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Stretched table on the project page[edit]

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The Project assessment table appears abnormally stretched in the project table for reasons I cannot find out from the code. Can someone help me find it?}} —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 05:51, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Fixed --Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 06:44, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

he lost her but reverted all my edits & somehow that was everything[edit]

raise ur hands if you know about the 1989 secret messages. Evidently @Joseph Prasad: doesn’t think they exist.—Kelvinsong talk 03:35, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Just because people know about it, does not mean it does not need to be sourced. Again, that would make it fan interpretation. -- Joseph Prasad (talk) 03:38, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Kelvinsong, adding fancruft is against this encyclopedia's policies. Please stop edit warring Joseph Prasad on this. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 05:03, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
I wasn’t edit warring? When I restored all the material @Joseph Prasad: removed, I put in like 4000 characters worth of references, which he just reverted. The only time I reverted without making any changes was to undo his revert bc it was on the basis that I didn’t cite anything which I in fact did if he bothered to read the diff…
Also secret messages are not fancruft—as has been addressed so many times, they are directly sourced from the album itself, and third party media outlets confirmed them. Not interpretations.—Kelvinsong talk 14:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
IndianBio's comment was more of a general notice than anything else, Kelvin. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:24, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

@Kelvinsong, Joseph Prasad, IndianBio, and SNUGGUMS: Oh my god, such idiots. "Fan interpretation". Yeah, right idiots. We have a reliable source here, and so stop quarreling. I'm adding that in with this source and bye. BTW it really is a secret message, holy hell. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi!:) Am new here, SO, pls excuse if this is not where to post, BUT, `tis quite too 'taxing' to navigate this site, ESPECIALLY when not paid to do so...Anywho, Taylor's "Style" reachd #1 on Billboard's charts & I properly edited & SVed as so yestaday! SO, da user who doesn't have da guts to sign deir name(ONLY a user#...) to da unjust, 'undo', dey did to all my work yestaday: I STRONGLY suggest u to 'KNOCK IT OFF!' as 'The Truth' HAS a 'hand' YOU CAN'T EVER OUTREACH OR OVERCOME!... I SINCERELY hope this concludes my business here... Peace Anyways, "--Da Famous Teddy R. (talk) 12:46, 24 June 2015 (UTC)Da_Famous_Teddy_R."


Question is File:TaylorSwiftWordmark2015.png actually PD-Textlogo? It’s not actually easily reproducible from the source font—Kelvinsong talk 22:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

@Kelvinsong: Em, derived from, as seen from the file description page?

Angels Smile[edit]

There is this song called "Angels Smile" created by Swifties, the fandom of Taylor Swift. I was just casually saying about creating an article of it on Twitter and the person who created the idea replied, asking if I had tried creating a Wikipedia article of the song. The song, as part of a project labelled "Swifties Charity Project" kicked off on October last year as part as a celebration to Taylor's birthday, stating Taylor as an inspiration to create this song, which took over 100 Swifties to make. The idea came from Twitter user (also a singer-songwriter known as Janey Quinn), whose profile is here, asked if I can create such an article. The many cons are that the song is not notable enough, it fails WP:NM and a piece of source came from BuzzFeed, but the whole thing was written by the user. Furthermore, the artist which is vaguely "Swifties", does not have an article on its own. It did not peak in charts, but peaked at iTunes charts (from the user's DM to me) that the song peaked at #6 in Vietnam. #40 in the Philippines, #65 in Thailand and #54 in United Kingdom. That's all. I thought that this idea is an interesting one, as all money collected will be donated to the Blood Cancer Research Foundation, but due to the lack of notability, I think the chances of having a lifespan for such an article would be close to zero. I think the idea is interesting as a whole, and the "reliable sources" thus can only be the Twitter users @JaneSwiftie and @SwiftiesCharity, as well as the Tumblr. I know that there is a high possibility that it will be rejected, but I'm trying to create such an article, not just for the sake of doing it, but for the sake of the fandom. I personally think this deserves an article, as such an unprecedented move should be noticed by the world. This isn't an advertisement, per WP:5. Thanks, Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 09:17, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I think you've answered your own question: the song is not notable no matter which Wikipedia notability standard you check. Sources are strictly primary and have an inherent COI. An encyclopedia doesn't base its contents on emotional or personal feelings, but on basic standards for inclusion. As you describe it, the article will not survive here. If there's a Taylor Swift wikia somewhere, you might want to see about including it there. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:10, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
@BlueMoonset: Oh yeah, thanks! The Taylor Swift wikia! Prob gonna ask the guy who created this thing. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 04:04, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Taylor's Feminism?[edit]

