User talk:Abyssal




Geological age category edits[edit]

I'm attempting to unwind Look2See1's edits on geological age categories. From what I can tell, you put {{Phanerozoic eon nav}} on many of these pages, and then Look2See1 added extra navboxes and formatting. So, I'm leaving {{Phanerozoic eon nav}} in place, but getting rid of the other boxes. Does that sound good? (Perhaps I am now pursuing strategy (3) :-/ ) —hike395 (talk) 08:54, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Later: I forgot to mention that I rescued your "XXX on nav" templates (like {{Jurassic on nav}}, by modifying {{Phanerozoic eon nav}} to automatically detect the earliest period category that exists, but also taking a cutoff parameter. So, {{Jurassic on nav}} will never show a category before the Jurassic, but if Jurassic cat doesn't exist, then it will move onto Cretaceous, etc. I'm leaving "XXX on nav" on the category pages, also. —hike395 (talk) 09:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chronostratigraphy navbox content[edit]

Hey, I've noticed on several stratigraphic formation articles that you've added some nice chronostratigraphy navboxes for quite a few states. Since I was trying to add content for Arkansas stratigraphy, I've built one for Arkansas in my sandbox, which I think meets standards. But, my question is: are subsurface formations included in these or only formations that are exposed at the surface? Thanks. YodellingFish (talk) 19:47, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@YodellingFish:It looks good, but some users have opposed putting these in articles. You might not want to put too much effort into making these until the controversy settles. Abyssal (talk) 19:53, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Abyssal:OK. I can leave it off entirely then. I think they're pretty handy, for what it's worth.
@YodellingFish:That means a lot to me. Hopefully one day we can roll these out without resistance. Abyssal (talk) 20:04, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Neogene nav[edit]

Template:Neogene nav has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 17:38, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Prehistoric categoreis[edit]

None of them would belong in Category:Paleontology in Alabama even if they were real articles, because they have nothing to do with Alabama. So no, I'm not going to just restore the category with a comment-out, because in addition to the WP:DRAFTNOCAT issue the category was also just wrong. Bearcat (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Then a bot can also just add the appropriate categories when the appropriate time comes, without needing an incorrect category to sit there in the meantime as a placeholder. Bearcat (talk) 17:04, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning your redlink problem[edit]

I left a message for you at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Redlinks remover, but I'm not sure the ping worked, because I added it on after I saved the message. So I'm giving you a heads up, just in case. Ciao.     — The Transhumanist   01:05, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Paleozoic life in Utah has been accepted[edit]

Paleozoic life in Utah, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
The article has been assessed as List-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. If your account is more than four days old and you have made at least 10 edits you can create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for Creation if you prefer.

Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia!

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:06, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the prehistoric life of Wyoming".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 15:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the prehistoric life of Wisconsin".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 15:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the prehistoric life of West Virginia".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 15:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the prehistoric life of Virginia".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 15:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the prehistoric life of Vermont".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 15:26, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please update the region on Kota Formation wiki[edit]

On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kota_Formation, I understand that the regions mentioned were accurate at the time it was edited. But Andhra Pradesh state was divided back into previous regions, Telangana and Andhra Pradesh and as per this event the regions I noticed are no longer in Andhra Pradesh State. Hence, the region should be updated to Telangana State. As I don't have enough information about the exact location to decide whether it is in Telangana or Andhra Pradesh state, I am hoping that the person who edited in the beginning has this information. And I am new to editing Wiki, so it difficult for me edit the page correctly, please help me updating the information and providing the users the current actual data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srikarji (talkcontribs) 17:40, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the Paleozoic life of Massachusetts".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. » Shadowowl | talk 11:04, 11 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Abyssal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "List of the prehistoric life of British Columbia".

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Concerning your interest in automation / productivity tools[edit]

I made a new tool. I thought you might like to take a look at it.

It's called SearchSuite.

It enhances search results and makes copying/pasting results to lists (including outlines) from search results very easy.

It even sorts.

I hope you find it useful. All feedback is welcome.     — The Transhumanist    06:19, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update on outline automation[edit]

Here's an update I wrote for someone, which explains things in a bit more detail...

I'm learning JavaScript, so I can automate outline construction and maintenance.

The goal: full automation. That's hard. Within easier reach are interactive tools that can assist editors and increase their productivity: semi-automation.

