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Unpipe.js[edit]
This is wonderful! Thank you so much. Obviously I'll continue to test it before I begin unleashing it on real pages, but at first sight it seems just the ticket. Thanks again, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 14:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have to disagree. For example, on North Wales Main Line it changed [[Anglesey|Isle of Anglesey]] to [[Anglesey]], while on Marshlink line, it changed [[A259 road|A259]] to [[A259]] which appears to contradict MOS:SPECIFICLINK. Jean-de-Nivelle, can you stop using this script until this issue is looked at? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:20, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. I've been checking all my edits before (or sometimes after) publishing though, so I think I've caught any anomalies as they arise. There are one or two issues with the way it handles section links
[[A#B|C]]
as well. But this is only a prototype. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)- I've just spotted three errors in three separate articles, so my conclusion is that the script is buggy and shouldn't be used unless these are fixed. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Jean-de-Nivelle: Can you elaborate on those issues? The way it's intended to work is that if "A#B" and "C" both lead to the same section (through a redirect or not), it will convert it to
[[C]]
. Nardog (talk) 04:50, 18 January 2024 (UTC)- I haven't had time to test out the issue comprehensively yet.
[[A#B|C]] → [[C]]
seems to work fine.[[A#B|A]]
is problematic: for example,[[Louisiana#Law and government|Louisiana]]
becomes[[Louisiana]]
.[[Digital Audio Broadcasting#United Kingdom|Digital Audio Broadcasting]]
becomes[[Digital Audio Broadcasting]]
. I meant to test a range of situations, but I've been dealing with other things. - One other small problem is deliberate disambiguation links - things like
[[A (disambiguation)|A]]
. It's easy enough to check for those and fix them before (or after) publishing an edit, but an automatic fix would be great. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 09:12, 18 January 2024 (UTC)- Thanks, that should be fixed now. I wanted it to replace links like
[[Foo|foo]]
offline because there's no need to see if they're redirects in the first place, but I forgot about the possibility that the first part can contain a section. - The script already skips links whose first part ends in
(disambiguation)
since 13 January. Nardog (talk) 09:40, 18 January 2024 (UTC)- That was quick! I'd actually noticed that you'd fixed the disambiguation thing already, but it had slipped my mind.
- Do you have any idea how many editors are using the script now? I know of at least one other. I'd also be very interested to hear your views on the wikipolitics of the situation. There's a discussion over on my Talk page here. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 10:00, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's been installed by like a dozen people already, which is surprising (perhaps they saw your summaries). I've created documentation. Nardog (talk) 02:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. I know of one editor who'd followed the link in my edit summary, plus Ritchie333 of course. I'd suggested it to another editor here, but as far as I know they haven't been using it. I wasn't sure about the etiquette of giving credit, so I just left the link in my edit summaries. There's probably a conversation to be had about its wider application, but it's been a very useful tool in a specific context. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 14:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's been installed by like a dozen people already, which is surprising (perhaps they saw your summaries). I've created documentation. Nardog (talk) 02:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, that should be fixed now. I wanted it to replace links like
- I haven't had time to test out the issue comprehensively yet.
- Just a quick correction: it actually changed
[[Anglesey|Isle of Anglesey]]
to[[Isle of Anglesey]]
, which is what it's designed to do. It stripped out an unnecessary pipe while leaving the target page and the displayed text unchanged. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:41, 16 January 2024 (UTC) - Also, I don't think MOS:SPECIFICLINK applies here.
[[A259 road|A259]]
and[[A259]]
are equivalent links with the same target page and the same displayed text. The script seems to be working as intended, following WP:NOPIPE. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, of course. I've been checking all my edits before (or sometimes after) publishing though, so I think I've caught any anomalies as they arise. There are one or two issues with the way it handles section links
Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]
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Edit on The People's Joker[edit]
My bad, I usually try to be careful when I'm changing "movie → film" in articles but I missed the quotation marks for once -Gouleg🛋️ harass/hound (she/her) 13:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Complications[edit]
I don’t see how cat-next is much more complicated to not be a shortcut. It’s still a shortcut link, just configurable. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:03, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- I created the Shortcuts section to lump together all scripts that basically did "nothing but" add portlet links. cat-next not only allows the user to configure it but provides an interface for it. That's more like a searching feature. Nardog (talk) 02:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see how that makes it like searching, plus that doesn't change its nature of being like a shortcut. It seems like it'll be more useful to group it inside shortcuts, as all of these extensions serve similar purposes. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Going to put that back for now :p Aaron Liu (talk) 12:52, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- If it provides an interface to configure itself it's more than just a shortcut. This demarcation was important for the purpose of organizing the list as a whole, which was a chaos before I made that section. Please let us not lose it. Nardog (talk) 13:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- What did it look like before that, then?I really don’t see the merits (the reason) for banishing anything that exposes its configuration to another section, especially since its intended functionality is to be a shortcut and “Appearance and behavior” is very much not apt to describe it. Aaron Liu (talk) 14:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- If it provides an interface to configure itself it's more than just a shortcut. This demarcation was important for the purpose of organizing the list as a whole, which was a chaos before I made that section. Please let us not lose it. Nardog (talk) 13:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your edits to Katakana.
I guess we don't use ruby characters because WP:NOTDICTIONARY. Anyway, I think it looks awkward for the kana to be written right after the kanji. Awesome Aasim 18:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Conflict of interest management: Case opened[edit]
Hello Nardog,
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For the Arbitration Committee,
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Revert[edit]
Hello friend. Regarding this revert, is it really necessary to enforce WP:TPO on obvious typos? Maybe I'm reading the room wrong, but I think most editors would appreciate this type of uncontroversial, helpful fix. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:01, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Boldly fixing "obvious typos" in other people's comments is outside the norm of what's tolerated as far as I've seen. Precisely because what's "uncontroversial" or "helpful" is subjective and varies from person to person, I think we err on the side of preserving the record. Nardog (talk) 11:31, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- The above diff seems like a case of WP:NOTBURO to me. Filer and filter are both words, and the sentence makes no sense using the word filer. It's an obvious typo, and it saves people time and mental energy to correct it. Seems like a waste to type this or to ping @Xaosflux when I can just fix it... –Novem Linguae (talk) 12:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)