot in her country, Alexandra of Yugoslavia. Accomplished Olympian Constantine II of Greece. The last king of the Congo, Baudouin of Belgium. An heir forging his 21st-century path, William, Prince of Wales. What do all of these people have in common (besides being royals)? They can claim descent from the Father-in-law of Europe, Christian IX of Denmark!

If this DYK is approved, readers will be enticed to learn about how the royal families of Europe are biological relatives to a closer extent than some may think! Created by AndrewPeterT (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 18 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.



@AndrewPeterT: Hi, there! I will be reviewing this Did You Know nomination. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 23:55, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review checklists

DYK eligibility scan results: (See here for details.)

  • Prose size (text only): 7669 characters (1201 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article created by AndrewPeterT on March 9, 2024
  • Article moved from Draft:Descendants of Christian IX of Denmark on March 14, 2024
  • Article has not been expanded 5x since it was created
  • Article has not been created or expanded 5x or promoted to Good Article within the past 10 days (27 days) DYKcheck does not account for previous versions with splits or copyright violations.


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Yes Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Review discussion

@AndrewPeterT: Well done for nominating this article, a topic that is of great interest to me. The hook I prefer is ALT0. As you'd know, there are a few criteria for DYK:

  • This article was moved into the mainspace on 14 March and nominated on 18 March. Therefore, it is new enough.
  • My immediate primary concern for this article was the overwhelming amount of tables in its use. However, good use of background information for each child ensures that there are around 6800-6900 characters of original prose. This makes the article long enough.
  • These hooks, of which I prefer ALT0, are adequately sources, so there do exist cited hooks.
  • As you have less than five DYK nominations, there is no quid pro quo required.
  • Finally, the article's prose is well cited. Information within some tables, however, is not. Though it is clear that effort has been made to source information in some tables, some tables lack sourcing entirely. I am not too concerned with lack of sources for their birth and death dates as that can be found on their respective articles, but it is moreso their children. For example, three of Princess Alexandra of Hanover and Cumberland's children lack sources.
  • The article has good spelling and grammar. There are a few fixes that could be made:
    • "would go on to have" ➜ "had"
    • "would go on to fight" ➜ "fought"
    • "would go on long sea voyages..." ➜ "went on long sea voyages..."
    • "Also, Alexandra and Edward's eldest..." ➜ "Additionally [or Furthermore, Moreover, etc.], Alexandra and Edward's eldest..."
    • After addressing him, he no longer needs to be repeatedly called "George I", he can just be called "George". Same goes for anyone else with ordinals. If it is a new paragraph, feel free to restate the ordinal. I would suggest however, you write "Christian IX" instead of "Christian" the whole time.
    • "Dagmar took the name Maria Feodorovna" ➜ "Dagmar took the name "Maria Feodorovna"". Italics not needed here. Quotation marks around her name is optional and up to you.
    • "Moreover, both Nicholas and Michael were killed during the Russian Revolution." ➜ "Moreover, both Nicholas and Michael, along with Nicholas's five children, were killed during the Russian Revolution." Yes, only talking about the children are being talked about, but it is best to include them as they were also closely-related relatives who also died as a result of the Revolution.
    • In the ALT0 hook, I would change it from "the parents to" ➜ "the parents of".

So, in summary, all that needs to be addressed is the sourcing within tables and a few spelling and grammar mistakes. I am also a bit concerned with the amount of WP:WHITESPACE. If this can't be fixed, it is not too much of a concern. Please let me know if you need any assistance or clarification. I hope this helps and I look forward to hopefully having this in DYK. Thanks. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Therealscorp1an: Thank you very much for your detailed evaluation and feedback. I have no objections to the ALT0 hook being used on the Main Page. Could you please let me know when I should make the suggested changes? As you noted, I am still in the process of citing some of the information in the tables. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 02:12, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AndrewPeterT: As soon as possible. The quicker these are addressed, the quicker we can place it on DYK. - Therealscorp1an (talk) 04:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All suggested spelling and grammar corrections have been made. I am prioritizing citing sources for the great-grandchildren of Christian IX and Louise. AndrewPeterT (talk) (contribs) 04:51, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AndrewPeterT: Great job. There's one other thing I would change. In the caption of the photo that will be used for the hook, I would change "Christian IX with various children and grandchildren at Fredensborg Palace." to "1886 portrait of Christian IX and his family by Laurits Tuxen." It's best the artist is probably credited. Also, in the actual article, in order to aleviate some of the WP:WHITESPACE, I would remove the two protraits of Christian IX and Louise in the background section as there are paintings of them given in the table below so. Once you're done sourcing the table information, please let me know! - Therealscorp1an (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b "Queen Louise". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
  2. ^ "The History of Denmark 1875-1900". Amalienborg Palace. Retrieved March 17, 2024.
  3. ^ "Christian IX". Royal Palaces. National Museum of Denmark. Retrieved March 17, 2024.

