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Gerbilling[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article Gerbilling, please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Sorry for the generic template for newbies, but it was a newbie move you made.Asher196 (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It was not a newbie move. The source intact referenced my edit, the article was even titled "From Gere to Eternity" and specifically mentions Richard Gere.Hoponpop69 (talk) 17:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can we please not do that? Per WP:BLP1E it is unlikely to stay. Prodego talk 08:08, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why? This version is sourced, contains information that isn't in the shooting article, and resembles a biography of a living person rather than a stub.Hoponpop69 (talk) 08:12, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

JLL as atheist.[edit]

Hello. I think it's different when the AP says, flat out that Loughner is "an ardent atheist" and the Guardian says he is "a vigorous atheist". Neither reporter is quoting JLL's classmates. Isn't this why we rely on "reliable sources" -- at some point a statement becomes more of a fact and less of an opinion? If you see what I mean. --Kenatipo (talk) 19:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine, then just merge that info and source into the current sentence instead of having the article with two similar sentences back to back.Hoponpop69 (talk) 19:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Re Jared Loughner's mental state[edit]

As I indicated in the edit summary, I think the quote you inserted regarding Loughner's mental state may violate WP:BLP policy. Could you discuss this on the article talk page? I've started a section for this. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:32, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Jared Lee Loughner[edit]

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I've declined all your proposed speedy-deletions of record labels just now[edit]

I've already asked you not to re-add speedy tags once a speedy has already been declined. I'm not sure if you realize that your persistence with this might start to come across as disruptive. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 17:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hardcore punk's influence on other genres[edit]

I noticed your edit to Hardcore punk, specifically at the section "Influence on other genres." Removing referenced information, particularly an entire referenced section of a page, can be considered vandalism.

You commented that "it has nothing to do with anything relating to this article." If you truly feel that way, than discuss it at Talk:Hardcore punk. However, information about the fusion of hardcore punk subgenres and electronic music could not be in a better location. The section "Influence on other genres" appropriately contains information about the fusion of hardcore punk and a variety of other genres. Best wishes and happy editing :o) --♫ Chris-B-Koolio ♫ ... (Talk) 17:39, 30 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Be careful marking edits as minor[edit]

Hello, several of your edits on the hardcore page were marked as minor and had no rationale, but these edits were in fact removing bands from the page. According WP:VANDTYPES, marking non-minor edits as minor can be seen as gaming the system and a type of vandalism. I am sure that you meant no ill intent, but please refrain from doing this in the future. Thanks,--3family6 (talk) 21:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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AC/DC[edit]

It would be good to use a small amount of common sense with the discography section of the AC/DC article. The non-Australian release of High Voltage was not at any point issued or marketed as a compilation, and in terms of almost the entire world, it was unreleased material. I assume you are not saying that High Voltage and Iron Man 2 are essentially the same type of album. High Voltage was the first release outside Australia, and to omit it from a discography is misleading and confusing. Nobody's saying we should add Greatest Hits albums, which is what those small discography sections are supposed to omit. If anything, the two Australian albums should be set aside from the rest, with a proper international discography underneath - that would be the sensible route to take. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:33, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am using common sense, it doesn't matter if it wasn't available in most of the world, it is still old material being reissued, and not a studio album. If you look at other pages discography sections, like The Clash, you don't see the distinct U.S. and U.K. versions of their first album listed.Hoponpop69 (talk) 00:55, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in that case, obviously - the thing to do is to remove the local issues. I see you just edit war in lieu of a proper discussion. You are wrong, but it's just a case of "I'm right, and the page 'will reflect my views". Top editing. Bretonbanquet (talk) 20:06, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have started a discussion at Talk:AC/DC#High Voltage in discography section, where a consensus can be established. Your analogy of The Clash is not really the same issue, and your claim that "it doesn't matter if it wasn't available in most of the world" appears to be unsubstantiated. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will you stop edit-warring? I left the discography section at your preferred version to avoid an edit war which you were intent on continuing, and started a discussion. Then you start another edit war at the lead section, over the pettiest thing. Start a discussion if you don't like something, per the guidelines. Bretonbanquet (talk) 10:12, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I just don't see how that at all can be considered a controversial edit. It's simple common sense, to either list all the dates or none of them, as it is currently completely inconsistent. It seems like you are picking on me, and just trying to goad me by reverting non-controversial edits. I find it hard to believe that you honestly think the version listing two exact dates, and years for all the rest, better than a consistent version.Hoponpop69 (talk) 17:53, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So you keep doing it... read WP:3RR. You keep reverting to your version, away from the established version, despite the fact there's a discussion going on? Anyway, what are you even talking about - "all the rest"? Only three albums have a release date mentioned, and two have the full date - the first and the last. I'm picking on you? When you edit-war against me and others on a daily basis over trivial matters? I'll tell you what's non-controversial, and that's having a full release date for a couple of albums in the lead. I don't care one bit what you find hard to believe. You need to try engaging in discussion instead of reverting to whatever version you like best, not doing both. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:28, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please file a complaint. You have openly admitted that you refuse to discuss this issue, and it's clear from this page that I have tried quite hard to get you to discuss this properly. Take it to whatever admin page you want. Bretonbanquet (talk) 13:51, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the page is now protected. It would be worth us discussing the matter sensibly, either here or at the article's talk page, so that there's no recurring problem when the protection expires. Don't assume I'm harassing you - I have no issue with any of your edits apart from this one, and the High Voltage issue which was resolved in the proper manner. Bretonbanquet (talk) 15:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I will now be reporting you for harassing me.Hoponpop69 (talk) 19:49, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AC/DC[edit]

