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Is it my imagination, or is Macon edit warring to include the tabloid reference, violating ARBAP2 and 1RR? SPECIFICO talk 14:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SPECIFICO: -- In a manner of speaking he did. But the reliable sources noticeboard has proved him correct on this one.Steve Quinn (talk) 19:16, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@SPECIFICO: He's put it back in three times now within a period of 24 hours 42 minutes, after it was removed by three different editors. For now, I've edited my "analysis" of Mr. Allen's piece of manure a little and added it to the discussion Herostratus started on the Reliable sources/Noticeboard. I'll see what happens; I can't believe that the other editors have read the same article. I suspect/hope they've been discussing The Telegraph in general terms. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Steve Quinn: Your post here arrived while I was busy on the noticeboard thing. Please, read my comments there. I still think the question shouldn't have been whether the Telegraph is a reliable source, but whether the article/author is. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:30, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Space4Time3Continuum2x: Thanks. I will go over to the RSN ---Steve Quinn (talk) 19:39, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've commented on Arbcom Enforcement and RSN. The anti-Hillary comrades are experienced and devoted wikilawyers and with the Admins unwilling to cut to the core of their behavior, they will easily succeed in keeping all kinds of nonsense on WP until election day. SPECIFICO talk 21:01, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Page is now under restrictions per Talk:2016_United_States_election_interference_by_Russia#Active_arbitration_remedies.

Though it is interesting sourced info, suggest you self-revert this edit here, and instead bring to talk page to discuss. Sagecandor (talk) 08:43, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sagecandor: I moved it to the "Commentary and Reactions - Former CIA Officers Section" before I saw your post. I'll remove it and take it to the Talk section. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 09:04, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Was this an accidental mistake edit ? Sagecandor (talk) 07:39, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sagecandor: I have no idea what happened there. Most of that doesn't look like my edit. I tried to move your suggestion to the Talk page behind BobK's answer and then just added "done". Maybe something got mixed up with another editor saving something at the same time? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 07:44, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay no problem. Sagecandor (talk) 07:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for removing. Still don't know what happened. I did post another text around the time (I just put it in the Craig Murray section); don't see how I could have accidentally deleted an unconnected bunch of other editor's posts, but I guess I did unless Wikipedia has added pixies as editing feature. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 08:27, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Did you intend to be launching a formal RfC at Seth Rich talk? If so, I believe that you need to state a simple clear proposition, such as should your edit replace the previous text. I'm not sure whether this is needed, especially since no editor has yet disagreed with your edit, which seems to have obvious merit. Also if you wish this to be an RfC, there should be a separate "threaded discussion" section beneath the yes/no section of the RfC. SPECIFICO talk 15:28, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@SPECIFICO:No, just making a good-faith edit, removing errors, i.e., reward amounts, and adding half-sentence on verifiability of WL offer, according to source. I believe the RfC on whether to mention Burkman or not hasn't been closed, so I didn't mention him by name. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:36, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi the reason I ask is that the RfC template appears to have been placed above your recent message there. If that wasn't what you intended, perhaps it shouldn't have appeared. I'm not sure what makes that template show on a talk page. Just my observation. Up to you. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 15:44, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@SPECIFICO: Thanks. Learning by doing, AKA copying and pasting:). Removed the template, didn't quite manage to correct the "reference in a box". Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:03, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@SPECIFICO: Mea culpa. Thanks, added it now. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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For the edit summary here. I realized that it was simple mistake, but that simple mistake completely flipped the meaning of the sentence.Volunteer Marek (talk) 20:13, 7 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apology accepted, but it wasn’t really necessary; I jumbled the sentence. I was surprised, is all, to be mistaken for someone who would misrepresent sources to whitewash the actions of a Trump minion. That was a first! Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:16, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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reacting to your comment on Talk:German Americans in the American Civil War. You know that there is an American Civil War taskforce on the Military History project, right? Also, if you´re interested in learning and discussing about the civil war with likeminded people outside of wiki I can only recommend to take a look or join us at Civil War Talk. Regards ...GELongstreet (talk) 17:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Your redirect of Klanbake to the internet meme article was inappropriate because that page does not mention the term. I've redirected it to the specific section about the meme in the Democratic convention article, so readers will go straight to the debunking of the term instead of having to hunt around for it. I agree the plain redirect to the convention page was wrong. Fences&Windows 13:19, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Fences and windows: Thanks. I just wanted to get rid of that redirect fast and couldn't think of anything better to do short of deleting the redirect altogether and copying the paragraph from the convention article which would also have been inappropriate. Is this what you did: #REDIRECT 1924 Democratic National Convention#"Klanbake" meme (for future reference)? