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Rachel and the Stranger is a 1948 film that is set in early America (post Revolutionary war) in the Northwest Territory. For you who don't know what that is, it is a territory that existed from 1787-1803 and became the states of Indiana, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and part of Minnesota. The reason I am mentioning it here is the article calls it a western. I don't think a film that takes place that early and is set east of the Mississippi, albeit in what was then a frontier, should be labeled as a western. I just thought I would throw this out to get a second (and maybe third) opinion before I changed it. Thanks. rogerd (talk) 17:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd think you could harmonize it with The Last of the Mohicans (1992 film) (both versions, actually). They're classed as action drama or historical action drama. Just my thought. Intothatdarkness 17:42, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While "frontier" films often find themselves dumped into the Westerns bucket for lack of a better genre categorization, it should be noted that the Western genre is not specifically limited to cowboy films. Yes, there is the classic Western, but the Western genre has specific themes and tropes that define the genre outside of the traditional setting of the Western US. That being said, I'm not familiar with the specific film in question. What does the AFI say about it? ButlerBlog (talk) 19:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At the end of last year's marathon discussions on capitalization of Westerns, the last attempt was withdrawn since we had had several discussions that ultimately closed with consensus not to move (it was a page move request that involved lowercasing, so, it was to not lowercase Westerns). This was endorsed by a move review request. A few short weeks later, there was an attempt to reopen discussion yet again. That was withdrawn as it was essentially too soon, but it was noted by the opener that he would bring it up again in March.

My position on this can vary, and I don't necessarily seek input specifically to support uppercasing. But, what I believe is important is that the discussion focus on Westerns as a whole genre, rather than individual page titles, which is being done essentially as a back door to leverage wholesale changes across the board. There also needs to be more involvement than just the MOS participants. If there is not broad participation for the genre as a whole, it's going to come up again and again.

I was hoping for some pre-participation from the Film project. So far, no replies. I'm not sure why that is - maybe venue. I am inviting discussion and input there, as this has wide reaching impact. A consensus to lowercase will require broad changes to this project. A consensus to uppercase will create a good deal of work as well as there is a lot of capitalization inconsistency throughout articles (mostly film articles).

If you have input on this - and I hope you do - please indicate such at that discussion rather than here (linked here): Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Seeking input on process (discussion about whether to have a discussion) ButlerBlog (talk) 15:43, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Meek's Cutoff (film)#Requested move 4 March 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:49, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Please note that Once Upon a Time in the West, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of the Articles for improvement. The article is scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing! Delivered by — MusikBot talk 00:05, 26 August 2024 (UTC) on behalf of the AFI team[reply]

Wild Arms (video game) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 13:39, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]