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g13[edit]

Although bot edits don't count for preventing G13, the program to warn of forthcoming g13s doesn't seem to recognize that, so some of your g13s, tho technically valid might be savable if either the author had seen the notice, or those who check Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions had seen theml. We needtoget this fixed first, I think. I rescued a few that might need further checking. DGG ( talk ) 05:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: Agreed, all of the G13 reporting/handling should exclude bot edits in issuing notifications and determining what is eligible (consistent with the criterion). Also would support a prohibition on bot edits of G13-eligible pages. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:56, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
so, in the meantime, unti ll we get it fixed, could you please not nominate them till they have a chance toget on the lists? I'm still going to check each one that look even possible if I can, but it makes it much harder for me, -- I don't like to ask it as a favor I have a shoulder injury that will make it very difficult to type for trhe next month at least. DGG ( talk ) 17:02, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: happy to pause (and here's hoping you feel better soon), but is anyone actually working on a fix? Or is this one of the "nevergreen" improvement initiatives? UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:55, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: having heard nothing (and skeptical any improvements are coming), I am going to resume tagging the bot-edited drafts; it is the only way to stay ahead of a massive dump of drafts into the daily file. (User:Monkbot just dumped a large number into today's stale draft report, for instance). UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:19, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Improvements at Wikipedia do not come quickly; My normal expectation and experience for significant changes is several years. Many things I started 10 or 12 years ago are still in progress. some of them have been accomplished; some never will be. But as you say the problem is what to do in the meantime. There's always a workaround. I am not sure how you identify the ones that you list. Tell me and I'll think of something. DGG ( talk ) 22:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: I just look at User contributions for each bot, filtered to just the draftspace and checking "Only show edits that are latest revisions". Hovering over each draft's history link shows whether the prior human revision was outside G13's six-month window. Note that many of the drafts are not AfC drafts, meaning that subset would not get any user notification prior to my notifying them of the G13 tagging in any event. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
had not thought of that,but which bots do you check? DGG ( talk ) 02:53, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: User:AnomieBOT, User:BattyBot, User:Citation bot (currently blocked), User:CommonsDelinker, User:FrescoBot, User:JCW-CleanerBot, User:JJMC89 bot III, User:Monkbot, User:PrimeBOT, User:ProcBot, User:RussBot, User:SporkBot and User:TheSandBot are the main ones. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, is it really necessary to deactivate Categories with colons, like you did here? I know Drafts should not be in main space categories, but this particular draft was already force excluded by using the {{Draft categories}} template. BOVINEBOY2008 23:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And now I see I had mistyped the template... my bad! But my question still stands, although more hypothetical. BOVINEBOY2008 23:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Bovineboy2008: thanks for the question; the cats should be commented out to avoid polluting the article categories with draft or sandbox pages. If the {{Draft categories}} template is applied correctly ( :) ), commenting is not necessary; otherwise, colons it is! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:29, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ThanksThis is not in my usual approach so I'll see what can be done there . DGG ( talk ) 07:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a few pages which qualify for the category. Can you please from the speedy deletion tag? Thank you. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 17:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@KingSkyLord: of course, done. And thanks! UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:25, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cyrillic text[edit]

Hi US. In your RfD nomination for Сitadel of Baturyn Fortress you say "The redirect's initial character is the Cyrillic "С", not am English C". How did you tell? I'm interested because these mixed text redirects come up every now and again but I can't tell the difference by looking (using Safari on a MacBook). Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shhhnotsoloud: thanks for the question. I used Special:All pages with prefix and pasted the Cyrillic С into the box (which of course only gives ones where that character is the initial one; I think the standard "Title contains" search would also work (and show the character's use anywhere in the title) if you paste in the desired character. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:22, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see, thanks. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 06:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hayley Griffiths deleted article[edit]

Thank you for your last two comments on my page. I realise that I have not updated the article as I have not had time in the last 6 months and have let it lapse. I may create a new draft with more reliable sources in future.Pmsouc (talk) 19:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on The Standard Life Assurance Company in China (1847-1920; 1998-2017) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section R2 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a redirect from the article namespace to a different namespace except the Category, Template, Wikipedia, Help, or Portal namespaces.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. DannyS712 (talk) 13:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:List of[edit]

