User talk:Aaron Liu

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Hi - just a comment on your closing of the discussion. While there's clearly a consensus to keep, I do not see that there's a consensus for speedy keep (numerically there were three SKs and four keeps). I made an explicit argument stating why speedy keep should not apply (referencing WP:CSK); ideally your close should indicate how you have assessed the arguments that produced a consensus for speedy keep as against keep. It's not that important an issue, as the result will remain unchanged, but consider that a WP:NAC which involves the application of WP:IAR (which WP:SNOW is a form of) should offer some detail of reasoning. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 04:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, a gentle heads up, please be aware not to bold text in closing as it interferes with the AfD stats tool: [1]. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 04:36, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got it, thanks. Amended. Aaron Liu (talk) 10:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to repeat myself, but please don't bold SNOW, it interferes with the AfD Statistics Tool. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 11:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification; I thought you meant how I manually unbolded "and". However, the tool correctly recognizes SNOW keeps (see "The wrong kind of snow") but lists them as speedy keeps.This is apparently intended behavior, and I do believe bolding the SNOW is a useful distinction. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Goldsztajn In fact, it was added like that because of a user request, despite Wikipedia:Speedy keep#What is not a speedy-keep. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:56, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I became aware of that too just now! Unfortunately, it is out of alignment with the guideline. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 14:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's an upstream bug. I'll revert this for now. One of their maintainers (apparently @0xDeadbeef, @Enterprisey, and @Legoktm) can add a separate row/column for SNOW later. Aaron Liu (talk) 17:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, can you clarify what's wrong with the tool and what needs fixing? Legoktm (talk) 17:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The tool currently treats "SNOW" the same as "speedy", which is out of line with the Wikipedia:Speedy keep#What is not a speedy-keep guideline. Aaron Liu (talk) 20:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aaron Liu, I just saw this AFD. You cast a "vote" here so you were involved. It was inappropriate for you to close this AFD. This closure could easily be contested at Wikipedia:Deletion review. This was not a good closure. Please do not ever close a discussion you are involved in unless you are the nominator and you are withdrawing your nomination. Liz Read! Talk! 06:17, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Aaron Liu - I think this has become somewhat contested now, given that you reverted my edit to the closure which I did so that the AfD tools records the outcome properly. Can I request that you to vacate your closure and let it be done by an admin? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 07:45, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me. I was of the impression that overwhelming consensus can still be reflected per all the reasons for SNOW. Also, I still stand by bolding "SNOW"; we should not be altering clarity just because an external tool has a bug. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:37, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi - thanks for reverting. I offer a small piece of unsolicited advice: be conscious that even times where something might seem obvious to you, reasonable people can reach different conclusions. This is particularly the case with NACs. And FWIW, while clearly there's an IAR element to SNOW, it's not something to be used to trump *all* gudielines/convention at the same moment (WP:NACD/WP:NACINV). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 14:44, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oct 7 Autoblock appeal

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This user's request to have autoblock on their IP address lifted has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.
Aaron Liu (block logactive blocksglobal blocksautoblockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))
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Block message:

Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Volkswalk". The reason given for Volkswalk's block is: "Vandalism-only account; see also filter log".


Accept reason: Based on WP:CHECKUSER technical evidence, I see no reason to believe you are related to that other account. I have lifted the autoblock. If this becomes a problem, please consider requesting WP:IPBE. Again based on the technical data I have in front of me, I think you'd be likely to receive IPBE if necessary. Hopefully it isn't necessary, though. Hopefully you are able to continue editing from this IP address(es) without problems. Yamla (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is a workplace network that over a thousand people use (and I can tell that the intended blockee is definitely lying about their location). I'd appeal via UTRS with a bit more details, but I'm not sure which button to use. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I went with a month of IPBE. Yamla is smarter than me, though. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A month of IPBE is a perfectly reasonable approach here. :) Happy editing, Aaron Liu. --Yamla (talk) 16:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awwww, thanks you two! Aaron Liu (talk) 17:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I think this is the first time Yamla accepted an unblock request on one of my blocks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:BiglyBT has a new comment

