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Thank you for updating the Lunar Rover picture. I'm curious about your userbox, and I wonder what is behind the deviation for Eire not following wp:commonname. Is is Irish nationalists wanting to make a point that Ireland is not united, NI protestants who take the republic being called by its wp:commonname as a claim on NI, or both? Sorry if I'm being rude, but I thought it'd be ok to ask with it being in a box and all. I also find the question interesting because I participate in WP:RM discussions, and this kind of problem crops up from time to time. ^walk victor falk ^talk 11:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There have been interminable, exhausting, and enormously tedious discussions about what title Irish articles should bear. There is an island of Ireland (article Ireland) which was partitioned by the British in 1922, creating a new statelet in the north called Northern Ireland. Because the island and the southern state have the same name, Ireland, different titles are required to distinguish a geographic article from a social-political one.

The official name of the state is Ireland, defined by Article 4 of the Constitution of Ireland: "The name of the state is Éire, and in the English language, Ireland." (Éire is the term in the Irish language.) It is neither officially nor unofficially called "Republic of Ireland", nevertheless, Irish Wikipedia editor opinion was outnumbered in discussion by foreign editors who forced through the decision that the article about the state should be called Republic of Ireland, even though no country on earth is officially called that.

(By order of FIFA, the national football team is called Republic of Ireland because for a number of years after Partition in 1922 , there were two football teams called Ireland, one on either side of the new border; now we have Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland in football).

There were proposals that we could have articles called Ireland (island) and Ireland (state), but what we wound up with was Ireland for the island and Republic of Ireland for the state.

There is a curious and fucked up policy now (I forget the name of the policy, but it is in Help) that wikilinks to the article about the state are to be coded thus: [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]. This idiocy drives me insane on three levels: Republic of Ireland is not the name of the country; it is inconsistent to pipe two names for one place into a wikilink like that; and every time I want to create a link to Ireland, I have to type out the whole damned thing, instead of simply [[Ireland]].

If you have a masochistic streak, you can find out where all the old discussions (fights) about this are, and read them. They will destroy your faith in humanity. I created my user box one day as a spontaneous cry of anguish at the absurdity and pure wrongness-in-fact of [[Republic of Ireland|Ireland]]. Imagine if United States editors had been forced to accept that wikilinks to the article about their country were coded like this: [[Republic of the United States of America|United States]].

I have no patience for this shit. It is a bitter pill to swallow – without being histrionic, it is a violation of reason and of self, and counter to the spirit of education of Wikipedia – to accept that the article about Ireland in the biggest encyclopaedia on earth is misnamed, and creates the false impression to all and sundry, including under-educated Irish people, that the official name of the country is "Republic of Ireland". — O'Dea (talk) 12:19, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's exactly the kind of thing that makes people say "wikipedia is made up stuff". It's locating the US article at the States, or the UK one at Blighty. It reflects poorly on the project. The straight forward answer from the policies and guidelines is "use a disambiguator", but one sees how "(state)" might be bit confusing, what with stuff like the Irish Free State and all. Also, as I see it, Ireland the state is clearly the wp:primarytopic compared to the island, which should be Ireland (island). Why can't people accept Ireland as wp:primarytopic? he asks naively. ^walk victor falk ^talk 13:09, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see now that Ireland article is not really about the island, but is wp:dabconcept; that's not entirely unreasonable. But that still leaves RoI. Skimming through WP:Ireland Collaboration, my impression is in one of literal entrenchment, the lines happen to be where they are just because they are there. I can understand your frustration. ^walk victor falk ^talk 13:27, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You might find this interesting: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ireland_Collaboration#.22Republic_of_Ireland.22_de-capitalisation_in_running_text. Do you think it'd make a difference as to the perception of RoI as an official name? ^walk victor falk ^talk 16:17, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you, Katie. — O'Dea (talk) 23:12, 5 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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We may not have much in common, but I think our heritage may, at least a bit on my paternal side. 🍀 The maternal side, not so much. 🍝 Anyway, your collaboration at Circe is very much appreciated. I have been working with SNAAAAKE!! for a while now, and he truly is an amazing writer and very dedicated to getting the articles right. He has the energy and desire, and he does listen to suggestions and constructive criticism, so again, thank you. ^Atsme 📣 📧 19:14, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Atsme: Thank you, and I like Italians, too! (Assuming that's what your pasta-dish icon means.) I have enjoyed my times in Italy. As to SNAAAAKE!!, I appreciate his work on Circe; what provoked my intervention was simply that he unilaterally performed a merge in opposition to established consenus, even if the debate was limited in scope to a handful of contributors. The discussion should be broadened to more contributors. If that resulted in a merge, which I would oppose, then so be it. — O'Dea (talk)