Hello UnitedStatesian, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Draft:List of, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Kept at MfD. Thank you. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 21:25, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I just wanted to say that the article was virtually ready for publication just I am not extended confirmed so I cannot publish. Peter Kelford (talk) 20:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Kelford: if you use the link on your talkpage to request undeletion, I will review it for publication for you once it is undeleted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@UnitedStatesian: I have now apparently successfully undeleted the page, where can I find it? Peter Kelford (talk) 06:18, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Peter Kelford: You have requested the undeletion; allow a few hours for an admin. to process your undeletion request, and then it will be right back where you expect it to be. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 06:24, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks. Peter Kelford (talk) 06:34, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi.I think what these two id 89.165.92.197 and 188.159.243.245 are doing in this article Majid Samii is vandalism. They are removing sourced materials and are adding incorrect and without source materials.They have deleted this Category:German people of Iranian Azerbaijani descent too.I want to keep this article from vanalism.Regards--Namaka (talk) 16:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know what these do?[edit]

You edited a redirect on my watch list, and I noticed that you are a "template editor". Please could you help me to understand some templates that an IP editor put on another page on my watchlist.[1]
{{#related:Ajey Nagar}}
{{#related:Bhuvan Bam}}
{{#related:Ashish Chanchlani}}

What do they do?-- Toddy1 (talk) 18:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Toddy1:: thanks for the question, but you have stumped me: I am not familiar with that code, and it doesn't seem to be doing anything. Maybe ask the helpdesk? (or you can safely remove that addition). UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:20, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I will remove it.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:02, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Copy/paste[edit]

If something is marked as a potential copy/paste, it must be tagged as either a WP:G12 speedy deletion or cleanup up and marked for {{revdel}}. Please do not simply turn it into a redirect, as you did here. Primefac (talk) 20:51, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Primefac: thanks for letting me know; apologies, I simply missed the {{copyvio}} tag (don't normally expect to find those when processing drafts that are eligible for G13: six months is a long time for a page to sit with that tag on it). UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:44, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point, didn't even notice the timing! Primefac (talk) 14:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

AFC: Submit References by wiki[edit]

I agree to delete references 1 and 3. Reference 2 is suitable for all citations used. It is a Calculus book. Thanks U:Kkmal.Hamouda Kkmal.Hamouda (talk) 06:22, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Index of Vatican City-related articles[edit]

Your edit summary when moving Index of Vatican City–related articles to Index of Vatican City-related articles on 7 March 2020 seems to indicate confusion between an en-dash and a hyphen. You moved it away from using an en-dash, although your edit summary said you thought it should use an en-dash. —BarrelProof (talk) 04:12, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BarrelProof: thanks for letting me know. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:13, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

the reverse logic of speedies[edit]

can be quite off-putting - my reason for comment at gderrin - however your explanation might have removed my comment and seem reasonable (as it is), it still can be confusing... JarrahTree 04:38, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Henrik Fisker (disambiguation) has been accepted[edit]

Henrik Fisker (disambiguation), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Disambig-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Eagleash (talk) 22:17, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Near Duplicate Drafts[edit]

Hi UnitedStatesian. Unless I'm missing something, G6 does not apply to "mistitled near-duplicate" drafts (e.g. Draft:Dillanm Draft). It's generally appropriate to redirect "duplicates" to another draft (see WP:ATD-R), but if you want to nominate these for deletion, you'll need to use MfD. -FASTILY 23:30, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also letting you know that I have declined your G6 nominations with the rationale "created with incorrect title, then moved". Many of these are relatively old redirects, and should first be discussed at WP:RfD before being deleted. Thanks, FASTILY 23:38, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Fastily: thanks, I'll take both sets of pages to the respective fD forums (and will ping you). Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 23:42, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your edit[edit]

Thank you very much for merging my "Jewish Gulag detainees" page into the larger "Gulag detainees" page.