Articles created/expanded on March 19[edit]

Centurion C-RAM

C-RAM test firing at night
C-RAM test firing at night
    • Reviewed: [[]]
Created by Geardona (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

(Ping me)  On hold for merge discussion. Geardona (talk to me?) 04:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I've watchlisted the article's talk page and will review this when it's kept.--Launchballer 10:26, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on March 24[edit]

2024 opening of regular sessions of the National Congress of Argentina

Javier Milei giving a speech
Javier Milei giving a speech
Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 116 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Cambalachero (talk) 15:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - The link is too long, even if it contains the article title; I recommend splitting it and only bolding "2024 opening of regular sessions" and linking separately to the National Congress of Argentina. An ALT hook that mentions why the opening was held later might also be good to have.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Hook is interesting and the article is in good shape. I'll leave it up to the nominator or promoter to change the hooks in the way I suggested, but won't fuss over it. Added clarification tags where needed. SounderBruce 04:51, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]

Enchylium limosum

Enchylium limosum
Enchylium limosum
Created by Xkalponik (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

X (talk) 21:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'll review this. Article length and eligibility checks out, and is generally quite presentable. I see no evidence of copyvio. Out of all of these, I think ALT2 is the best; but I don't really see evidence that it "loves lime" beyond its name, and the article is a bit vague about what the "loving" portion of "lime-loving" means. Unfortunately, I think the other two hooks are lengthy and not very interesting to a non-specialist audience. Can you find any sources about why it's a lime-loving lichen? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comments:
@Generalissima, Hey thanks for reviewing the article. The term "lime-loving" in the common name "Lime-loving Tarpaper Lichen" refers to the preference of Enchylium limosum for habitats with alkaline or calcareous substrates. Limestone, which contains calcium carbonate, is commonly referred to as "lime," hence the name. Lichens like Enchylium limosum thrive in environments where calcium-rich minerals are present, such as limestone or dolomitic rocks. This particular fact is mentioned throughout the sources that are used in the article. Common names given to species are pretty much self-explanatory in most cases, including this one. These sources, although not particularly about the article's subject, will give an idea of why such species of the genera are called "lime-loving." 1, [2].
Sources that mention Enchylium limosum's calcareious habitat and common name are abundant and used throughout the article hence I felt it's redundant to mention them here.
I hope I was able to provide some ideas. Let me know if you have other questions/suggestions. Regards.
Edit: If you feel necessary, I can try to add more information explaining/shedding some background behind its common name in the etymology/taxonomy section. X (talk) 08:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COSMOS field

The COSMOS field, taken by the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope
The COSMOS field, taken by the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page. ᵀʰᵃᵗ ᵒⁿᵉ ᵈᵘᵈᵉ ʷʰᵒ ᵐᵃᵈᵉ ᵃˡˡ ᵗʰᵉ ˢᵖᵃᶜᵉ ᵃʳᵗᶦᶜˡᵉˢ (talk) 16:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment: I'm not sure if this is the right way to add a comment, but the information given above is largely incorrect. The COSMOS field is not one of the deepest images ever taken of the universe and it is definitely not the deepest Hubble image ever taken either. It is also not really accurate to say that it's one of the largest surveys of the universe ever. The esahubble.org page cited as the source doesn't make these claims either. It is one of the largest (maybe the largest?) contiguous fields ever mapped with Hubble, but that is different from the statements made here. Aldebarium (talk) 23:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    • Still, most of the items listed above are incorrect. It is definitely not correct to state that this is one of the deepest images ever taken (either by Hubble, or more generally). There are many Hubble images that go deeper than this one. It is the largest contiguous survey field ever observed by Hubble, but that’s different from stating that it was one of the largest surveys of the universe ever. Partly this depends on what you mean by “largest”: if referring to angular area covered, other surveys like SDSS are vastly larger. Aldebarium (talk) 15:03, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 13:31, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Thank you for this fascinating article. It has two issues, plus I think we still need final confirmation that the hooks are all true:

  • Two of the article's paragraphs contain no citations. They should at least have one citation at the end of each.
  • This bit is copyright violation (plagiarism). You need to either rephrase it completely and cite it, or put it unchanged in quotation marks and cite it: Is the Hubble Space Telescope's largest ever contiguous survey of the Universe and was carried out by an international team of 70 astronomers on July 1, 2013. In making the COSMOS survey, Hubble photographed 575 adjacent and slightly overlapping views of the universe using its Advanced Camera for Surveys' (ACS) Wide Field Camera. It took nearly 1,000 hours of observations. The distances to the galaxies were determined from their redshifts, using ESO's Very Large Telescope, the Subaru and CFHT telescopes in Hawaii and the Magellan
  • Please do the same with this one: covers a 2 square degree equatorial field, with spectroscopy and X-ray to radio imaging. Over 2 million galaxies are detected, spanning 75% of the age of the Universe.
  • Aldebarium Please would you kindly confirm that the above hooks are now all true?

When the above issues are resolved, This nomination could be passed.