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:BiglyBT. Thanks! ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:29, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you think about User:Polygnotus/Scripts/SourceTable? When discussing if an article meets WP:GNG it can be useful to discuss sources and whether they are reliable, indepth and constitute significant coverage. If you like it we can add it to Wikipedia:User scripts/List and Wikipedia:Scripts++. Polygnotus (talk) 03:36, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Aman karnake on Mobile device (05:29, 20 October 2024)

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An iPhone and iPad - two examples of mobile devices

A mobile device or handheld computer is a computer small enough to hold and operate in hand. Mobile devices are typically battery-powered and possess a flat-panel display and one or more built-in input devices, such as a touchscreen or keypad. Modern mobile devices often emphasize wireless networking, to both the Internet and to other devices in their vicinity, such as headsets or in-car entertainment systems, via Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, cellular networks, or near-field communication.[1] --Aman karnake (talk) 05:29, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Aman karnake Hi! Would you like to ask something? Aaron Liu (talk) 12:27, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Iamsdbhosale (04:57, 24 October 2024)

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hello, Will you please help me to publish : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Iamsdbhosale/sandbox --Iamsdbhosale (talk) 04:57, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, as said on that page, you need to add secondary sources, a.k.a. media coverage. The AfC help desk and teahouse as linked on your talk page can help you with that (as well as the various formatting problems)! Aaron Liu (talk) 11:46, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, the depth of coverage on everything on Wikipedia is determined by the amount of Wikipedia:Reliable sources available to source the coverage. If there's no secondary sources, then we do (sometimes only nearly) no coverage. The submission you wrote has excess detail and looks more like an advert than an encyclopedic article.
Also, I noticed that you have a previously-blocked account, User:Sdbhosale. Please don't do that. Wikipedia doesn't want blocked editors just escaping their block by creating a new account; instead, it wants them to appeal blocks and know why they've been blocked and what not to do next time. Aaron Liu (talk) 11:53, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Original Barnstar
Thank you being my mentor - With Courtesy. Iamsdbhosale (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
awwww thx! Aaron Liu (talk) 11:44, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WordPress

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Thanks for correcting my mistake, I somehow didn't see it was already covered in the history section. ColinWoodsPot (talk) 01:50, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, it's fine. I added that part in the history section after/while reverting your addition lol. Just keep in mind in the future that it's usually better to not have an entire section devoted to criticism! Covering it in an integrated paragraph under history is usually enough. Hope you like this place! Aaron Liu (talk) 01:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming expiry of your ipblock-exempt right

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Hi, this is an automated reminder as part of Global reminder bot to let you know that your WP:IPBE right which gave you the ability to bypass IP address blocks will expire on 16:57, 7 November 2024 (UTC). If your IP is still blocked (which you can test by trying to edit when logged-out), please renew by following the instructions at the IPBE page; otherwise, you do not need to do anything. To opt out of user right expiry notifications, add yourself to m:Global reminder bot/Exclusion. Leaderbot (talk) 07:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Community Wishlist: What do you make of these ideas?

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Hello, the Community Wishlist has gathered a collection of wishes and suggestions over time, highlighting the need for better support and guidance for newcomers as they create articles, while also aiming to reduce frustration and reverts. These ideas have been grouped under the Article Creation Guidance Focus Area.

Improving newcomer workflows may be of interest to you hence you are invited to help us explore these wishes, join the discussion on the focus area’s collective talk page, and cast your vote if you think the focus area will be something useful to prioritise.

On behalf of the Community Tech team, STei (WMF) (talk) 14:57, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Scripting Barnstar
Your user script Watchlyst is hands down one of the best user scripts ever. Thanks for making it! — ‎‎‎hhypeboyh 💬✏️ 00:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
awww thx! Aaron Liu (talk) 00:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #178 is out: Rewriting the backend

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There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we discuss how the team is working hard to rewrite Wikifunctions' backend, to overcome some of the limits we encountered with the current language.

Want to catch up with the previous updates? Check our archive!

Also, we remind you that if you have questions or ideas to discuss, the next Volunteers' Corner will be held on November 4, at 18:30 UTC (link to the meeting).

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 13:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Iversen, Jakob; Michael Eierman (2014). Learning Mobile App Development: A Hands-on Guide to Building Apps with IOS and Android. Addison-Wesley. p. 3 – via Google Books.