LadyAelfwynn92

LadyAelfwynn92 (talk) 19:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May I know why this page was not publish but written by on the basis of reliable source

any challenge for that ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.182.120 (talk) 19:43, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:2019 Municipal elections of Westfield, Massachusetts and Draft:List of Mayors of Westfield, Massachusetts[edit]

You have my full permission to delete both drafts. I originally created them to make the political information of Westfield more known, even though the city is not considered newsworthy or notable due to the population and coverage. BacktoSchoolForever0700 (talk) 22:27, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Amusement Parks Project Members has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 10:33, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:MoSys[edit]

Hello, UnitedStatesian. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "MoSys".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! WikiMacaroonsCinnamon? 14:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, UnitedStatesian. Unfortunately, this is what there is on the heretidary palace in Dessau. The only sources available on the moment is the history on the Stadtpark, which has been included as reference, and postcards. I have contacted the local archive and historians, and they agree

Three Suggested Edits for Your Consideration[edit]

Hello, UnitedStatesian.

I see that you've made business-status updates to the Vertiv's page in the past. Thank you for those and the thousands of edits you have made to keep pages current. I'm writing to suggest three potential additional edits to make the Vertiv page more current and complete. In full disclosure, I am a member of the the company's PR team, working in their external agency.

Here are the suggested edits:

In the infobox -- Company Type: Public New information to add -- Traded as: VRT, NYSE Addition to Key People -- David Cote, Chairman (source: https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/14003396)

I'm brand new to Wikipedia, much the opposite of yourself. If there is another way I should be going about this, please let me know.

Thank you, CommuniContent (talk) 18:50, 29 July 2020 (UTC)CommuniContent[reply]

@CommuniContent: Thanks you so much for requesting these; I have made them. IF you see any other changes needed to public company articles, please let me know. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:23, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for making this updates, and will do re: other public company pages. Also, should the company type for Vertiv be listed as public since it trades on the NYSE? Thanks.

CommuniContent (talk) 19:24, 5 August 2020 (UTC)CommuniContent[reply]

@CommuniContent: thanks, yes, I corrected the type too just now. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements to the Draft:Montserrat (typeface)[edit]

Hello, recently I improved the draft of the article "Montserrat (typeface)" and also i added a infobox typeface. Would you like to transfer to the Encyclopedia article? Thanks and regards, --Rodney Araujo (talk) 00:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rodney Araujo: Thanks for you diligent work, and I saw you resubmitted, but my guess is that the article will again be rejected, because it has no sources. Please try to find sources in order to make it more likely that it is accepted (you can continue to improve while the review is pending). Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Astroviridae/Astrovirus[edit]

Hi, UnitedStatesian! I've removed your G6 tag from Astroviridae, as I don't believe we can or should have two articles on the same family of viruses – our existing page is at Astrovirus. It seems that a lot of the draft is anyway taken from there. I suggest selective merging of material from the draft as the best way forward. Thanks for all your good work, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 11:54, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I look at the history of Astrovirus, it seems that the editor of the draft may already have done this. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:03, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there[edit]

I hope you can asssit me, I would greatly appreciate your help. I began a draft over a year ago and it's been deleted due to lack of editing. It has a lot of work still but I've done so much already I cried when I saw it was gone! It's my article Mike Roche(Musicin) the founding member of TSOL (Punk Band), and tattoo artist. I really appreciate however you can help me get this work back. I want to continue editing it's just been a hell of a year. Thank you TVaughanSoCalTVaughanSoCal (talk) 23:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@TVaughanSoCal: I see the draft has been restored, at Draft:Mike Roche (musician). Let me know if you need anything further. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored this article to mainspace. Per WP:DRAFTIFY, moving articles to draftspace is not to be used as a backdoor to deletion, and is therefore not appropriate for articles that have a significant history, are more than a few months old, or where the original author is no longer active. In this case the author of the article has not edited since 2011. If you feel it needs to be deleted it should go through AfD. – bradv🍁 02:06, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Bradv: sorry about that. I see another editor has already applied the PROD tag to the article. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:21, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. PROD is fine too. Cheers. – bradv🍁 02:23, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Camden College (fictional college) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Camden College (fictional college) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camden College (fictional college) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notifying you since you endorsed the now removed PROD. Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:34, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks as always @Nathan2055: Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:35, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Nathan2055talk - contribs 20:41, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hawaii categories[edit]