Positive notes
  • I have copyedited the article, but that does not affect DYK.
  • According to DYK check, the article was created on 25 March. According to the article history, it was nominated n the same day (so no problem with timing).
  • Normally, an image like the one above would fail DYK assessment, because a glance at the thumbnail version says that it is just a black square. However in this case, I believe the public will understand that you have to click on it because it is obviously a night sky with stars in it. Storye book (talk) 14:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • All issues have been fixed as of now. MemeGod ._. (talk) 12:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The listed information appears correct now, except for the final point about “identified galaxies". I don’t think that the statement “over 200,000 identified galaxies” is really meaningful. What does it mean for a galaxy to be “identified”? This isn’t specified. The online catalogs contain measured photometry (magnitudes) and other information for a larger number than this, and according to the COSMOS web page at Caltech the data provide morphological information for over 2 million galaxies. The number of 200,000 seems to be taken from the COSMOS field article, and the citation for this fact in that article links to a paper by Darvish et al., but I’m not sure where exactly in that article the number 200,000 appears (if at all). In the paper (section 2) they say that their analysis used a sample of about 40,000 galaxies with accurate photometric redshifts, which is a small fraction of the total galaxy count in COSMOS. In any case, I don’t think that the concept of “identified galaxies” is really useful or meaningful unless a more specific definition is given and citation is found to back up this number. If that line is removed, the remaining information all looks ok. Aldebarium (talk) 16:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, Aldebarium and MemeGod27. I understand that the hooks are now acceptable, but I see that the article still has the contested phrase “over 200,000 identified galaxies” as a caption to the picture. Please could we have that removed, so that I can give the green tick? Thanks. Storye book (talk) 17:04, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done, I just replaced it with "thousands of galaxies". Thanks :P MemeGod ._. (talk) 17:52, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, MemeGod27 for those corrections. However, now that those issues have gone, some other problems have become more visible:
* The paragraph beginning, "The area, corresponding" has no citation at the end. Please either provide a citation, or remove the uncited sentence.
* Earwig now finds two sections which must be rephrased to avoid copyvio: "Hubble Space Telescope has a narrow field of view, which is only a fraction of the angular diameter of the Moon.", and "covers two square degrees of sky. By comparison, the Earth's Moon is one-half degree across. The field is being imaged by most major space-based and ground-based telescopes".
* Note that the technique of copying and pasting material into an article, then trying to rephrase it in situ, just doesn't work. You always end up with sections of it which are unchanged. The best way is to read the source, then put it out of sight, and write the information in your own words into the article. If you tell yourself that you can write it more clearly and concisely, that usually works. Only proper names (words beginning with capitals) and short, common phrases, can be safely transferred into the article. If you really cannot rephrase a section, put it in quotation marks, with the citation at the end. Storye book (talk) 09:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done , I reworded the FOV part but just phrased the second one you pointed out, as there is no way I can reword it but keep the same integrity (and the source is cited and mentioned). I also added the citation that you mentioned. Thanks Storye book! :D MemeGod ._. (talk) 15:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you, MemeGod27 for rephrasing the first citation mentioned above. You had not dealt with the missing citation at the end of the para mentioned above, so I removed the uncited bit to the talk page. It can stay safely there until you can find a citation. Re the second citation: if you don't put it in quotation marks, it is still copyright violation even if you have added a citation. You still need to add quotation marks, because the phrasing itself is copyrighted. I have added the quotation marks for you, because we cannot just leave copyvio in the article. The article is now cleaned up, and can go forward.
  • Good to go, with ALT 0, 1 or 2, and the picture. Note to promoter: I believe that the readers will understand that a sky-at-night picture will look black as a thumbnail, but will be well worth clicking on, to see the stars. However, that is ultimately a matter for the promoter to decide. Storye book (talk) 17:06, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just one more comment- after reading through the COSMOS field article, I have to say that it is very poorly written, unclear and confusing in many aspects of its content, and contains some errors (such as the implication that the entire field was imaged in 1 day, which I will fix now). It would benefit from a complete rewrite. (not that I have time to do this, but the article is really not in good condition at present.) Aldebarium (talk) 18:09, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • . Thank you, Aldebarium. I have changed the green ticks to a "no", for the present.
  • Note to admin: Please give this nomination a set period of time for the article to have a full rewrite, before closing it down, in the hope that someone might re-write the article. Can you give it a month? Storye book (talk) 09:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hal Malchow

  • ... that Hal Malchow briefly worked as a securities lawyer, but left because writing contracts defending against fraud was more boring than scheming them? Source: Issenberg, Sasha (2013). The Victory Lab: The Secret Science of Winning Campaigns. ISBN 9780307954800. p. 2: "except for a brief detour into securities law that ended when he realized that writing the contracts to guard against complex financial schemes was less fun than trying to hatch them."
    • ALT1: ... that Hal Malchow was detained in a Lima, Peru, airport because he was accused of smuggling cocaine in his arm cast? Source: "Three Americans held in Peru pending drug investigation outcome". The Greenville News. Vol. 113, no. 25. AP News. January 25, 1987. p. 3A.
    • Reviewed:
Created by SWinxy (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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SWinxy (talk) 23:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Will be reviewing this one... el.ziade (talkallam) 11:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did some more searching for some minor biographical facts and came back with a news clipping saying that was too good to pass up. Added as an alt. SWinxy (talk) 05:35, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article presents a comprehensive overview of Malchow's life, career, and contributions to political consulting, and meets the newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, and copyvio-free criteria. Offline sources were accepted in good faith. he article and hook meet all the required criteria for inclusion in the DYK section of Wikipedia, with no subjective issues identified. el.ziade (talkallam) 09:41, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • unpromoted per Special:Diff/1219998585 RoySmith (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Striking ALT1 due to WP:BLP issues; original hook struck because "scheming them" is confusing given the context: what does scheming a contract even mean? Please propose a new hook. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I strongly disagree with you that ALT1 is "negative" and a BLP issue. The wording is clear that he was accused, not convicted, of smuggling cocaine. It plainly does not violate BLP because it's sourced to the Associated Press, considered generally reliable at WP:RSP. Being accused of smuggling narcotics in an arm cast is unusual, quirky, absurd. ALT1 can be modified slightly to say that Malchow "was once detained" to lessen a perception that crime is Malchow's MO. But I find it odd to read it this way. SWinxy (talk) 18:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • SWinxy, it isn't just me: the consensus I'm seeing in the WT:DYK thread is that ALT1 is both negative and a BLP issue. "Accused" and "detained" both sound bad, and to add "once" would simply be read by most people that it happened in the past, not that it happened to him only once in his life: either way, he's painted as a drug smuggler on Wikipedia's front page. I strongly advise you to come up with an ALT2 that features a different set of facts, since ALT1—though you clearly like it—isn't going to be accepted at DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:49, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • The two concurring with you made their replies before I addressed your claim of it being a BLP issue. It's unfair to mark "consensus!" at the time right before I made my rebuttal to allow my point to be considered, and without responding directly to the rebuttal of the argument you made. I liked it and think it's interesting, yeah. el.ziade seemed to think so too in approving it, PrimalMustelid promoted it, and RoySmith said that I don't see anything in particular that's a problem here in opening it up for discussion. Pinging Schwede66 for completion. Sorry for dragging this out, but I just think it's a fine premise for a hook. Could it be reworded in a way that retains it? SWinxy (talk) 15:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Since I got pinged here, I'll just note that when I raised my original query at WT:DYK, I only had a vague feeling that this might be a problem, but BlueMoonset's response clarified the issue in my mind and I agree with him that ALT1 is unsuitable. RoySmith (talk) 16:06, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Needs ALT2. Schwede66 16:38, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on March 30[edit]

Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki

Improved to Good Article status by An anonymous username, not my real name (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

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Anonymous 16:48, 31 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - issue
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, and is well-sourced, but the source used here has an issue (see Buxton comments below). Possibly hook could be improved (see comment below), a really interesting article John Cummings (talk) 19:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I changed the review status thanks to Bruxton for flagging the issues. John Cummings (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding this nomination. It is a BLP so I am cautious about promoting a hook that seems to imply guilt before conviction. Also the bit in the hook about him being an associate professor... it appears in the lead uncited. In the body it just says "He began teaching at Kyoto's Ritsumeikan" - since it is a hook fact it should be stated in the body directly followed by a citation. The hook is 197 characters so it is 3 under the limit, but also gives too much info. (I also made this reply at DYK). I think we need a new hook that because this is a BLP. Bruxton (talk) 19:16, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

UT Rio Grande Valley Vaqueros football

Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 157 past nominations.

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BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:28, 6 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is all sourced and has no copyright issues. Regarding the hook, I suggest making the change in the article so that readers can see it and understand when it appears in the DYK. Other than that, the hook is good to go. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:04, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 31[edit]

Exdeath

Moved to mainspace by Kung Fu Man (talk). Nominated by DetriaSkies (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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detriaskies 22:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new but not long, thanks to the presence of that maintenance template demanding a section expansion and a lede merely consisting of an opening sentence. It has an image licensed for fair use but lacks a suitable caption, as well as a few questionable sources, such as RPGamer (cite 14). Furthermore, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns (assuming good faith on non-English language sources) and the hook is cited and is fine. Nominator is exempted from doing a QPQ, but they should be credited on this DYK as the "nominator" as opposed to mainspace mover, who is actually User:Kung Fu Man (diff). Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:52, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't appear to be an expand template on this any more. Lede would still deserve {{lead too short}}, but updating icon.--Launchballer 18:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kung Fu Man: Can there be some movement on this please?--Launchballer 16:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DetriaSkies: - didn't ping properly.--Launchballer 16:07, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and expanded the lead section with information pertaining to his Reception. I hope this is alright since I'm not too closely involved with the Exdeath article, but I hope it helps in any case. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:21, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, passing back to Nineteen Ninety-Four guy. I do notice he mentions RPGamer being questionable and that's still in the article.--Launchballer 07:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I was actually called out by Kung Fu Man in my talk for calling that source unreliable (and deservedly so): apparently, WP:VG/S says otherwise. So, mea culpa. Granted, the claim about the character receiving a "mixed reception" needs a reliable, third party source before I can pass this. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 08:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I gave it a go, but did not find any sources mentioning any mixed reception. Any commentary on the character I did find was hardly mixed. Coverage of this character seems to be mainly positive, the only criticism calling him a cliched villain. (Retro Gamer issue saying this.) Kung Fu Man is better versed in this subject than I am, they may know of a source for this that I missed. Also I already mentioned this on Nineteen Ninety-Four Guy's talk page, but apologies for misattributing myself as the article author. If I knew where to discuss the nomination form, I would request the field to be moved closer to the actual article fields, as it just seems like a poor design choice to have the article credit not with the status field. detriaskies 23:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Getting rid of that topic sentence works also; it's synthesis anyway. Let's see if Kung Fu Man concurs. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:22, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Generally with character articles it's the norm to include a starting line explaining a summary of the reception a character received be it positive, negative, or mixed. While there is some praise, sources [11] and [12] (particularly 12) are more critical of the character, and even more positive sources also voice criticism. This is similar wording I've used in many other articles without any issue of synthesis.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 05:42, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid this only proves that it does badly need an RS; using other articles to justify an edit not in conformity with WP's guidelines is bad practice. Either back that up with a source or get rid of it. Your call. Otherwise, my nom rejection stands. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 09:18, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I remove it, when I get to GAN I'll just have the reviewer requesting such a statement be present, I've written enough of these to expect that. Removing it to appease you then add it back later to appease the majority defeats the point, no offense meant. So if it fails DYK, it does.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like there is a much larger issue at hand if one editor is calling it synthesis while another says GAN reviewers request it. detriaskies 16:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note, as someone who write a lot of reception sections on various media. I think we have to remember what "mixed" means. It does not mean "medium". It means "it varied". So, it's not really that tall of a hurdle to warrant its use. Any time you have some both positive and negative sentiments you can pretty much rightfully include it. And honestly, with the way many editor tend to POV-push positive sentiments for things they like (or the opposite for things they dislike) I think its honestly commendable that a more neutral route was taken here. Unless there's actually good-faith confusion on whether or not there is both positive and negative sentiments present in the section, I don't believe its WP:OR. Sergecross73 msg me 17:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your input. I'm not convinced, however, so I shall update the icon in light of these developments. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 17:34, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 1[edit]

Sonja van den Ende

Created by Piotrus (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 504 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 22:51, 4 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A good, thorough, and necessary article. Thank you. Good to go.