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:42, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's it. That's a new section created after the Washington Post article. Fences&Windows 17:54, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Just leaving a note as you edit in the area, and the last alert you received was in 2016. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You just restored a challenged edit here here. Specifically the removal of this "Trump's racially insensitive statements[270] have been condemned by many observers in the U.S. and around the world,". You also didn't leave an edit summary. I request that you restore this material until there is consensus to remove it, per the page editing restrictions.- MrX 🖋 14:47, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MrX I was actually partially undoing JFG's edit (and improving the structure while I was at it). Didn't notice that you had challenged his changes between the time I started writing and saved. I self-reverted. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:58, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I though it may have been an edit conflict. I had no problem with the rest of your edit and I'm happy to explain why I restored the portion quoted above. Thanks for self reverting.- MrX 🖋 15:10, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For my information, was this a case of a "copy edit" in which the meaning of the article text was changed without acknowledging this in the edit summary? I see a lot of this kind of editing and it's very confusing and results in lots of new article text insinuated in ways that are difficult to parse and difficult for editors to discuss and adjust after they're discovered. Did that happen in this case? SPECIFICO talk 15:11, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think Space4Time3Continuum2x was also challenging JFG's edit, but in a slightly different way. I'm guessing they started editing before I completed my edit which made it look like my edit was reverted.- MrX 🖋 15:21, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to restore the former content by combining two sentences and reinserting the deleted reference and simultaneously restructuring slightly, move Trump closer to his supporters, so to speak. And trying to keep track of everything in Wikipedia editor. Bad idea. Sorry about the confusion. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:30, 27 May 2018 (UTC) And then I simply forgot the edit summary. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:32, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that this kind of confusion or duplication of efforts, or actually one might say completely unnecessary repair job, is dues to insinuation of POV language under the guise of copy edits or minor edits that are routinely overlooked by experienced editors and tend to proliferate if not vigilantly checked and repaired. I think @Galobtter: just corrected another similar one in the lead section. SPECIFICO talk 15:54, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, in my case it was due to suspecting insinuation of POV language, not wanting to get into another lengthy argument, prolonged wrangling of Wiki text, forgetting the edit summary (I haven't found a way to add or correct it after hitting "send"), and forgetting to check whether other editors had made edits in the meantime. Keeping the faith! The POV will be weeded out eventually, the sockpuppets unmasked, and we'll all live happily ever after or until the next time, whichever comes first. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:59, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just to be clear, I was not saying that you cloaked your change of meaning. I was trying to avoid naming any other editor since I didn't know the full sequence of edits. I've raised a similar concern recently on the Trump article talk page. SPECIFICO talk 17:13, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, I got that:) I didn't want to name any names either. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. You have violated the 1RR restriction with these two reverts.
Further, you violated the requirement for talk page consensus for challenged edits with this revert. The image has been in the article for months and its removal was challenged, therefore talk page consensus is required to remove it.
As I see it you need to do two self-reverts. ―Mandruss ☎ 16:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Mandruss: Rodman - When and where was the removal of the picture challenged? There was a brief discussion before the removal, ending with So remove the image of Rodman. As for leader of the free world, seems odd for a president who's motto is "America First". O3000 (talk) 21:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC), the picture was removed, and two days later an editor reinserted it. Shouldn't that editor have discussed the reinsertion? As for the other two, I didn't regard changing the size of an image as a revert. I'll revert that for now and wait for your response on Rodman. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:31, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware of O3000's comment, but one comment does not constitute a consensus. For the purposes of the ArbCom restrictions, that comment and the other editor's failure to discuss can be ignored (the other editor also was very likely unaware of the comment).