Hi, I saw that you recently created Category:Independent Hawaii. I am wondering if there isn't significant overlap between the following categories: Category:Independent Hawaii, Category:Pre-annexation Hawaii, and Category:Pre-statehood history of Hawaii. My sense is that if we have the other two, Category:Pre-annexation Hawaii can go. What do you think? Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Good Olfactory: thanks for the question, and yes, certainly there is overlap. I personally don't like the two "pre-" categories because basically they are categorizations based on what something is not: even an article like Ancient Hawaii should technically go into both of those categories. I also tend not to like categories that do not have an article that defines them, and of course there is neither Pre-annexation Hawaii nor Pre-statehood history of Hawaii. But I think yours is a question better raised at Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawaii. UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PROD removal[edit]

Hey, can you explain what Special:Diff/972769987 was all about? Nathan2055talk - contribs 21:16, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Nathan2055: thanks for the question. There is an active discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Resolve the inconsistency_between_WP:DRAFTIFY_and_WP:ATD; based on how that resolves, consensus may be that the draftification or Gil Grant should not have been reversed. So it makes no sense to delete the article while that Village Pump discussion is ongoing. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:22, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Two Quick Questions[edit]

Hi UStatesian

I usually create articles direct and not draft first i see you disable category of this page is it possible for you to review this article? or i can delete draft and publish the article direct? they are passing notability. Draft:Nick Wrenn and Draft:Misbah Mumtaz. Memon KutianaWala (talk) 11:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Memon KutianaWala: thanks for the question. Both drafts have been submitted for review; a member of the Articles for Creation team will review each and respond accordingly. Such reviews usually take several weeks; thanks in advance for your patience. UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:13, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A thought on drafts from deleted articles.[edit]

Even if the draft is not in draft as a result of the AfD, I feel that it is important to note somewhere on the draft that the topic was previously deleted, and that the deficiencies leading to this result can be found in the discussion. BD2412 T 02:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

True @BD2412: But I just don't think the {{AfD-userfied}} template is the right one to use in those few cases. 03:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if I can't think through some alternatives. Cheers! BD2412 T 04:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Art of Hosting[edit]

Hi

Just to say thanks for pointing out the rule about not putting in categories into Draft: Art of Hosting -- and apologies, I don't recall reverting your correction, it must have been an oversight or accident on my part Simon Grant (talk) 20:23, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Asimong: you're very welcome. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:15, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey UnitedStatesian, thank you for helping me with an effort to restore the "International versions" category for ICSYV. Kindly please go to this discussion. Makoy Canlas (talk) 02:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive speedy[edit]

Are you trying to annoy me? Because if so you have succeeded? Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Djm-leighpark: if you are referring to Draft:Liquidsoap, I would note that the draft had been abandoned for six months and therefore was eligible for speedy deletion under criterion G13. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:10, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've not abandoned it! On top of that there's a bot that can sort that out! I have into interrupt my dinner to avoid wasting an admins time to get aG13 refund if it had been deleted. And I'm now in a foul mood. I suppose you are happy with that. THANKS! Djm-leighpark (talk) 17:15, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G13 Deletions[edit]