  • Earwig finds only a quotation, which is properly quoted in the article. So there is no copyvio. Storye book (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Storye book and Piotrus: this definitely feels like it fails WP:DYKHOOKBLP, right? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that In March 2022 Sonja van den Ende was the only Dutch journalist to report from the Russian-occupied Donbas on the war in Ukraine? (all sources in Dutch, so taken AGF).

@AirshipJungleman29 and Storye book: Fair point. But that is IMHO very boring. How about a balanced hook - ALT2 below: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:17, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: ... that Dutch activist and journalist Sonja van den Ende has been criticized by the Western media but praised by Russian and Chinese outlets?
ALT2 would work. Storye book (talk) 08:11, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]

Rodolfo Pallucchini

Created by Brudelman (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Brudelman (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Note: the nominator is currently blocked from new mainspace or category creations over concerns regarding competency; however, as they are not fully blocked I am not sure if this will affect the nomination or not. This is just something to keep in mind. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:52, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't blocked at the time, and can still edit the page, so should be fine. I'm a bit irked by the fact that none of the accessdates are recent, which implies that they've been copied from somewhere.--Launchballer 09:47, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Looking at their talk page, it appears they have already received a warning for copyright violations. For what it's worth, while Earwigs gave a largely okay score, there are at least two sentences that are very close matches with another source, but I don't know if they're acceptable given they're relatively minor, or this still counts as a copyvio or close paraphrasing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that's severe enough to warrant quick-failing/WP:G12ing, but something must be done about it. Pinging Brudelman for immediate attention.--Launchballer 10:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I merely copied and pasted the text for the Rodolfo Pallucchini article from its Italian language counterpart, its original sole article. Also, @Narutolovehinata5 I'm curious, what are access dates? Why are you irked that they aren't recent? Thanks.Brudelman (talk) 12:02, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Access dates are the date the reference was accessed, web pages sometimes change and they're useful for establishing which version is being cited. My beef is that older references are usually an indicator of "this has existed elsewhere", which could mean this is a split, which could affect eligibility per WP:DYKLEN. Translations are fine though, per WP:DYKNEW.--Launchballer 12:41, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If it was based on the Italian article, then the translation must be attributed, either by using {{Translated|it|Rodolfo Pallucchini}} in the talk page, or by explicitly saying so in the edit summary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:38, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This has now been done. Full review needed.--Launchballer 02:05, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Might as well give this a preliminary review while I'm here. I think the main elephant in the room is that the current hook isn't actually all that hooky. It doesn't really make it clear why him being a director is such a big deal, nor would it catch much attention. There are also multiple uncited statements in the article, such as several entries in the Administrative positions section (which might work better in prose rather than as a list). The last sentence of the Career section is unreferenced, and is also missing a space before it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:11, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

World Central Kitchen drone strikes

Created by Makeandtoss (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 37 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Makeandtoss (talk) 13:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

My objection is now outdated. Events and sources are moving. starship.paint (RUN) 02:44, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.