As for the image size, a reversal of any fairly recent edit is a revert as I understand the term—it certainly is not limited to prose or matters that people might deem "substantive". Experience tells us it would be a very bad idea to start blurring that line, as the cost would exceed the benefit as editors tailored their definitions of "substantive" to suit their immediate objectives. That revert was clearer than many, since it wasn't a "partial" or "sort of" reversal—it reversed all of the edit and did nothing more—and the time interval was well outside the gray area. ―Mandruss ☎ 18:03, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Mandruss: I have self-reverted the removal of the Rodman picture but you haven't answered my question about when and where its original removal was challenged. I still think the original removal was the challenge, and B dash was in violation of 1RR when he/she reverted it without discussion. The challenged removal of long-standing content had nothing to do with the picture, it was about text. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I still think the original removal was the challenge - I think you're confusing content with edit. The ArbCom restriction is about challenged edits, not challenged content. Once content has been in the article for a certain amount of time (admin NeilN has suggested 4–6 weeks, IIRC, and that image has been in the article for longer than that), its removal is not a challenge-by-reversion but simply a BOLD edit.
I'm starting the discussion to seek consensus to remove; please participate there. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:42, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mandruss is correct. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 20:05, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mandruss, NeilN I stand corrected. Thanks for letting me self-revert. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:36, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your comments, here and here, inspired me into doing a bit of research as to why using time/date stamps on a busy TP doesn't work as well as providing the actual diffs, so I asked the experts and thought it might prove helpful to share it with you. ^{Atsme📞📧} 18:45, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

atsme I haven't spent much time looking under Wikipedia's hood, and I'm used to working with UTC. I assumed that everybody was using and seeing UTC, or I would have copied & pasted UTC in parentheses along with the time & date. What does the system show between the parentheses when you're using local time, CDT? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:17, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It shows (UTC-5) which is CDT. ^{Atsme📞📧} 17:28, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This has now been closed, and as far as I can tell your proposed language was the best most recent version and should be placed in the article. Seems like you would be best equipped to do so. SPECIFICO talk 19:36, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SPECIFICO Thanks for the vote of confidence :). There hasn't been any reaction to my last proposal (version D, substituting "improper entry" for "unlawfully crossing") so I don't feel all that anointed. When I have more time than right now, I'll try to come up with a version without the "factual inaccuracies" Neutrality pointed out. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:24, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Continued from Talk:Donald Trump#Treatment of facts, since the usual Trump apologists have shut down a discussion they don't like. They often do this to head off the development of a consensus for an article.

Your comment:

I doubt that Trump has any relationship – dubious or otherwise – with truth, facts, or reality but RS do not use "lie", verb or noun. WaPo's latest Fact Checker analysis (Sep 13) counting more than "5000 false or misleading claims" uses "lying" once, and it's not about Trump ("One of his campaign aides has pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI". Until they do, we're stuck with false and misleading, I think. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 18:14, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

There are many RS which use the words "lie(s)", "lying", and "liar" about Trump. There has been a very high level debate among editors of RS as to whether they should use those words, and some have just decided to start doing it, and others won't. So it all depends on the source, and we do use the words used by RS. Here's a section about that very subject. It's rough and not ready for use, but is part of an article I am preparing, all based on hundreds of RS. No article on the subject will ever exist if Trump's apologist continue to get their way. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 00:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@BullRangifer: I'll get back to you when I have more time. Just this for now: I once tried to add one or two reliably sourced sentences on the "Swedish" descent of the family. They were deleted pretty much immediately with the reasoning that they made the article too long, if I remember correctly. Here's a recent article calling Trump a serial liar. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 04:36, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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That huge chunk of "achievements" text on the Chao page is most likely by COI accounts who are adding flattering content about here. It should just be removed in full. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 21:11, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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It's not a really big deal, but since you said "per Mandruss" I wanted to make sure you understood that my preference was to accept the duplicate and keep the bundle at 6. If you understand that and disagree, I defer to your judgment. ―Mandruss ☎ 07:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mandruss: I understand and, in this case, I prefer the separate ref because it saves 199 bytes. Every little bit helps, in view of article length complaints/flags. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 08:19, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Mandruss: Thanks. I'll defend the semicolon to my last dying breath. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:12, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Biden says he doesn't remember Reade, not doesn't remember her working for him, see citation. We also know the year, and who's who. Did you mean this summary for something else, POV-related? InedibleHulk (talk) 09:56, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