Why aren't you notifying article creators when you nominate their entries for deletion? FloridaArmy (talk) 07:20, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FloridaArmy: Creator notification is strictly optional on a case-by-case basis. My question for you is why you let so, so, SO many drafts reach the 6 month abandonment point, only to "rescue" them with minor edits or at WP:REFUND, only after other editors have had to tag them, or in the WP:REFUND case, administrators have also had to get involved twice. This makes no sense especially since it is so easy to keep track of a very large set of drafts and ensure they are human-edited every 5.9 (or less) months. Two ways: 1) add them to your watchlist: if you then click on "Edit your watchlist", the list that comes up has a history link next to every watched draft, and hovering over it (not even having to click) shows date of the latest edit. Or, 2) if you don't want to receive watchlist edit notices for so many pages, create a user subpage that lists all the drafts you want to "protect"; if you enclose each one in the {{articlelinks}} template, the list will display the same history link that you can hover over to see the history, just like in method 1). Looking forward to your response. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I create draftson notable subjects I come across that I don't immediately have time to flesh out. I was pu ished for creating short articles on such subjects so I am relegated to using draftspace. I would appreciate a notice and I dont2 think drafts on notable subjects should be speedied. Good judgment and common sense should apply. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:21, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@FloridaArmy: then I would reiterate my suggestion: if you don't think they should be speedied, the solution is to make sure you make your minor edits every 5.9 months rather than every 6.1 months. If you do that, I can GUARANTEE they will never, ever, be G13 speedied again. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:25, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would appreciate the basic courtesy and decencyof a notification when one of my drafts is put up for speedy deletion and reiterate my assertion thatcommon sense and good judgment should apply on what subjects are deleted. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you point me to the discussion where it was determined notifications to creators are no longer needed for G13 nominations? FloridaArmy (talk) 13:29, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CSD says "There is strong consensus that the creators and major contributors of pages and media files should be warned. . ." It does not not say "must", and of course WP:IAR applies, particularly for a creator whom the community has found to have disrupted the AfC process. UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Eligibility[edit]

On the note of G13 nominations, why did you nominate this draft for G13? stwalkerster (talk) 21:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, @Stwalkerster:, I meant to remove the categories per WP:DRAFTNOCAT; clicked the wrong link by mistake. Thanks for pointing this out. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No worries, I just saw it pop up in the abusefilter logs for filter 29, and was a little confused! :D stwalkerster (talk) 21:33, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dear @UnitedStatesian:, I checked this draft created by User:Epicure2020 and corrected small things. The notability seems all right and the sources are good. would you mind to review or publish it? All the best, --Philippe49730 (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Philippe49730: lookse good, thanks for your work. I published it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:03, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help for removing Peacock|date=August 2020 from article Chemancheri Kunhiraman Nair[edit]

I want to submit Chemancheri Kunhiraman Nair for further review to remove the <--Peacock|date=August 2020-->, I have changed the promotional words those i used in it. please let me know, Whether I can delete that manually or is there any further page revisions will come.

Takuma Kajiwara[edit]

Regarding https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_photographed_by_Takuma_Kajiwara&type=revision&diff=866468218&oldid=865169981, I don't see anything that forbids using "Notable" in the titles of articles. Can you be specific about what is said, and where it is said? Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 04:45, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @BeenAroundAWhile: thanks for the question. Of course in Wikipedia almost nothing is "forbidden", but the relevant text is from WP:LISTNAME: "Best practice is to avoid words like notable, famous, noted, prominent, etc. in the title of a list article." And in fact in all of English Wikipedia there is only one "List of notable . . ." article. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:52, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Stale Drafts Confusion[edit]

Can I poke your brain since you have lots of knowledge in this topic? I was looking through the Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts last night and reported a fair number of drafts that showed no promise of going further and were long stale (5+ years) with creators long absent (3+ years). I thought, from this that they were eligible for G13 (6 mo+ stale draft delete). Most were accepted with my report of G13, but not all were and were rejected for reasons I don't fully understand yet and would like to understand. Today a user commented on my userpage asking essentially "what the heck are you doing?" At first I thought I understood what she was complaining about, but now, I have no clue. Since you've been doing the Stale Drafts project for a good while, would you mind clarifying to me in a reply here what specifically she has an issue about, and why some of the pages I reported failed deletion under G13 so that I can contribute to the project better and not tick her (or others) off? I'll give you a few examples of drafts that G13 was rejected and the reasons that were stated:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Charliedossett/Cooler%27s_armored_squadron&oldid=878222077 "non AFC userpages do not qualify for G13"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Charnocat/Michigan_HERC&oldid=485997474 "G13 is not for userpages"

