User talk:Gameovername

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Happy editing! davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:41, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An article you recently created, Corey Allen Jr, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. JavaHurricane 08:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Curbon7 was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

 The comment the reviewer left was:

Probably notable, but needs a rewrite to make it WP:NEUTRAL.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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Curbon7 (talk) 11:38, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Gameovername! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Curbon7 (talk) 11:38, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Corey Allen Jr. Thanks! davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 18:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I added a note to Draft talk:Corey Allen Jr.

Bottom line: Most basketball players at his level simply do not qualify for articles in Wikipedia, no matter how well-written and well-referenced they are.

Those that do qualify probably do so under a different criteria. For example, if he became a notable actor (see WP:NACTOR) or politician (WP:NPOLITICIAN), or - let's hope this doesn't happen - became infamous for something bad - then he might qualify under a different notability criteria. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 16:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It’s other players not even close to this level still in college with notability references from the same schools and sites . Just wondering where does this player differentiate from others Gameovername (talk) 17:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Like low-level professional players, elite college-level players' notability varies and is not a given. Each player has to be looked at individually under WP:Notability, WP:Notability (people), and any other relevant criteria. In general, players who received a lot of non-local, in-depth coverage that wasn't "in the sports section" and those who won major awards while in college, like the Heisman Trophy for college football in the United States, are much more likely to meet Wikipedia's notability requirements than someone who didn't. As a general rule if someone is past their college years and never "made it to the big leagues," they probably will not qualify under a sports-related notability criteria unless they "would have made it to the big leagues but for" some unusual circumstance. For example, an elite college athlete in his last year of eligibility who has "buzz" about being a first-round draft pick but who has a career-ending injury may already qualify for an article under WP:Notability or WP:Notability (people) due to in-depth/"significant" coverage from reliable sources that are not connected to the person (or to his school, or the NCAA, etc.). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:46, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, if you are confident in your understanding of Wikipedia's notability criteria and its deletion policy, consider nominating some of these weakly-referenced articles for deletion. I would recommend starting slow, only doing one at a time, and learning from what others say in the deletion discussion. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Davidwr was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Your efforts to improve Wikipedia, while not rewarded in this case, are appreciated. Please help improve existing basketball-related articles and create articles about NOTABLE topics related to the sport. You might consider joining WP:WikiProject Basketball if you have not done so already.

As a basketball player, Mr. Allen is not notable AT THIS TIME. Please do not bother updating this until or unless 1) it is obvious that this person meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines OR 2) it is obvious that he is expected to meet them very soon. In the second case, it will NOT be accepted until the person ACTUALLY meets them.

It is likely that this draft will be "soft-deleted" under the WP:G13 (stale drafts) rule in 6 months. IF and WHEN either condition 1 or condition 2 above is met, you may request that it be un-deleted at WP:Request for undeletion.

davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 18:16, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your efforts to help Wikipedia are very much appreciated. Unfortunately, this person simply does not qualify for an article right now and there is no evidence that he is "on a clear path" to qualifying in the very near future. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 18:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]