InedibleHulk I got called away. I just finished editing Talk. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 10:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, I'll see it. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, long talk page so I can’t find the ping on mobile. Only to the image. The captain can be worked out through the normal editing and talk page process. Likely doesn’t need an RfC :) TonyBallioni (talk) 15:06, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TonyBallioni: OK, thanks. I'll edit and see what happens. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:13, 23 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixed it. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 07:39, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the full article in an easier link without all the ads and videos. It's still not substantial imo but figured you'd want to see it. Praxidicae (talk) 12:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Praxidicae. Just as I thought—Trump endorsement, viral ad, no bio. Fun read 'though: less than 10 percent of the residents of the "disgusting, rodent-infested Baltimore city portion" voted for her. Must have been tough finding some of them for soundbites in her video. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:50, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As someone who lives in her district, if I were to walk up to 10 random people and ask them about her, they’d have no clue what I’m talking about. Praxidicae (talk) 19:15, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Praxidicae: "her district"—the 7th, the 6th, or the 2nd? When WJZ asked her about not residing in the 7th District she said that she lives in "Middle River which is the 6th District". From looking at the map, seems to me, 'though, that Middle River is in Maryland’s 2nd Congressional District? Always a pleasure to have tourists come to your city and look for the "Urban Horror" neighborhood for whatever agenda they’re pushing. In this case, scripted reality (aka fiction) courtesy of Turning Point USA’s Benny Johnson. Snopes dissected the ad: cherry-picked location, filmed repeatedly from different angles, claiming that it was a random walk through the city. Seems fairly obvious that she’s not seriously running for office. She’s applying for Omarosa’s job as Token Black Woman at the WH or a paying job on Fox. Either way, she’s got the mandatory look down. The AfD currently seems to be heading towards "keep." Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:29, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The district she's running for is 7th but you are correct that she does not live in it (or even near it...) which apparently is not a requirement for congressional seats...Praxidicae (talk) 16:32, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In this edit, the URL for The Brooklyn Daily Eagle is incorrect and duplicates that of the preceding cite. ―Mandruss ☎ 12:36, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Mandruss. I corrected the URL. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 12:47, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! ―Mandruss ☎ 12:52, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to give you props for the TPUSA work. It's a mess of an article but I think you are doing a really good job of pushing the content towards impartial presentation. I think many confuse trying to be impartial with outright whitewashing. Anyway, thumbs up. Springee (talk) 13:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Springee. You made my day. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:08, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My honors were misstated on a book jacket the other way, repeated endlessly wrong until my next book was published. Otherwise excellent projection on the Ivanka Trump talk page as if you speak for the honors classes of the country. 2601:46:C801:B1F0:49C6:4C51:38BB:C569 (talk) 20:53, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 05:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re this edit, why? |newspaper= is an alias of |work=, so there is no difference in what readers see. What is the benefit of changing the coding at a cost of 1,111 bytes? ―Mandruss ☎ 10:18, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Mandruss: It is? Maybe I'm confusing this with your cite cleanups of "cite web". I reverted. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 10:22, 10 October 2020 (UTC) @Mandruss: Oh, rats, that didn't work, will have to do it manually. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 10:26, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm not married to the cite news idea and I only do that since the guidance says to use cite news for web-based news sources. In contrast, the guidance doesn't say to use |newspaper= for web-based newspapers, necessarily, and one could hold the opinion that it should only be used for paper newspapers. That and the other |work= aliases (website, etc) exist primarily to give editors something to argue about. ―Mandruss ☎ 10:33, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there. Regarding this edit, who are you referring to that gave the reason for removing this text as "removing"? I certainly had not given that as a reason, and was not the reason I did so. Please self-revert. Thanks. Onetwothreeip (talk) 05:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Onetwothreeip, I believe this was your edit? I objected to the removal of the section which has been in the article for over six months. (Another editor also objected and reinserted it; the duplicate has since been removed.) When the removal of long-standing content is objected to, the editor wanting to remove it must discuss the removal on the talk page, AFAIK. There have been several previous discussions already, and the incident is receiving renewed attention because of the contrast with what happened at the Capitol. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 21:16, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That was my edit and nowhere did I state the reason for removing it was "removing" it, so please don't misrepresent me in the future. The objection was made after I had removed it, not before. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:28, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Onetwothreeip, I had no reason to object to the removal before it took place. You edit summary said "removing standalone Lafayette Square section. Could maybe add a mention of it somewhere." That does not explain why you removed it. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 21:34, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's correct, it does not. You shouldn't have represented that a reason was given. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:37, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, don't know what happened there. Editing on my mobile and must have misclicked along the way.Pipsally (talk) 17:22, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, Pipsally. I just wondered why you removed the digit—I had initially typed the name without it and later corrected the typo. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 17:37, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I notice that in this edit [3] you cut a bit about the recently disclosed details of POTUS condition being far worse than the contemporaneouos messaging. I think that made clear that "later revaled" meant MUCH later. Is there some way you could add some words that retain the meaning. Thanks for all your recent work on this article. SPECIFICO talk 16:15, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SPECIFICO, I added the specifics. I didn't like "upbeat" and "worrisome" and figured the sentence still conveyed the same message without the clause. But you're right, it was missing the part about the seriousness of Trump's condition having been withheld. Here's the rest of the story. (Now I'll probably hear "too much detail":).

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@MJL:, @Blue Square Thing: Thanks for your help. It was my first effort at splitting a page. Couldn't figure out how to get rid of the REDIRECTs, despite reading HELP and not for lack of trying, and then apparently things went downhill from there (BE, etc.) Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 06:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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You have violated the following editing restriction: "If an edit you make is reverted you must discuss on the talk page and wait 24 hours before reinstating your edit." Self revert immediately. Also the significance for his life and Presidency is that the Accords were his major foreign policy success during his time as President and led to him getting recognition as a pro-Israel President. You know, literally what the sources all say?! Davefelmer (talk) 15:52, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dave, FWIW, you seem to do a lot of tough controversial edits to article text w.o. getting talk page consensus. This is likely to be frustrating and unproductive. I suggest you do the right thing and try to gain talk page buy-in. RS do not elevate this to the level you claim, IMO. SPECIFICO talk 16:14, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Moving this to Donald Trump talk page. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:58, 7 April 2021 (UTC) The editor is mistaken. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:40, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the "paywalled" link, note that Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library provides access to certain web resources, including several newspaper archives. These are invaluable for work on historical figures (as with my recent work expanding John T. Newton, and my previous effort writing Charles Erasmus Fenner), but can provide access to some print resources that are still hard to find online for contemporary figures. Cheers! BD2412 T 18:43, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@BD2412: Thanks! 5 years on WP, and I didn't know about the library. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 11:11, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about this. I thought reftalks go at the bottom of sections. My bad. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 07:04, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr.Swag Lord, Ph.d: AFAIK, the template needs to be added to each post if you want to use complete cites. Putting it underneath your signature is OK as long as nobody puts any edits between your signature and the template. Then it gets shuffled towards the end of the section or the page, and long discussions become difficult to read. It's safer to put the template on its own line between the text and the signature. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 07:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding this... I noticed it because of this edit. -- Valjean (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Valjean: Seems I blamed myself for something PackMecEng did :) Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:02, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhhh no you don't! I was just undoing an edit by Soibangla. It went back to the version here. PackMecEng (talk) 16:04, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