Both had the WIP (Userspace draft|source=ArticleWizard) template on the pages before I reported them, but after I reported as a G13, that disappeared, and after the delete template was removed from the rejection, the WIP was not returned. Is that part of the issue? What should I be looking for to determine a G13 for this project to avoid such rejections? Both also have the category of "Stale userspace drafts" and hidden cat "Userspace drafts from (date)" on the page, so how are they not a stale draft, eligible for G13? Thank you for your time, Zinnober9 (talk) 06:13, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Zinnober9: thanks for the questions, and your contributions. In order to be eligible for G13 deletion, a page in the userspace MUST have the {{afc draft}} template on it. If it does not have that template, the user can keep the draft around forever. Please don't tag userspace pages without that template for G13 deletion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Negativism[edit]

Please see my (utterly frustrated!) comments on your recent additions to my talk page, about rejecting my honest well-meant hard effort. You - and your negativist teammates - have totally convinced me of never again trying to create a new article. As I understand "collective effort", some people make an initial effort and then others contribute to it until something "good enough" is realised. In this case I made the effort and there only came up a club of destructionist hawks who applied all possible arguments to refute my work, instead of improving on it. Bah bah bah - NEVER AGAIN! Yer can be proud! Jan olieslagers (talk) 17:24, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G6 and Drafts[edit]

Hi UnitedStatesian, I've started a discussion on G6 and "duplicate" drafts. As I have previously observed you nominating such pages for deletion, you are cordially invited to participate. Regards, FASTILY 05:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Fastily: thanks for the ping, and for your continued wide-ranging diligent work. Interested to see the consensus that develops, and will of course follow it. UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:12, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you![edit]

Hi, UnitedStatesian,

You really undertook a marathon session of tagging old drafts. Thank you for all of your time and edits! Liz Read! Talk! 05:05, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: you are very welcome, and I appreciate the feedback. The only downside is it has taken me away from my C1 duties in the category space, but I sleep well knowing those are in your ever-diligent hands! UnitedStatesian (talk) 05:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I do wonder where you find all of these old drafts that aren't on the stale draft list. Do you patrol through old draft categories? Liz Read! Talk! 04:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Yes and no; there are two ways: One, the stale draft list has a lag: drafts in Category:AfC G13 eligible soon submissions hit the 6-month limit as much as 33 hours before the stale drafts report is run (and fortunately the cat is in chrono order). And Two, I look at the User contributions of the bots User:Citation bot, User:CommonsDelinker, User:Monkbot, User:PrimeBOT, User:SporkBot, and User:TheSandBot. If one of those bot's edits is the latest contribution to a draft, it is worth looking at the history to see whether the earlier, latest human contribution is longer ago than six months, making the draft G13-eligible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looking through those contributions is a generally good approach. --TheSandDoctor Talk 16:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Draft articles[edit]

I'm informing you that the draft articles I started of Draft:Queen of the Air, Draft:Expatriate (film) and Draft:Yasuke (film). The former has been long dormant and the latter two are sadly two Chadwick Boseman projects we won't get to see. Rusted AutoParts 03:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Rusted AutoParts: thanks for letting me know. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Good morning,

Thank you for the guidelines and advice regarding category references whilst still in draft phase. I have know corrected as per your advice.

Best, --HughesTrevor (talk) 05:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Help with article[edit]

I am reaching out to you as a member of the Wikipedia:Wikiproject Finance and Investment. A related draft article located here Draft:Bimal_V_Patel may be of interest to you. While I’m a former work colleague of the subject of the article, I’ve done extensive research into Wikipedia policy in order to abide by Wikipedia policies. I’d appreciate any help or thoughts you can provide. Capecodcontributor (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If this was the first article that you created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

The page Draft:Lockdoor Framework (software) has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appeared to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appeared to be a direct copy from https://github.com/SofianeHamlaoui/Lockdoor-Framework. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition has been be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Miss Teen World[edit]

