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- Thank you for this review. I will edit the article to be more careful. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 06:14, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
เลิกเบียว
[edit]เลิกเบียวได้เเล้วเด็กน้อย พวกบ้าการเมือง ถ้าจะเเก้ให้มี รมต.ช่วย ก็ต้องเเก้ทุกคนไล่ย้อนไป 10 ปี ถ้าขี้เกียจทำ ก็อย่าเเก้ ทำอะไรให้มันเหมือนกัน ไม่ใช่จะเเก้เฉพาะรัฐบาลนี้ จะเเก้ต้องเเก้ทุกวัน ไม่งั้นคนมา research จะงง ว่าทำไมทำเเต่ รมต.เพื่อไทยเป็นหลัก หันอ่านกฎบ้านเด็กน้อย 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:35C8:94F6:DF34:FC2C (talk) 07:43, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- เเล้วอย่าใส่ข้อมูลส่วนบุคคลในหน้า user page มันอันตรายนะเด็กน้อย 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:35C8:94F6:DF34:FC2C (talk) 07:45, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- คุณกำลังก่อกวนการแก้ไข คุณไปดูมาเลเซียซิ ถ้าคุณรับไม่ได้ก็หลับตาครับ เหตุผลที่คุณเขียน มันเขียนเอามัน และอีกอย่าง ผมไม่มีพี่ชายแบบคุณ อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 09:48, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- และผมก็เตือนคุณไปแล้วว่า อย่าลบ คุณก็ไม่หยุด ถ้าคุณไม่หยุดทผมจะบล๊อกคุณ อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 09:49, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- ผมว่าคุณกำลังอันตรายมากกว่า เพราะคุณเป็น ไอพี ซึ่งสามารถค้นหาได้ว่าคุณอยู่ไหน ส่วนผมต่อให้ใส่ข้อมูลส่วนตัว แต่ผมไม่ได้ที่อยู่ ก็ไม่สามารถรู้ว่าผมอยู่ไหน อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 09:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- การใส่ข้อมูลวิกิพีเดีย ต่อให้ข้อมูลแต่หน้ามีไม่ทั้งหมด แต่คุณก็ไม่ควรที่จะลบมัน จำไว้การเขียนวิกิพีเดีย ต้องมีมารยาท ไม่ใช่เหน็บแนมคนอื่น อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 09:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- ถ้าคุณไม่พอใจและรับไม่ได้ คุณก็เลิกเขียน อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 09:52, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- ที่ผมบอกไป อยากจะให้รู้ว่า การแก้ไข ต้องทยอยแก้ไข แทนที่คุณจะช่วยกันแก้ แต่คุณกับลบมันออก ซึ่งมันทำให้ผมต้องเสียเวลา ยุคไหนมีรัฐมนตรีช่วย ผมก็ใส่ ถ้าไม่มีผมก็ไม่ใส่ อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 10:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- ผมเข้าใจว่ามันเป็นสาระนุกรมเสรี แต่สิ่งที่คุณทำ คุณกำลังทำลายบทความวิกิพีเดีย แทนที่คุณจะร่วมกันเพิ่มข้อมูลให้ครบ แต่คุณกลับลบมันออก เพราะขัดตาคุณ โดยใช่เหตุผลบางหน้าว่า ผมขี้เกียจเขียน ผมเคยย้อนไปดูประวัติการแก้ไขของบทความนั้นๆแล้ว มันเคยมีมานานแล้ว แต่พอคุณเห็น คุณกลับลบมันออก อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 10:09, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Dear user ~ ToBeFree, I want to report that อย่ามาตบะ has violate Wikipedia's harassment policy. With the message of "ผมว่าคุณกำลังอันตรายมากกว่า เพราะคุณเป็น ไอพี ซึ่งสามารถค้นหาได้ว่าคุณอยู่ไหน" it means "I think you're more dangerous because you're an IP that can find out where you are". From this message, I feel like I was threatened and may be harmed by this user. Can I report this incident for my own safety? 58.8.170.142 (talk) 10:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not intimidating. But I would like to say that IP is addressable. And I told him to apply but he didn't. And he also said, He knew my personal information even though I didn't write the address. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 10:19, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- And I don't think that cutting off the warning in my best wishes would go against the community rules. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 10:24, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- And thank you for your warning. I will warn him more carefully. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 10:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Dear user ~ ToBeFree, I want to report that อย่ามาตบะ has violate Wikipedia's harassment policy. With the message of "ผมว่าคุณกำลังอันตรายมากกว่า เพราะคุณเป็น ไอพี ซึ่งสามารถค้นหาได้ว่าคุณอยู่ไหน" it means "I think you're more dangerous because you're an IP that can find out where you are". From this message, I feel like I was threatened and may be harmed by this user. Can I report this incident for my own safety? 