Yes, Italian. Understood about the merge. Happy editing! ^Atsme 📣 📧 20:21, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, O'Dea, I just asked an Adminstrator what might be the next move, given SNAAAAKE!!'s bluster and intransigence. He suggested a WP:RfC to unmerge the two, which would be a broadening of the discussion that you mention above. Are you up for initiating that? Sweetpool50 (talk) 17:02, 14 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion - can't we just sit tight and let him finish what he started? At least, let's see where it ends up? We have someone willing to do the research/writing/cleanup - and he's not doing anything that can't be undone - so why throw a wrench in his momentum? He has done some pretty amazing work with articles related to Arthurian legends, including Mordred, Morganna, Merlin (poem), etc. He has earned various editing accolades and I don't see how it's going to hurt anything to let him work. Please? ^Atsme 📣 📧 02:31, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't about individuals, or even content, it's about the workability of Wikipedia. With so many contributing, there have to be guidelines for courteous co-operation. If an editor considers what he has to contribute is so valuable that procedures can be waived in his case, then the whole project has a problem. What is proposed is a discussion to see if other editors agree with SNAAAAKE's action, not the quality of what he writes. Sweetpool50 (talk) 17:02, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is about collaboration and what is best for the project, the latter of which takes priority. It is not our job to police articles simply to make sure editors are following all the rules. Keep in mind WP:IAR and the not so bendable policy of WP:CIR. Call an RfC if you believe it's best for the project. ^Atsme 📣 📧 17:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re your continued reversion of two different IP editors' (hopefully not sock puppets) edits of the Gemini 5 astronauts' names: please read WP:COMMONNAME carefully; it applies to article titles only, and does not follow wikilinks wherever they go. Back in the day, the astronauts were known by their more formal names rather than as what we recognize as the "common names" today. Nothing prohibits use of those names as references inside of other articles.

And using the pipe trick to synonymously link is perfectlly OK. No one is proposing moving the article titles. I am not either one of those two IP addresses, but I happen to agree with them. Please leave these edits alone. JustinTime55 (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI, I reverted one of your edits on [Dublin, California]] which undid a removal by Antandrus. That removal was due to WP:LTA, specifically, Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/Hanover_Research. The original editor, User:2601:648:8501:7160:AD89:3E31:DBF7:C556, was blocked. Cheers, Mdaniels5757 (talk) 22:11, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] Your assumption is good, but it was not like that in communist Czechoslovakia in the 1950s. Most of people with the bourgeois background were persecuted by the régime at that time. It was working class who ruled in my country and selected loyal individuals sometimes even enjoyed some selected advantages, not 'prosperous bourgeoisie'. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 14:20, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. In your edit of 12 January you added a Refimprove tag to this article. In your edit summary you wrote "The bulk of the article is unsupported by citations". Having created the original I keep an eye on this article and I am sure there is room for improvement. But there are currently 41 citations so I can't see how you arrived at your conclusion. That said, I'd be happy to source references for those parts of the article you see as deficient. So when time permits I'd be grateful if you could let me know what gaps you believe need to be filled. Thanks. Jim Bruce (talk) 10:39, 13 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for the fyi about quotes https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2022_in_Ireland&diff=1093159286&oldid=1093158738 I thought that that that only applied for more novel ones like «». (I'm basing my understanding on MOS:CONFORM). I'm genuinely trying to understand, which ones are in quoted material, because I'm only seeing titles. Do titles count as quoted material? Smasongarrison (talk) 00:10, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The manual of style informs us: "the wording of the quoted text should be faithfully reproduced."

For example, the first edit you made changed two curly apostrophes to straight apostrophes in the following quoted tweet: My beautiful son, Nevi’im Nesta Ali Shane O’Connor, the very light of my life, decided to end his earthly struggle today....

Your second change was to a quoted newspaper headline which used curly quotes: ‘My light’ – singer Sinead O’Connor pays tribute to son Shane after his tragic death.

Not just in Wikipedia, but in general, quotations cannot alter the original material quoted.

The manual of style does however comment: "However, insignificant spelling and typographic errors [my italics] should simply be silently corrected (for example, correct basicly to basically)." O'Dea (talk) 00:45, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to explain your reasoning. I think my interpretation is a little different because I was following this MOS:CONFORM based on the distinction between wording and typographical elements. (I cut out some examples in the middle)

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[...]

• Convert apostrophes and quotation marks to Wikipedia's style:
  • These should be straight, not curly or slanted. See § Quotation marks.

So, I think that it is ok to change curly or slanted marks into straight marks, even within quoted tweets. I'm also not sure that titles count as quotes. But, I don't think that it's the core issue here. I think that it gets much greyer when we get into other things, like non-English language quotes. Smasongarrison (talk) 16:04, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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