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As you may had noticed I've had to partially had to readjust the infobox for stations on the Sunshine Coast Line, as most stations on the NCL operate primarily TransLink services and the rail stations in SEQ fall under TransLink (South East Queensland) branding. Also to add, the NCL overall refers to the entire line between Brisbane and Cairns, so what I can suggest is that we can incorporate the NCL in the infobox (by adding the official colour (if there is one)) for all stations on the entire line between Brisbane and Gympie North (from Roma Street to Gympie), and at the same time incorporate this for the Main Line for stations between Brisbane and Rosewood. What are your thoughts? Rgds. Coastie43 (talk) 08:33, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Coomera81! It's great to have more people on board, especially Queenslanders (I am guessing from your user name that you have some connection with Coomera). If you need any help, please feel free to ask me on my talk page or by emailing me at kerry.raymond@wikimedia.org.au

One thing I noticed is that you replaced a template citation with a manual citation on Toowoomba railway station so I just thought I would try and explain what citation templates are all about. The Queensland Heritage Register template citation was:

{{cite QHR|15647|Toowoomba Railway Station, Honour Board and Railway Yard Structures|accessdate=15 July 2013}}

and you replaced it with:

[https://heritage-register.ehp.qld.gov.au/placeDetail.html?siteId=15647 Toowoomba Railway Station, Honour Board and Railway Yard Structures] Department of Environment & Heritage Protection

The benefits of using a citation template (where one exists) are:

1. primarily easier maintenance. Every time the Queensland Govt reorganises its departments (which is every few years in practice) or whenever a Qld Govt department reorganises their websites (often more frequently), it means that the URLs for resources like the Queensland Heritage Register change. There are easily 1000 or more articles with citations of the Queensland Heritage Register in Wikipedia. If we used manually added URLs in each QHR citation, that would mean over 1000 articles would be need to be edited to update the URL. Ugh! However, by using a template, we can construct the URL from the "common part" of the URL (the same for all heritage register citations) combined with the "unique" part (for the individual citation). The template citation in the article has the unique part as a parameter (the entry number 15647 in this case) and the template definition contains the "common part". So when the URLs change, all we have to do is update the new URL common part in the template and all the articles using the template citation will change automatically to use the new URLs. That's one edit needed instead of 1000+. So it's a lot easier to keep citations up-to-date instead of having 1000+ deadlinks until someone can get around to editing all of them (believe me, it's a tremendously tedious task!).
2. using a template is usually is a lot less work than doing it manually as many of the relevant parameters are automatically filled in correctly. For example, although the Dept of Environment & Heritage Protection is the body that implements the Heritage Register website, it is the Queensland Heritage Council that publishes the register. The citation knows this and acknowledges the QHC as the publisher not the Dept. This ensures a more consistent experience to the reader of Wikipedia articles if citations to the same group of sources have a consistent format.

Most templates come with some documentation Template:Cite QHR in this case. You can just type Template:Cite QHR into the Wikipedia search box to find the template documentation. That will help you construct a template citation. Or if you see a template and you don't know what it does, either simply leave it alone (or copy-and-paste it to wherever you need it) or if you think you really need to change it for some reason, ask someone (e.g. me or at the Wikipedia:Teahouse -- our help desk) or just write on the Talk page of the article what you want to do and someone will probably come along and help you out. Some templates (like the QHR) are relatively easy to use. Others have dozens of parameters and options and are not so easy to figure out, so don't feel shy about asking.