58.8.170.142 (talk) 10:12, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I also found that อย่ามาตบะ and User contributions for 2001:FB1:9A:7BDE:C9DB:65FE:A1A9:FD91 is also the same user that violate on Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry policy. You can check at Sutin Klungsang article to investigate the same action for this two user doing the same thing. Please Investigate this ~ ToBeFree. Also Thank 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:90F8:72B8:9761:B25B (talk) 12:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- นี้คุณจะเอาชนะผมเลยหรอ คุณไปอ่านกฎใหม่ ไอพีมันเปลี่ยนได้ตลอต ไอ้ที่เขาหมายถึงคือบัญชีไม่ใช่ไอพีครับ ไอพีมันเปลี่ยนได้ตลอด อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 12:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Please use English for discussing in English Wikipedia 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:90F8:72B8:9761:B25B (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- นี้คุณจะเอาชนะผมเลยหรอ คุณไปอ่านกฎใหม่ ไอพีมันเปลี่ยนได้ตลอต ไอ้ที่เขาหมายถึงคือบัญชีไม่ใช่ไอพีครับ ไอพีมันเปลี่ยนได้ตลอด อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 12:42, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I also found that อย่ามาตบะ and User contributions for 2001:FB1:9A:7BDE:C9DB:65FE:A1A9:FD91 is also the same user that violate on Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry policy. You can check at Sutin Klungsang article to investigate the same action for this two user doing the same thing. Please Investigate this ~ ToBeFree. Also Thank 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:90F8:72B8:9761:B25B (talk) 12:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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- Then you can stop deleting the data. If you don't want to be at war อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Dear User:HJ Mitchell, I was harassed and threatened by the user of this account, forbidding any editing and not listening to other people's opinions by undoing Wikipedia articles. 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:90F8:72B8:9761:B25B (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I understand it's a free encyclopedia. But if any position is specified which has the effect of the constitution or act It shouldn't be deleted. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 12:53, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think you should stop. All you are doing is seeking attention. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 12:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Dear User:HJ Mitchell, I was harassed and threatened by the user of this account, forbidding any editing and not listening to other people's opinions by undoing Wikipedia articles. 2001:FB1:5D:4A19:90F8:72B8:9761:B25B (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
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On the prime minister list
[edit]Hi อย่ามาตบะ listen you have done a lot of good edits on the list but you need to put the military leaders back acting prime ministers are important they should be treated like regular prime ministers . You can put a yellow backround to mark them are as acting as an example look the presidential list of the president of Gabon article as for the reverts 2409:4052:71c:2f26::1e3e:38a5 is not me there is a number of people who are doing bad edits . If you see my history i have reverted edits by acounts like this one . You should request someone to lock the article so that only people with accounts can edit it . Anyway tell me what you think also take care and happy editing Friendlyhistorian (talk) 15:42, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
- I understand that, but those acting military leaders His team is not the Cabinet. But I have reduced the size and saved space. But some acting officials are still under the Cabinet.