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A report has been made here [1] Mlpearc powwow 14:50, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ina Garten[edit]

Read the protecting admin's edit summary. Consensus was reached. And consensus does not mean a simple majority (although in this case, the majority does favour not including this info. Read the talk page. It's pretty clear. freshacconci talktalk 16:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 2011[edit]

Your recent edits seem to have the appearance of edit warring after a review of the reverts you have made on Ina Garten. Users are expected to collaborate and discuss with others and avoid editing disruptively.

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Misuse of the "minor edit" checkbox[edit]

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Led Zeppelin[edit]

Check this out before making incorrect statements. And please don't disrupt a good article. Thanks. Scieberking (talk) 22:22, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is four people agreeing enough for a consensus?Hoponpop69 (talk) 03:32, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fox News & Kardashian[edit]

Can you find no better source than Fox etc? Some quality broadsheet newspaper, for example? I realise that it is subjective but if you had something from, say, The Times then you would have a far better chance of the project retaining the statement. Personally, I do not give a fig about the Kardashians but the heat there is ridiculous in part because of the nature of the sources that are used. - Sitush (talk) 02:35, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added a source from the New York Times.Hoponpop69 (talk) 03:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have done it again, Look, please read WP:BLP and stop adding stuff that is sourced to gossip-type columns in newspapers etc. It is not acceptable. Does this again and I may seek an administrator's review of what is going on because you clearly do not have consensus. - Sitush (talk) 14:20, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

December 2011[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Kim Kardashian. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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I am unsure what your issue is with Kim Kardashian but you really are warring against several people now. Why not take it to the talk page and try to get some consensus? - Sitush (talk) 01:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: Futureproof (album)[edit]

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My bad, that was an accident. I meant to just restore the sources that were removed.Hoponpop69 (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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List of people with the most children[edit]

Please restore the mothers section and merge it into the couples section. Why was 'Henry and Anna Crocker' removed? A lack of evidence? 174.22.15.55 (talk) 06:00, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Collaboration of Punks[edit]

HEY HO, LET'S GO!!!

Punk rockers—As you know, the Ramones are undeniably the first punk rock band, so it is vital to this genre that we collaborate to improve their scope! So far, I have worked on the band's first three albums, and it would be awesome if all the punks on Wiki would aid in expanding/cleaning the Ramones articles. You can see my progress here.
Please fellow fans, do this for the old-school punk.

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Your redirect of Prole drift to Proletariat[edit]

Was there any discussion or consensus about this move or did you act unilaterally? Just curious. - CompliantDrone (talk) 01:46, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I acted unilaterally, as the article had a single sentence worth of sourced content.Hoponpop69 (talk) 05:37, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Your inappropriate unilateral merger of "Discordian calendar" with "Discordianism"[edit]

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Pointless "pockmarking" tagging[edit]

The purpose of tags such as "citation needed" is to single out passages which are in need of special attention. If you automatically add tags to the end of every paragraph, then you aren't accomplishing anything too meaningful, since tagging everything without distinction is functionally the same as tagging nothing... AnonMoos (talk) 12:07, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Useless "pockmarking" tagging again (on article "Discordian calendar" this time)[edit]

As I told you before directly above, indiscriminately adding tags to the end of every paragraph or sentence is really rather useless, since it goes against the basic purpose of such tags, which is TO SINGLE OUT PARTICULAR PASSAGES IN NEED OF SPECIAL ATTENTION. Indiscriminate "pockmarking" tagging really accomplishes very little except to annoy other people... AnonMoos (talk) 00:09, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Then use sources. If you don't want people to ask for sources don't have unsourced content.Hoponpop69 (talk) 15:40, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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STOP YOUR QUASI-VANDALISTIC MESSING AROUND WITH ARTICLE "Discordian calendar"[edit]

"Citation needed" tags are to be used on Wikipedia with common sense and to serve a useful purpose (and not whatever you're trying to use them for). Basically all of the assertions that you've been pointlessly tagging up can be found on http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/41.php , which is the very first link given on the page! The URL http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/41.php is not going to be linked at the end of every single sentence, because that's not the way Wikipedia works. If there's something significant in the article which is not supported by http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/41.php or any other provided reference, then it's OK to add a specific "citation needed" tag with discretion. What's not OK is to go on a meaningless indiscriminate pockmarking rampage... AnonMoos (talk) 15:09, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Then use sources. If you don't want people to ask for sources don't have unsourced content.Hoponpop69 (talk) 03:44, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I reverted your a7 tag of the above article. The tag was completely meritless. I strongly urge you not to tag any articles as you obviously don't know what you're doing. If I see you do it again, you risk being blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:13, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your wisdom and revert, but I'll be ignoring your rudely worded advice and be tagging whatever I want, whenever I want.Hoponpop69 (talk) 02:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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