I was wondering if anyone had considered making a section for Taylor's feminist stance, since it is something she does promote and has developed as she has gotten older. Perhaps under her political views? She mentions it in quite a few interviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnkelly333 (talkcontribs) 18:05, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


Mean (song), an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:58, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride[edit]

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Let's get along people[edit]

User: Nahnah4, calling people idiots will not help anything, nor will you friend starting an edit war, can't we all get along? The page clearly says: *Assume Good Faith, and avoid Personal Attacks.

Have a great day! :D

--Luis Santos24 (talk) 12:56, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

@Luis Santos24: Hey, sorry for the (incredibly) late reply. I was a very immature person last year so I was naturally very pressed about the slightest of things. Therefore, I called people "idiots". I regret it now lmao. Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 10:26, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Taylor Swift#Singer-songwriter[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Taylor Swift#Singer-songwriter. Thanks. Calidum 01:15, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


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Petition to start a new article?[edit]

Taylor has this song, "Better Than Revenge", which is controversial due to the lyrics which shows traces of slut-shaming in the chorus and has become the centre of debate for quite some time. I was wondering if we should create an article about since it is notable due to the controversies that came along with her releasing the song. Any thoughts? Nahnah4 (talk | contribs | guestbook) 10:24, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Speak Now and Wonderstruck articles[edit]

hey everyone, still new to this wikiproject so excuse if this isnt the place to ask...but i wanted to see what you think of the Background section of Speak Now. whyy is it all about Fearless?? i posted on the talk page that the section Recording and title is a more appropriate Background section, no?

also i see on the to-do list is to clean up Wonderstruck. it doesnt have a stub template. does it even meet the general notability guidelines? Melodies1917 (talk) 15:27, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool[edit]

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Love Story[edit]


There has been an unofficial TikTok remix of "Love Story" gaining traction on the app. I was just wondering if we should give it attention in the "Love Story" page. It is already mentioned, but I don’t think it should even be there to begin with, as it is unofficial and Swift hasn’t endorsed it or anything yet. Thoughts??? Doggy54321 (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

It isn't due a mention in the lead. Though if it has charted somewhere, it's fine to add that to the chart section.--NØ 13:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks! I’ll make the appropriate edits! Doggy54321 (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

1989 World Tour Concert Film Deletion[edit]


The 1989 World Tour had a concert film to go along with it. Taylor Swift videography says it was an Apple Music exclusive. It has been taken down from Apple Music, and you cannot play it anymore. Should this be deleted or at least have a little blurb like "This was later taken down from Apple Music on (DMY)"? Thoughts?? Doggy54321 (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)


Hi, I'm a part of this project, but I'm unsure where am I supposed to keep watch of all the articles under its domain. I clicked on the WikiProject Watchlist link, but it seems broken; it's redirecting to a different website. Can someone help me? Thank you. BawinV (talk) 05:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@BawinV: sorry, just saw this now. The same thing happened for me 😩😩. It gave me a 404 error notice and then tried to redirect to another link but nothing loaded after a good 5 minutes. Oh well. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 20:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
I forgot even asking this and I'm flabbergasted that no one cared to reply me (until you came along) :"/ BawinV (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@BawinV: Lmao rip. I think the link has been broken for a long time now. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 21:05, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@Doggy54321: There are way too many Taylor Swift articles for us to add to our watchlists 😭 BawinV (talk) 21:12, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
@BawinV: here, maybe this will help. All albums, singles, songs, videography, tours, performances need to be watched, as well as the main page (obviously), all WikiProject pages and sub-pages, the awards/nominations page and Book:Taylor Swift. The latter is really helpful to navigate around articles, but it needs a major update. Hope this helps! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 21:21, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much!!! BawinV (talk) 05:36, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Speak Now[edit]

I’ve noticed that Speak Now#Background is entirely written based on Fearless (Taylor Swift album), with no mention of Speak Now anywhere. Could anyone re-write that section? I’m knee deep in schoolwork and can’t really make any major edits to Wikipedia right now, and that section staying there for two more days is a major inconvenience to readers. If someone could reconstruct that paragraph, that would be great. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 20:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Tour articles & access[edit]