- Ex. List of Prime Minister of Japan อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 15:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
2024 Pakistani general election
[edit]Hi, I've undone your edit where you removed Imran Khan's independent candidates from the infobox. Have you seen the ongoing discussion on the Talk page regarding this matter? You referenced the 2021 Tongan general election, but I believe the situation in Pakistan is different. These independent candidates are supported by PTI/Imran Khan and are being identified as such in reliable sources. Saqib (talk) 10:20, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please do not arbitrarily change data before 2022 until the discussion is concluded. The data you change is probably something that people will disagree about, and that will be done in a discussion. Until these discussions are "finished" and a conclusion is reached, such information must be "previous." In other words, the "problem that the Netherlands in 2022 will be classified in the same way as Norway" was changed based on your own judgment. "Do not make changes until the discussion is over" is not "my personal opinion", but I think it is the etiquette of Wikipedia as a whole. Minchuchui (talk) 22:59, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- You say that it confuses viewers, but that in itself is just your opinion. I don't think that's a good reason to arbitrarily change past data without discussion. Even if it is a trivial change such as a color-coded classification, or the reason for unifying data standards, changing past information requires a mature discussion. “Until the discussion is over, we must follow the data released in the past!!” Minchuchui (talk) 23:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
- I understand, but if you look at the EIU main website, they also changed the colors of past data to reflect the present. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, we need to include that in the discussion. Changes will be made after the conclusion of the discussion. Minchuchui (talk) 03:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- I understand, but if you look at the EIU main website, they also changed the colors of past data to reflect the present. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 02:44, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
"Official results map"
[edit]Hello. I'm a bit confused by the caption you added to the main 2023 election infobox map. What do you mean by "official" results and why are they different to most voted-for party? Cheers, Number 57 20:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- That is, Thailand uses a parallel electoral system. This will select both candidates and parties or party lists. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 02:51, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry if I'm being thick but what does this map show? Is it the winners of the 400 constituency seats? And this one is the most-voted for party in the party-list element of the election? Number 57 22:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's right, thanks for your comment. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 01:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks – I have amended the caption in the infobox to try and make this a bit clearer. Cheers, Number 57 09:16, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's right, thanks for your comment. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 01:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry if I'm being thick but what does this map show? Is it the winners of the 400 constituency seats? And this one is the most-voted for party in the party-list element of the election? Number 57 22:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Explain to me how WP:5% overrules WP:INFOBOX? WP:LOCALCONSENSUS doesn't trump over global ones. WP:5% does confirm this is mainly confined to US elections, of which this is not (at least not since 1946). Howard the Duck (talk) 12:58, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- It's not related at all. 5% rule is used in every article. Only applicants with more than 5% of the votes can be included in the inbox. Except there is only one applicant with scores exceeding 5%, which can add 1 more applicant according to this example #list and #list อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 13:11, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- No it is not. 2021 Canadian federal election has the People's Party of Canada, which won 4.94% of the vote, and zero seats, on the infobox. Apparently, they're important enough in the narrative of what happened.
- Which brings me to... WP:INFOBOX, which is enshrined as a WP:GUIDELINE, trumps WP:5PERCENT, which is... apparently not even an essay? The person you removed from the infobox, Isko Moreno, was discussed more times than the third placed candidate, Manny Pacquiao. You essentially willfully ignored a guideline for... I don't know what that even is LOL. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- 2022 Bangkok gubernatorial election please see this link: Rosana Tositrakul and Sita Tiwaree these two are often talked about as well. But since neither of them had a score less than 5% they were not put in the infobox. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 13:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- If you still don't understand, you can contact this user. User:Number 57 Try asking this person first. อย่ามาตบะ (talk) 13:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about Bangkok or even Thai politics; the same I guess you know nothing about Filipino politics. If people want to be imposed by the 5% rule willfully ignoring WP:INFOBOX, that's on them. WP:LOCALCONSENSUS, even set by WP:RFCs, don't overrule global consensus.
- Yeah, I know User:Number 57; I have no problem with that guy. If the rest of the community's consensus is decidedly against him, that's okay on him. He sometimes imposes his own interpretation, such as WP:NCGAL, which was overruled in Talk:2019 San Marino general election#Mass move request where the community thought it was more in keeping in WP:RS in regards "San Marino" vs. "Sammarinese". After that WP:RM, he no longer imposes that guideline as the community overruled it on an actual RM. Again, global consensus trumps local consensus. Reliable sources trumps whatever math solutions. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- FWIW, 2011 Singaporean presidential election (the election contested by 4 men all surnamed Tan) had Tan Kin Lian falling in 4.91% of the vote, but was included in the infobox; he was even distant fourth placer. Again, 5% is not a hard and fast rule. Winner Tony appeared 54 times on the article, Cheng Bock 42, Jee Say 28, Kin Lian 29. The bottom two candidates were mentioned just about the same number of times. WP:INFOBOX mandates you to add Kin Lian if you'd add Jee Say. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Howard the Duck: To clarify, the 5% rule is for presidential/mayoral elections and not for parliamentary ones. However, the 5% rule was agreed via an RfC at WT:E&R, so is not a "local consensus" that applies to a single country or article set. The 2021 RfC outcome was that the 5% rule is "the standard infobox inclusion threshold for all elections" (bolding for emphasis) although "appropriate exceptions may be made via local consensus". I'm not sure what relevance MOS:INFOBOX has here, as it doesn't say anything contradictory to the 5% rule. If you don't think the RfC outcome is valid, I would suggest asking for clarification somewhere like WP:AN.
- Also, WP:5% rule isn't an essay in the usual sense; it used to link to the RfC outcome, but someone collated all the RfCs in one place for ease of reference, so it's more like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes – not an essay (as in an editor's thoughts), but rather a useful explainer of past discussions and outcomes. Cheers, Number 57 22:18, 21 March 2024 (UTC)