PackMecEng Yep, you did. And in this edit, the one before your revert to Muboshgu's, Soibangla had added the title to the deprecated cite. No worries, I have since filled in the rest of the cite. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I really should not use the restore this version button. That one does nothing but get me in trouble! PackMecEng (talk) 16:10, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Elizium23: If you don't agree with an edit I make in an article, please discuss on the talk page of the article instead of making a general accusation on my talk page. I summarized my edit here, then you added a POV tag which was promptly reverted as tendentious tagging by another editor. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Space4Time3Continuum2x, I have been discussing quite clearly on the talk page, which is why my tag should not have been reverted. Elizium23 (talk) 13:16, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Elizium23: You didn't agree with what appears to me to be the consensus and went ahead and used the version you thought best, and when I reversed it you tagged the consensus version as POV—way to cooperate. "seems vague but whatever" isn't much of an argument. BTW, I wasn't involved in the "it was reported/reportedly" vs "X and Y reported" discussion. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you accuse GiantSnowman of vandalism in this edit? I'm not even sure why you undid his edit at all.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:01, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23: explanation here. However, I cannot see any Swastika here??? GiantSnowman 14:04, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not 100% sure, but from looking at the Help desk, it appears that some templates were vandalized that caused swatsikas. Perhaps when Space4 looked at the version of the article after your edit, one of those templates made it look like you had done it. Now the template has been fixed, and so the same thing looks okay. That's the best I can do.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:07, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bbb23, GiantSnowman, I didn't accuse the editor, I asked whether the overlay had anything to do with their edit. I don't see the overlay now when I look at the differences but it was there before I reverted, and I went backward and forward through the history a couple of times before reverting. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:08, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bbb23, GiantSnowman, thanks. I was going to revert my revert but someone already did. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:12, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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FormalDude, what was the outcome? The incident was archived but there doesn't seem to have been a closure. Does that mean it died of old age? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:22, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It does indeed mean it died of old age. (talk page watcher) –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:25, 22 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Good evening, just thought I'd inform you that the recent David Rubenstein Show interview with General Milley provided a lot of background information on him. If possible, there might be some details worth adding to his article. SuperWIKI (talk) 16:43, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SuperWIKI: thanks for pointing out the source. I'm generally a bit uncomfortable with interpreting primary sources like interviews of subjects, especially "soft" interviews by non-journalists like Rubenstein, without finding secondary sources. I just added some early life info and a link to the interview—it's a bit awkward, what with the long infobox on the right side. What details were you thinking of including? (And it might be better to continue this discussion on the talk page of Mark Milley in case other editors want to weigh in.) Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 11:39, 31 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LemonJuice78 never responds to pings, either here or on his talk page, and I don't see any indication that attitudes have changed in response to any of these. See here for further detail. SuperWIKI (talk) 10:31, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SuperWIKI, I don't know what to do, either. It's difficult to AGF when an edit like this one, for example, is trivia and seems to be mostly invented—I've read and own both books, and I went back and checked, they're definitely not the sources. Some edits appear to be pranks, like this one. "Center" and "777x777px"—who does that? They've been editing on WP for 18 months and haven't written a single edit summary so far. I don't recall having come across them on any other page, so I guess I'll just revert and complain on the Milley talk page if they do it again, hoping an admin will take notice of their behavior. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 12:31, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, how is a ref name a prank? (Never mind, misclick) SuperWIKI (talk) 12:34, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Go look at all the 2001-and- beyond Air Force four star general bio pages, and the pages of a multitude of Milley's predecessors as CJCS, like Earle Wheeler. Fingerprints all over those. They're so expansive that I can't fix all of them. Most notably, I think he's done the required reading on these topics but the misinterpretation of such content is bad enough to counteract that. SuperWIKI (talk) 12:38, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wow, feeling the amazement due to causing his edit condition gone worse. They're citing the WorldCat search page again instead of any actual source. According to the Arlington Cemetery website, the son's name was Gilmore "Bim" Wheeler, not Dwayne, no daughter mentioned as surviving her mother in 2004. I just reverted the edit. Does the editor seem to be following you around to pages you've edited? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 13:21, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