  • Objection - the content in the hook three consecutive missiles fired by an Israeli drone cannot be presented in Wikivoice using this Haaretz source, which said that the information comes from Israeli defense sources. Haaretz has not independently reported the information (without attribution). starship.paint (RUN) 00:05, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starship.paint: The same material has been covered in RS including NYT, Al Jazeera, BBC, and Bellingcat; and in visual investigations not just reporting articles. All RS have provided the same information about three missiles being shot. I don't see why information from RS requires attribution, especially given that all these RS agree on the same exact point. Makeandtoss (talk) 08:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They agree on the same point, but they don’t seem to have independently verified it. Perhaps something like “three separate vehicles” will be closer to having verified coverage? FortunateSons (talk) 09:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@FortunateSons: They did verify it themselves -i.e independently- using visual data, please read the Bellingcat, AJ and BBC investigations. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source article links please. starship.paint (RUN) 10:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Makeandtoss: - you are assuming too much of the sources. (1) Bellingcat does not say three consecutive strikes, they simply say Israeli airstrike, Bellingcat cannot confirm that it was missiles or that they were even fired by a drone: Although not possible to be certain without fragments of the munition itself, the WCK vehicles bear the hallmarks of a precision strike by inert or low-yield missiles ... In order to successfully accomplish a laser guided strike it is necessary for a platform, such as a drone, to “illuminate” the target with a laser while the missile is launched. (2) BBC writes that the evidence suggests there was more than one strike, but this is not confirmation, BBC's experts also do not confirm that it was a drone strike: Chris Cobb-Smith, a former British Army officer and ex-UN weapons inspector, said the attack was probably the result of drone-launched Spike missiles ... Justin Crump, a former British Army officer who runs Sibylline - a risk intelligence company - agreed. He says the attack "was likely drone-launched and targeted". He added the strike had probably been caused by a missile, rather than a bomb or mortar. (3) Al Jazeera goes the furthest, their article text says The shelling targeted three vehicles belonging to WCK, one at a time, but if you read the article text, there is no mention of drone missiles, instead they say: Analysis of images of the second and third targeted vehicles showed signs of a projectile entering from the top and exiting through the bottom, suggesting that the cars were targeted from the air. Now, Al Jazeera's image does mention "drone strikes" and missiles, but I find it peculiar that they didn't mention (or even attempt to explain) it in the article text. The sources are simply weaker than you portray them to be. None of them confirm, all of them are simply suggesting / probably / likely etc. starship.paint (RUN) 11:55, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can I suggest some edits to the hook to make it clearer what happened? I'd suggest something like Humanitarian and aid organizations suspended their operations in the Gaza Strip after seven World Central Kitchen aid workers were killed when their marked cars on a preapproved route were bombed by Israeli drones. I think its really important to make clear they were in marked cars, they were also on a route approved by the Israeli military. Makeandtoss what do you think? Also have any additional sources been published that would resolve the dissagreement above? If not maybe a third party could be involved to help resolve if the sourcing meets Wikipedia's rules. John Cummings (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that this is also nominated at ITN. It can only reach the main page through one of the possible venues. At this point, there isn't consensus to post to ITN, but that can change. Schwede66 02:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Starship.paint: @John Cummings: Thanks for commenting. Starship.paint, building on our discussion on the talk page, I think we can both agree to this ALT1 version: ... that the attack on World Central Kitchen convoy in the Gaza Strip, which killed seven aid workers, was likely a result of three consecutive missiles fired by an Israeli drone? Makeandtoss (talk) 14:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I can add anything more than what starship.paint and John Cummings have said. Any hook we run on this topic should be widely supported across a cross section of media, and be independently verified. Otherwise its likely to be challenged at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. We need a hook that won't get pulled. John made some good suggestions.4meter4 (talk) 02:29, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Makeandtoss, 4meter4, John Cummings, and Narutolovehinata5: I've hatted my objection above due to recent events: the IDF's admission, which I believe supports this hook: starship.paint (RUN) 02:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)@FortunateSons: - forgot to ping. starship.paint (RUN) 02:58, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Starship.paint: Thanks for the ping, I agree that the objection is now out of date. FortunateSons (talk) 07:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that the Israel Defense Forces have accepted responsibility for killing seven World Central Kitchen aid workers in targeted drone strikes that destroyed the aid workers' cars, one by one? Source 1: Associated Press Source 2: CBS News Source 3: BBC News starship.paint (RUN) 02:54, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would be ok with this as long as there are no objections to featuring violent content at DYK. There has been some pushback of late against featuring potentially disturbing hooks. That said, this hook appears to have wide support in media, and is so widely reported I don’t think an argument for censoring would be successful.4meter4 (talk) 02:59, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, our main page constantly features potentially disturbing content, so I don't see why this can't be, either. Right now, our ITN section: A severe earthquake strikes near Hualien City, Taiwan ... In Syria, an Israeli airstrike kills 16 people at the Iranian consulate in Damascus, including brigadier general Mohammad Reza Zahedi ... A bus falls from a bridge in Limpopo, South Africa, killing 45 people ... The Francis Scott Key Bridge in the U.S. city of Baltimore collapses after being hit by a container ship. starship.paint (RUN) 06:08, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DYK and ITN have different goals. In addition, the issues with IP hooks have never really been about violence but rather tone and POV. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:23, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One might consider, is the problem Wikipedia's "tone and POV", or does the event inherently make one side look bad? I'd say the answer is provided by the BBC: There are also moments, like the last few days in the Middle East, when events leave belligerents and their allies at a crossroads with big decisions to make ... The killing of foreign aid workers in Gaza might finally exhaust the considerable patience of Israel's allies, led by the United States. and Reuters: the killing of a group of aid workers by an Israeli air strike summed up both the dire humanitarian crisis and the lack of a clear way out of a conflict that is leaving Israel increasingly isolated. The attack on Monday night that killed seven staff of the World Central Kitchen (WCK) aid group, including six foreigners, has angered even some of Israel's closest allies, adding to growing pressure for an end to the fighting. starship.paint (RUN) 07:09, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starship.paint: ALT2 doesn't really sound interesting, but more like a news headline; do you have any other alternatives? Makeandtoss (talk) 10:15, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Makeandtoss I don't think it's going to be possible to run a different kind of hook without being accused of trivializing the event. This would probably pull the hook into Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. Optics for an event like this are going to force us to keep the main event front and center in the hook. As such I don't see there being any meaningfully different hooks passing DYK review. Alt2 is probably our best option.4meter4 (talk) 12:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An admission to killing seven aid workers in targeted strikes ... not interesting?! It is no less interesting than the originally proposed hook, Makeandtoss. starship.paint (RUN) 12:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starship.paint: @4meter4: If there is support for ALT2 then I would go for it. Makeandtoss (talk) 12:55, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approving hook ALT2 per WP:CONSENSUS opinion. Article appears to be compliant with all DYK review criteria (newness, length, inline citations, NPOV, etc.) Hook fact is widely supported and independently verified in many sources. Promoter will need to check whether this gets featured at ITN. If it does, we can't feature it at DYK because it will have already been on the main page.4meter4 (talk) 13:02, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not so fast. This article has been moved twice in the last 24 hours. It should probably stabilise first.--Launchballer 13:06, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet, the Israeli explanation of events hasn't been fully added to the article. I didn't have time to do it yesterday. But, I can probably add it now. starship.paint (RUN) 13:11, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is stable and was moved without consensus. As for the Israeli explanation of events, its already in the article, the expansion of it doesn't affect moving forward with the DYK anyway. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:14, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Makeandtoss Page moves whether with or without consensus are a clear sign of instability. I would suggest not getting in a back and forth over issues like this, because if you argue its only likely to tank the DYK approval. @Launchballer I hear you, but from a DYK reviewer standpoint this is ready to go. There's nothing more on our checklist for the reviewer to do, and the nominee has done everything they need to do. Obviously, the promoter will need to evaluate stability because it is a current event. Due to the backlog there will be a natural signigicant delay anyway before this gets put into prep. I think it best that we leave it to the promoter to determine when its stable enough to move it into the queue. That's not something we need to worry about from the DYK evaluator standpoint. We can trust in the promoting admin to evaluate that. If it hangs out in the approved hook area for a while everything should be fine.4meter4 (talk) 13:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: There is no back and forth here; I reverted the latest page move because it was undiscussed and because multiple editors on the talk page agreed as well. The article is stable but one or two more days of waiting will not hurt as you said. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:31, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, Makeandtoss, the article's Israeli explanation is incomplete. This will become apparent when I add the content (I am writing it right now). starship.paint (RUN) 13:21, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. starship.paint (RUN) 13:34, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Both of you need to quit or I will have to pull the DYK tick. The article has had some instability issues as is typical of a current event. The article is likely to be edited heavily as new information is released. Any promoting admin will need to monitor the stability of the article before promoting. This means that if there are content disputes, edit wars, page moves, etc. the article will have to remain in the approved section until all that settles. I would suggest a minimum of two weeks of calm (ie no content reversions in the article's editing history, no arguments on the talk page, no page moves) before the article is featured at DYK. Best.4meter4 (talk) 13:46, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given the concerns about stability above and the other issues, it probably wouldn't be safe to mark this as approved until at least a couple of weeks from now. Once the article has stabilized, it can probably be given a fresh look. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5 Have your concerns been assuaged?--Launchballer 12:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the article has stabilized then, yes, this is ready for a fresh review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:15, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer and Narutolovehinata5 currently tagged for a formal title change discussion. Stability is therefore still an issue. I don't think this needs a formal re-review. I already did a competent review. Someone just needs to check for stability and once that has been established, Alt2 can be ticked.4meter4 (talk) 13:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]