The 1989 World Tour article, currently a good article nominee, and Lover Fest meet WP Accessibility goals. Propose to update the rest (5) of her tour articles for consistency (see WP:CONCERTS#Tables for specifics). If no one objects, I'll go ahead and make these changes. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Go ahead! Thanks so much! D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 16:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Done. The date entries in Taylor Swift's Reputation Stadium Tour#Shows were already formatted with style="text-align:center;". It's a matter of preference, so I left them in. However, it makes the table different from the rest of her tour articles, in which the dates are left-justified. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Taylor Swift's Reputation Stadium Tour § Standalone article for film[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Taylor Swift's Reputation Stadium Tour § Standalone article for film. D🎉ggy54321 (happy new year!) 01:36, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Singles of Folklore and Evermore[edit]

There's a discussion I started about the "Single" status of Exile, Betty, The 1, No Body No Crime and Coney Island here. Please take part. Thank You. BawinV (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Separate articles for Taylor's Version[edit]

Has a consensus been reached anywhere re the separation of notable-enough "Taylor's Version" albums/songs from their original album/song article? Fearless (Taylor's Version) has been split; Love Story (Taylor's Version) was split by someone earlier today but reverted... if not, a discussion should probably be initiated so everyone can know how to go forward, since there's six more albums of this coming! - Peterpie123rww (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Pinging users I see editing on TS articles often... Doggy54321; BawinV; ; JackReynoldsADogOwner - Peterpie123rww (talk) 17:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Albums: split all of them right away. Let's be honest: Taylor Swift is one of the biggest pop stars on the planet, and it feels like every time she breathes, there's an article about it. Obviously, there will be plenty of coverage for all the albums right away. As well, it's quite challenging to edit the album pages, as they're so big and it takes quite a bit to load.
  • Singles: split them right away as well. Anything mainstream will also receive loads of coverage from the media straightaway.
  • Anything else (promo singles, songs, the Vault songs): case by case basis. For some songs, Wikipedia already has articles on them, such as White Horse (song). In that case, I think the re-recorded version warrants a mention in the article (which can be seen if you look at #White Horse (Taylor's Version) or use the redirect White Horse (Taylor's Version)), but, unless the song receives significant coverage from reliable sources (unlikely for most, but it will probably happen for a couple tracks per album), I don't see why a split would be useful. For other songs like Hey Stephen, the 2008 version of the song doesn't even have an article to begin with, so, unless the song receives significant coverage, I don't think creating an article would be useful, especially when the original doesn't even have an article.
  • For now: Fearless (Taylor's Version), "Love Story (Taylor's Version)" and "You All Over Me" have all received enough coverage to warrant standalone articles. "Wildest Dreams" has only received coverage for the teaser in the trailer for Spirit Untamed, and I don't think that is enough to warrant a standalone article yet. However, I do think that a section in the article is warranted. All the other songs ("We Were Happy", "The Way I Loved You" and "The Best Day", for example) don't have any coverage yet. Sorry for the extra long explanation, I think it will be more helpful if I word-vomit now and don't have to repeat myself in the future, Hope this helps! D🐰ggy54321 (the Easter bunny has been summoned...) 17:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
I agree with you completely, I have just moved LS TV to its own article. It easily meets notability standards. Cheers - Peterpie123rww (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Awesome!! D🐰ggy54321 (the Easter bunny has been summoned...) 21:14, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Sticking to the current releases, as far as Fearless (TV) and Love Story (TV) are concerned, they both have garnered widespread notability more than enough to warrant separate articles. Therefore, I vote that they remain separate articles. Regarding future releases, I think we shall discuss it when the time comes; I'm pretty sure they all going to have to be separate articles, since everything Swift does generates a bunch of reviews/articles/commentaries. BawinV (talk) 19:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

"1989 (Taylor's Version)" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

Information.svg A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 1989 (Taylor's Version). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 20#1989 (Taylor's Version) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. D🐶ggy54321 (let's chat!) 12:56, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

RfC on reliability of Business Insider[edit]

Hello! I have started an RfC about the reliability of Business Insider for sourcing in music related articles. This would have some impact (albeit most likely minor) on all music related articles. Feel free to comment at the RfC. --TheSandDoctor Talk 14:27, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

Anyone have access to The 1989 World Tour Book?[edit]

Does anyone have the The 1989 World Tour Book and could look up something for me? If so, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request#The 1989 World Tour Book. Thanks! --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)