With the exception of this one page where he kept adding Air Force photos at a disproportionate rate (I wanted to keep it equal among services), no. Honestly, it's more like I follow him around now trying to clean up after him. I don't want to disparage him in any way beyond possible WP:CIR, since I don't know the actual conditions on his end. SuperWIKI (talk) 13:45, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Air Force fan, maybe, unhappy that Army is still the bigger service and that Air Force general Goldfein lost the prestigious top job to Milley ? I think that Juice's editing is borderline disruptive (here's hoping that it's a passing phase and that they'll grow out of it), and, if I come across it, I'll revert and write a complaint, on their Talk page next time. In your place, I'd do the same. There's a lot of crap on Wikipedia. You fix it when you happen to come across it but it's not your responsibility to search for and fix all of it. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 14:12, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I rarely have a lot of time on my hands so I have to set priorities when editing pages on Wikipedia, since I have my own set to update. Big problem for me there is that I get this really bad twitch in my muscles whenever I see badly-written or incorrect edits, knowing I can't correct all of them. It's so bad that I've had to unfollow a whole bunch of pages because Juice made such big additions to them it's hard not to notice. It took a whole afternoon to fix a page that Juice added content to, General Mark D. Kelly. The fact that Juice's edits aren't noticed by a majority of people is irking me more, but again Wikipedia is a big encyclopaedia. I just hope someone with time and experience on their hands can do some massive edits someday. SuperWIKI (talk) 14:32, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, priorities and time—dito. If you have a list of pages that need weeding, I'll take a whack at it 'though it may take some time. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:34, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I will give you a list in time. Do note though, that among his disruptive edits, there are a lot of meaningful content additions that Lemon has added, if overshadowed by the poor English and (intentional?) misinterpretations of the facts. If the sources that add new content are deemed reliable by you, I would recommend not completely undoing those edits by LemonJuice and simply rewording, condensing and correcting them where necessary. SuperWIKI (talk) 02:44, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. "Air Force fan, maybe, unhappy that Army is still the bigger service and that Air Force general Goldfein lost the prestigious top job to Milley". I recently reported a guy who sockpuppeted just for that reason here. SuperWIKI (talk) 14:34, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Space4Time3Continuum2x He's back at it. Going to bed. SuperWIKI (talk) 15:53, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, Continuum? I don't think it worked. He went straight back to worldcatting William Westmoreland when the ban was lifted. Also shoehorning the Milley selection as CJCS into A Very Stable Genius and I Alone Can Fix It. SuperWIKI (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, great. Pinging Acroterion and Neutrality. The addition to "Stable Genius" is unsourced. The book mentions Milley exactly once, in a sentence saying that Mattis's replacement Shanahan liked to bring Dunford or Milley to any substantive meetings. In "I alone", the editor moved one sentence from the section where it belongs into one where it doesn't and added a chunk of text to the "Contents" section that made it appear as if the book was mostly about how Milley allegedly got to be CJCoS. Westmoreland: I don't have the time right now to compare before and after Juice's editing but I will, and I'll get ahold of Sorley to see if the book is a source for any of the edits. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 19:04, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the list I have so far (from most recent edits to earliest). Some of these may be relevant and only require condensation of image captions, fixing citations and complying with WP:SOB standards:

SuperWIKI (talk) 09:46, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SuperWIKI: good lord, from Jimmy Carter to Rumsfeld's memoirs—a book I'm not planning to read—the editor's sure been busy. I should have known better, forgot about "never volunteer". Hope you don't mind that I hatted the list. Alright, I'll start at the top and add a when I start on a page and another one when I'm done. Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 18:13, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. LemonJuice came back as a sock account and made some big edits, thankfully to pages on the list you haven't checked yet. I shut that down real quick. SuperWIKI (talk) 15:24, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SuperWIKI, I can go back and check. What was the name of the sock account, and how did you figure it out? Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 15:27, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here. Goodnight.SuperWIKI (talk) 16:03, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

When adding {{citation needed}}, that date is specified as "month year". There is no "day, ". MB 22:10, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

MB, that's what I used to do until someone corrected me. OK, I'll revert to "month year". Space4Time3Continuum2x (talk) 22:12, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I already fixed them. The date puts it into a category such as Category:Articles with unsourced statements from November 2021. Adding a day here is definitely wrong. The day does go in {{citation}} templates where you are specifying a source (if there is a day the source was published). MB 22:19, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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