Dick Harris (center)

Created by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 160 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:59, 12 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Newly written, long enough, cited throughout. The ironically titled "Professional career" section details the four times that he was drafted, and yet didn't play professionally. I think I like ALT1 the best. ALT0 is a bit clunky. ALT2 is fine. QPQs are pending. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pam Taylor

"The Unknown Airman", Plymouth Hoe
"The Unknown Airman", Plymouth Hoe
Created by AtticTapestry (talk). Nominated by Bogger (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 24 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Bogger (talk) 10:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Bogger and AtticTapestry: Needs more RS, the article has passing mentions and blog type sites as RS and they discuss the work not the person. Three sentences of the article are related to the person and they are supported with what looks like non-rs. I could not find much either...
  1. Here is a source
  2. Another source
  3. Another source
These are only passing mentions which are more about the works not the person. I wonder if this article should be redirected to the artwork with the three sentences merged. Bruxton (talk) 21:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • added those sources, including to hook -Bogger (talk) 11:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Two QPQs are done, Earwig is 15% the hook is not very interesting but it is confirmed and in the article. Article is neutral and uses the correct inline citations. The UK has FOP for 3D so the image is ok. But again, this is really not an article about the artist so I am asking for another reviewer instead of rejecting the nomination. Bruxton (talk) 14:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

second opinion and full review needed. Bruxton (talk) 14:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bogger and AtticTapestry: I'm afraid this article needs work. If I saw that Works section outside of DYK, I'd be putting bullet points on it on sight, and I'm not even going to bother doing a character count on the rest, it's way under. Please convert that section into prose per MOS:EMBED.--Launchballer 13:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gambling in Georgia

  • ... that it will soon be illegal for government employees in Georgia to gamble? Source: "A new law, passed by parliament on December 22, forbids gambling for several classes of people, including those receiving government assistance, government workers, and anyone under 25." eurasianet
    • Reviewed:
Created by Casablanca Rock (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Casablanca 🪨(T) 16:56, 4 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I moved a citation to support the hook in the article - it was needed end of sentence. Lightburst (talk) 22:15, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus and Casablanca Rock: Another issue is the source for the hook says, "In response to the criticism, the implementation of the law was postponed from January 1 to March 1." One of our rules is that the hook must have facts that are not likely to change WP:DYKHOOK. Was the law implemented on March 1? If so this article and hook will not be accurate. Also per WP:DYKCOMPLETE this article needs to be developed. Lightburst (talk) 22:25, 9 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lightburst, I will improve the sections as you've stated. The citation I had there was the best English language citation I could find, but there are more accurate Georgian language sources that explain more about the implementation of the law. It was delayed until June 1. The Georgian government released an update to the 2005 gambling law on the website of the legal corpus specifying the law going into effect on June 1. Sorry that this is a bit confusing, that previous article that has a lot of information about the law in English did not have the update of the law being delayed in implementation until June 1 instead of March 1. Please let me know if that source isn't good and I can try to find something else. There is an English language source that does mention the delayed implementation, but it is from a gambling industry news site. I cited it in the article itself, but I was not sure if that would be helpful/good for DYK. Casablanca 🪨(T) 14:36, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 6[edit]

Jake Bates

  • ... that the first field goal of Jake Bates's life was the second-longest in professional football history? Source: a bunch for it being second-longest, e.g. [11] - this for it being the first field goal of his life ("So, the 64-yarder to seal the Panthers' 18-16 victory over the St. Louis Battlehawks — the kick was a boomer that split the uprights and might've been good for 70 — was really the first field goal he's ever made in a game.")
    • Reviewed:COSMOS field and Thorpe, North Yorkshire (both donated by user:Storye book to speed things up a bit, due to the current backlog. Note: the article creators and the nominator have no obligations regarding these reviews, and their names are not mentioned on the review templates. Storye book (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)).[reply]
    • Comment: (by BeanieFan11) I did not write the article; however, I had heard about the subject and this seemed like a pretty good hook, so I'm nominating it.
Created by DenverBounded (talk) and Danjobilly1 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 156 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:20, 6 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for this nomination - it is much appreciated that you have done this.