Hi UnitedStatesian! I need your help, I did Miss Teen World contributions taking into account press releases and publications made about the contest since 2001, however Ayaat1998 reverted edits, I have read an "alert" and warning, preventing me from continuing with an impartial job that took me a whole day. I belive my contributios are correct, please, help me to cancel this warning and let me to write at Miss Teen World. The official contest emerged in Ecuador in 2001 by its founder Cesar Montece owner of the Queen of Ecuador company who died in 2009 https://www.eluniverso.com/2010/04/01/1/1379/murio-cesar-montece-empresario-belleza.html and for this reason was held as a new pageant under the same name in the US from 2009 to 2012. Due to a legal problem with Miss World he was forced to change the name of the pageant in the US, is called currently Miss Teen Continents. Montece's sister, president of the Queen of Ecuador Inc. company sold all rights to the pageant to Rodrigo Moreira, director of Miss Teen Ecuador in 2012. Montece had more than 20 beauty pageants in Ecuador. The website of that event was http://web.archive.org/web/20031229021751/http://www.queenofecuador.com.ec/ and on the web there are hundreds of referrals that can give you a more clear idea about it. Ayaat1998 is a user with bad intentions, who for some obscure reason asks to delete my user who has contributed neutrally to Wikipedia for many years.-->Jeniferliberman (talk) 19:08, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"That Man in the White House" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect That Man in the White House. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 16#That Man in the White House until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:29, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see also FYI: Wikipedia:Help desk#Edit summary box. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:47, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I reverted this move, there is a source within the article that notes the film is indeed filming. Not a violation of NFF so I put it back. Rusted AutoParts 05:23, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've raised the issue of the draft and the confusing AfC situation at WP:AN and have mentioned your involvement, seeking clarity on what should happen next. The thread is WP:AN#Theresa Greenfield. Thanks. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:31, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Ivanvector:, really appreciate it. I think we both got a little more than we thought we would when first wading into this. UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:07, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Respected Sir, Greetings of the day! I tried to improve the subject article, kindly see and comment. Best regardsRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 10:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion declined: Category:Films about Austrian royalty[edit]

Hello UnitedStatesian. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Category:Films about Austrian royalty, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Category pages (along with talk pages and user pages) are only eligible for G7 if the author requests it explicitly, not implicitly by blanking. Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I need help with drafts and articles[edit]

I need help with these drafts:

I need with these articles:

I need help because I don't have the exact amount of knowledge in those stories, elements, characters and references related to these articles and drafts, and don't want to copy and paste eternally because it violates Wikipedia's rules. However, it fells like I alone in this one, so I really need help. Thank you for reading. F. E. Puricelli (talk) 17:18, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@F. E. Puricelli: Thank you for your contributions, and for the question; unfortunately those are subjects that are beyond my expertise, so I can't help. The good news is that we have Wikipedia:WikiProject Transformers. I would suggest that you pose this questions on that project's talk page. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:08, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:FurnitureOkay[edit]

Hello, UnitedStatesian. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "FurnitureOkay".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 15:48, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the tip[edit]

Thank you so much for guiding to disable the categories. I believe you have already done it. I have removed the second sub category and kept the main as you suggested. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Javed khan39 (talkcontribs) 19:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please review this new draft or simply put a submit tag on it. --94.73.37.114 (talk) 12:16, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Submitted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page move request regarding Madonna and Child with Saints[edit]

I wanted to notify you that I have requested a technical move to reverse this move you made back in June. You can contest this move at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Requests to revert undiscussed moves. —ShelfSkewed Talk 16:13, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ShelfSkewed: thanks for letting me know and sorry about that; I took care of the RM myself. Best, UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking care of that—and for creating the dab page. Looks good!—ShelfSkewed Talk 19:22, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, UnitedStatesian,