I've restored the QHR citation template in the Toowoomba railway station article, so don't worry about that. But as I know there are quite a number of heritage-listed railway stations in Queensland, I thought I'd better explain before you replaced them all! :-) Again, if I can be of help, just ask. Kerry (talk) 00:53, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you did change any others. I do a lot of work with articles relating to the Queensland Heritage Register so I have most of them on my watchlist so I am notified of any changes (which is how I knew about your change to the Toowoomba railway station). Also, generally you can reply to people on your own talk page (you don't need to come to mine). Most people (myself included) will "watch" (using the watchlist) your user page for a reply for at least a few days. That helps keep the conversation in one place not split across two (or more) user talk pages. (It's a bit of a silly system really but it's all we have for the moment -- a new system is being developed though but I don't know when it will be rolled-out). If you want to "watch" a page, just click the "star" at the top of the page and it will "colour in" to signify you are watching it. Click it again to stop watching it. You can view your Watchlist at the "Watchlist" link (very top right of screen). If you configure your preferences (also very top right of screen), you can have it set to watchlist every page you edit (which is often more convenient than manually clicking the star or ticking the box when you SAVE). Kerry (talk) 01:09, 28 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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I notice you are on a mission to improve railway station articles. Great work but can I make a suggestion. Following this discussion two years ago it was agreed that adding ", including train timetable information" after the external link to the Translink website would be useful for people searching for timetable information. It would be excellent if you could add that to any railway station articles in South East Queensland you edit in the future. - Shiftchange (talk) 00:37, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done at Corinda railway station as a testbed Coomera81 (talk) 01:32, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. I would add the key word to include would be timetable. The reason is that a few years ago when people could add feedback to article pages there was a recurring complaint from people unable to find timetable information. We, of course, cannot provide that. What we can do is to make it clear where that information is, so I would just ask if you could somehow include the word timetable it would be even more helpful. Some people may not know what Translink is. - Shiftchange (talk) 01:55, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Just a suggestion, but it might be helpful if you put something on your user page User:Coomera81 about yourself and your Wikipedia activities. In particular, it might be helpful to say a couple of sentences about your efforts to update infoboxes for the railway stations, what kinds of new information you are adding/updating, maybe mention the source material that you are using to do these updates, etc. That way people can see this is a concerted effort to bring a set of articles up to a better standard rather than just some edits to some random stations. Because of the way watchlists work, people don't always realise there is a concerted efforting happening as they just see isolated edits. Keep up the good work! Kerry (talk) 23:58, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I've looked at the track diagrams (dated Dec 2014) over at QR's website, and they refer to that Roma Street to Salisbury part of the line (see Sheet 16) as the Beenleigh line, instead of the Gold Coast. This is taking into consideration that the Beenleigh line was formerly known as the South Coast Line prior to the closure of the line beyond Beenleigh in 1964. Sheet 17 treats Salisbury to Varsity Lakes as the Salisbury-Robina line.

All the other trunk lines on the official QR diagrams are referred to their correct line names (Main Line for Ipswich/Rosewood/Springfield and North Coast for the Northern Lines ie Caboolture/Shorncliffe/Sunshine Coast, etc).

I've completed the copyedits on almost all station pages between Park Road and Beenleigh on the Beenleigh line and treated them as located on the Beenleigh line, taking into consideration the name given to the section between South Brisbane and Salisbury on Sheet 15 of the diagram. In my opinion I would strongly recommend referring to those inner-city stations past the Merivale (between South Brisbane and Park Road) as the Beenleigh line as opposed to the Gold Coast Line, and the stations south of Beenleigh as the Gold Coast line. What are your thoughts on labelling the located line of the Beenleigh/GC stations? Coastie43 (talk) 06:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Technically the line field should reflect the physical line, rather than the service, ie Main Line, North Coast etc rather than Ipswich & Rosewood, Sunshine Coast etc as the latter are already covered by the services field.

So based on this, it should be the Gold Coast line throughout, although really I am not that bothered either way. Presumably QR refer to the Salisbury-Robina line as such as this is where the line to NSW branches off, guess it comes down to is the Roma St - Sydney line the main line and the Gold Coast line the branch, or given the volume of traffic and layout of the junction, vice versa. Coomera81 (talk) 21:46, 21 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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As I happened to be in the Stanthorpe area last week, I took some photos of the Stanthorpe and The Summit railway stations for your new articles. I also took some photos of the Ballandean railway station and created a new article for it: Ballandean railway station. However, I am not a railway person, so I don't really know where to get info like distance from Brisbane Central and opening dates and other railway info, so I am hoping you might be able to help out with some of that kind of info. Thanks Kerry (talk) 02:18, 11 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well done, thanks for that. The distances are listed on the Southern railway line article. Those given for Stanthorpe and Wallangarra tie back to those given by Queensland Rail, so it appears reliable and as Ballandean is between these two, if not 100% accurate, is at least close.

I removed a few images from the Stanthorpe railway station article, it sought of looked like that classical head jammed between the lift doors, hope you don't mind. Maybe there is a better way? Coomera81 (talk) 02:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]