  • This nomination was late by one day, which I am prepared to overlook on this occasion.
  • I have copied some refs to sit next to the hook facts, in the article. This will not affect this DYK review,

Good to go. Storye book (talk) 16:12, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've unpromoted this per the concerns at WP:ERRORS (Special:Permalink/1219742233). It sounds like this needs more work to remove several types of ambiguity (American, professional, tied), so sending it back here where this can get hashed out without the clock ticking towards midnight. RoySmith (talk) 15:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Fram, Amakuru, Storye book, RoySmith, Bagumba, and Secretlondon: Since I've been requested to discuss this here instead of the errors page, your thoughts on any of the following?
  • BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT3 seems the safest, to me. Storye book (talk) 16:29, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Terms like "ever" and "life" seem redundant to me. His first, without qualification, is by definition his first ever or the first in his life. Should the fact that he tied the second longest be mentioned? And do we trust that a site like HawgBeat vetted NFL Europe for their records?—Bagumba (talk) 17:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • As for Rivals.com, I had used it as it was the first source to come up in my googling for the record. There's others, e.g. Detroit Free Press. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:13, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Good, less concern with Free Press (though journalism across the board is on the decline)—Bagumba (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on April 7[edit]

Classy 101

  • ... that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko initially composed "Classy 101" in Los Angeles and met the Colombian singer Feid by surprise there? Source: Antena3
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I'm not sure if this is an interesting fact, but at least I'm trying.
Improved to Good Article status by Pollosito (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Santi (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, and I do my QPQs oldest first so I wouldn't get to this any time soon; you should consider integrating where Miko and Feid are from into the hook for interest purposes. Los Angeles is pretty big, it's not unusual for two people to meet there.--Launchballer 21:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for at least suggesting something, I'm a little nervous. I have already incorporated the suggested information; If another source is required, I will put it in, but at the moment I won't because DYKs usually only have one. I don't know if it's appropriate, but I hope you can move forward and get the help you need to find the healing you so desperately seek. I wish you success in everything you do, because I see that you are very good. Santi (talk) 21:17, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I forgot one more thing. I put this hook because in the interview given as a source Miko reveals that she was a big fan of Feid, so with this I concluded that it could be interesting. Santi (talk) 21:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I would suggest something like ALT1: ... that the Puerto Rican singer Young Miko featured the Colombian singer Feid on her single "Classy 101" after a chance meeting in Los Angeles?--Launchballer 16:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New hooks are proposed with new ALTs, previously existing hooks should not be altered.--Launchballer 18:53, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK. I have no more suggestions. So, I'll wait for another review (the template you used points that out) to improve. Anyway, thanks for reviewing and clarifying the process. Santi (talk) 18:51, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. No neutrality issues found, no maintenance templates found, Earwig's nice and quiet. I should note for posterity that WP:UPSD whinges about refs #2 and #15 and that WP:RSP says WP:ROLLINGSTONE is generally reliable for culture matters. I proposed ALT1, so new reviewer needed to check it.--Launchballer 19:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Thanks for review. Don't worry so much about what the bot tells you. Sometimes it makes mistakes, as does the Copyvios plagiarism detector (look what happened in the GA review of You're Losing Me). The context matters more than certain literal rules. Santi (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 8[edit]

YouTube Rewind 2018: Everyone Controls Rewind

Improved to Good Article status by Davest3r08 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Davest3r08 >:3 (talk) 16:39, 8 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment I am not reviewing this but I believe that this nomination should be failed as a QPQ is not done at nomination time. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @OlifanofmrTennant: Ideally, a QPQ is done within the prescribed period of one week from the date of nomination, but WP:QPQ says it can be done before or after nomination as long as it's linked to its nom page and nominator has been duly informed that QPQ is needed upon a full review. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 05:07, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wouldn't use ALT1 for BLP reasons. Might I suggest a hook relating to it being the most disliked video of all time?--Launchballer 14:37, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that within a week of upload, YouTube Rewind 2018: Everyone Controls Rewind had become the platform's most-disliked video of all time?--Launchballer 15:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That works. Davest3r08 >:3 (talk) 16:25, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed.--Launchballer 16:32, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is the oldest fully unreviewed nom and I need a QPQ, so I'm reviewing. Long enough, new enough. No maintenance templates found, no neutrality concerns. Both QPQs done, you don't need three. WP:RSP whinges about WP:BUSINESSINSIDER, but given that it's only used for attributed opinion I'm happy with it, and Earwig whinges about [12], but that appears to be raw data so I have no complaints with it. I don't find ALT0 interesting, as companies place adverts all the time, and there's nothing in the hook that suggests the video's panegyry was unintentional; new reviewer needed to verify my ALT.--Launchballer 14:32, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]

Elvio Porcel de Peralta

  • ... that after receiving his record 97th ejection, footballer Elvio Porcel de Peralta went to the referee and punched him? Source: several, e.g. references 2, 5, 6, 7 and 8 in the article
    • ALT1: ... that footballer Elvio Porcel de Peralta received a record 97 ejections in his career? Source: same
    • ALT2: ... that after receiving his record 97th ejection, footballer Elvio Porcel de Peralta attacked the referee and knocked him to the ground with a punch? Source: same
    • ALT3: ... that footballer Elvio Porcel de Peralta was ejected a record 97 times during his career, and after the final one attacked the referee and received a lifetime ban? Source: same
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/pending
    • Comment: Seems there's several ways of wording this; open to any suggestions to make the hook as "hooky" as possible :)
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 162 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Long enough, new enough. All hooks short enough, interesting, and AGF sourced, although it seems slightly undue to say he was banned without saying he appealed it successfully, so I won't approve ALT3; my preference is ALT0. No maintenance templates found, no neutrality issues found, Earwig is rightfully quiet. Let's have a QPQ be