I just noticed these categories and since you are the one who created them, I thought I'd ask you about them since I'm not sure who was involved in proposing them. Do they represent some change? Will drafts placed in these categories be ineligible for G13 status? I think that might be a good idea, I'm just curious to know where the decision was made. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 00:27, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: thanks for the question. The cats came out of a VPP discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive_159#Resolve_the_inconsistency_between_WP:DRAFTIFY_and_WP:ATD It was User:BD2412 who cmae up with the idea and set up the structure; I have only set up a bunch of the sub cats. I don't think anyone contemplates changing G13, but these categories allow us to identify pages that were at least established by non-anon users, and thus have a little more promise than your average draft. Currently drafts are only being tagged manually, but the bot is being worked on and once it is running the structure should be useful. UnitedStatesian (talk) 12:53, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is true that a draft moved from mainspace has to have been initiated by a registered account, which may signify better standing than an IP-initiated draft. However, the reason I wanted the categorization scheme was to identify drafts that were moved to draft pursuant to an AfD or CSD criteria, which should actually receive more scrutiny before being restored to mainspace to insure that the reasons for their being moved in the first place have been resolved. BD2412 T 15:13, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@BD2412: thanks for the explanation, very helpful. Do you know how far the development of the bot has progressed? UnitedStatesian (talk) 16:22, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) I appreciate the responses. I see thousands of old drafts that are now being placed in Category:Content moved from mainspace to draftspace categories and are exempt from the six month period of dormancy. Are there editors who will be reviewing them? I doubt most editors even know that these categories exist, BD2412.
I am all for rescuing promising drafts and turning them into articles. In fact, I feel that some AfC reviewers are too quick to reject drafts. But I'm not for creating another holding pen that can exist indefinitely. How about a 12 month limit after being moved from article space to draft space unless the draft is being worked on? I'm sure the SDZeroBot can configure a draft tag for this. Liz Read! Talk! 16:25, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
UnitedStatesian, the bot has progressed, it's because I saw stale drafts being removed from the User:SDZeroBot/G13 soon list to be put in these categories that led me to post this comment on your talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 16:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't request that drafts in these categories be exempt from G13, and they shouldn't be. The concern is merely that when they are submitted for review again, the reviewer should be aware that they have previously been moved from mainspace, and should ascertain why this happened, and whether the issues that precipitated this move have been resolved. Adding the category may reset the six-month clock, but ideally it should be added very shortly after draftification. BD2412 T 16:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That might have been your intent, BD2412. I think it's fine for G13 status be delayed until the drafts can be reviewed by an experienced reviewer. I just wasn't sure there was plan for how this would happen. And now that I know this is a very new change, my expectations have been adjusted. As you can see from SDZeroBot's actions, it's been quite active moving drafts over the past few days. Liz Read! Talk! 16:39, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My own view is that no changes to G13 are needed. These taggings by the bot do not reset the G13 clock, since G13 counts the time since the last human edit. Unfortunately the automatic processes to capture G13-eligible drafts does not have that bot/human subtlety, but I make it a practice to review bot-edited drafts to identify ones that are in fact G13 eligible. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:44, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that is a good idea, because they do not show up in the automated categories that I and Liz and the few other interested people check to see if they have promise of rescue. At the moment, the situation seems to be in a state of chaos, and we swould do well not to change any process until wehave an agreed flow pattern and know that it's implemented. At this point my concern is over 3 types of drafts: ones that the reviewer had not noticed should be evaluated by WP:PROF, or that were not in fact unreferenced, or did have somewhere the necessary indication for notability; ones that were declined for reasons that no dradt should be declined for--lack of inline references for any other than a BLP, for example, or incorrect formatting-- or anything else that can be fixed in mainspace.; and drafts that were never submitted for review at all for some unknown reason, but might even be good enough to be quickly fixed, or even immediately accepted,
I don't think of things as "exempt for G13"--- G13 is not appropriate for drafts that can be rescued if anyone thinks they can be so handled. I think some process like G13 is indeed essential, and I've deleted probably thousands of them, , but no speedy criterion is meant to be handled automatically without human review. DGG ( talk ) 23:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Company articles with out of date infobox information has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. MB 02:07, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please accept this draft about this well known Ukrainian criminal. --37.29.240.93 (talk) 13:02, 22 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Ocosia spinosa has been accepted[edit]