One approach I've been working on is magical vision for editors who work on outlines. No, not special glasses, but changing how Wikipedia is presented on the screen so that anything that has built-in outline structure, they see as outline material. Shown in wikiformat, without going into an editor first, right there on the screen. From where they can copy and paste it into a wiki editor.

Outline material abounds on Wikipedia all over the place. It's just not noticed as such by most, because it is formatted differently. As you know, outlines are trees, and trees have branches. Those branches can themselves be outlines (i.e., have more branches), or they can be straight lists.

Straight lists are outline material?

A single outline can include many straight lists.

One of the places to find straight lists on Wikipedia are search results. No branches. Just a list of destinations. But cluttered with lots of extraneous data.

So, I started experimenting with reformatting search results, to convert them to a form that is easy to copy/paste.

By the time I was done, it wasn't just useful for outline developers. It was generally useful.

It's a user script called SearchSuite.

It's got several features that modify search results, and each is given a menu item that serves as its on/off switch. Each can work on the output of the others (that was a pain), and the script remembers the setting of each switch between searches. Once you turn a feature on, it stays on. Until you turn it off.

One of the features is sort. Another strips out details, giving you a single-spaced list (showing a lot more results on the screen, which is much faster to browse). Another toggles the sister project results. And another toggles those sometimes annoying redirect/category-based results. The outline developer's feature wikifies the entries, though sort is quite useful to them as well.

Further comments...[edit]

So, that's the conversion script for search results. What other areas are slated for conversion?

Well, I'm done writing the conversion scripts for Special:Allpages with prefix, Wikipedia Books, and Categories. I'm about half done with the ones on CatTree, and nav templates (navigation footers and sidebars). Those last two are proving much harder, and are only partially operational.

I've not yet started on All pages, indices, infoboxes, portal topic lists (so many formats), what links here, tables, embedded lists, or article prose content.

Where is this heading?

Somewhere along the way, I'll put them (except article prose) on a switch (the same switch). I think I can do that without combining them into the same script, but they'll all be bundled together in some way at some point (to allow for a single install).

Then, outline developers can click the menu item to instantly see whatever outline material is on whatever page they are on, in a form they can easily transfer. Some will do it the other way around: leave them on, and turn them off when they want to see wikipedia in the normal view. (Right now, they are not on a switch, so I see the outline view all the time).

And as I did with SearchSuite, I'll add other functionality as well, for general users.

Does any of this make sense?

I figure that as I learn more about programming, I'll progress to higher levels of automation.

I've looked for other programmers to get involved, to no avail. So I'm pretty much on my own on this project.

I hope you've found this interesting. Sincerely,     — The Transhumanist    22:27, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Side discussion on how to improve portals via technology[edit]

See User_talk:Fram#Seeking advice.    — The Transhumanist   13:21, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

File:Coccosteuscropped.JPG listed for discussion[edit]

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Coccosteuscropped.JPG, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. Pkbwcgs (talk) 06:49, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to WikiProject Portals[edit]

The Portals WikiProject has been rebooted.

You are invited to join, and participate in the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system and all the portals in it.

There are sections on the WikiProject page dedicated to tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too), and areas on the talk page for discussing the improvement and automation of the various features of portals.

Many complaints have been lodged in the RfC to delete all portals, pointing out their various problems. They say that many portals are not maintained, or have fallen out of date, are useless, etc. Many of the !votes indicate that the editors who posted them simply don't believe in the potential of portals anymore.

It's time to change all that. Let's give them reasons to believe in portals, by revitalizing them.

The best response to a deletion nomination is to fix the page that was nominated. The further underway the effort is to improve portals by the time the RfC has run its course, the more of the reasons against portals will no longer apply. RfCs typically run 30 days. There are 19 days left in this one. Let's see how many portals we can update and improve before the RfC is closed, and beyond.

A healthy WikiProject dedicated to supporting and maintaining portals may be the strongest argument of all not to delete.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

Let's do this.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   10:18, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Prehistory of Antarctica, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prehistory of Antarctica and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Prehistory of Antarctica during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 14:34, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Portal:Belemnoids[edit]

Portal:Belemnoids, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Belemnoids and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Belemnoids during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 14:43, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portals WikiProject heads up, April 27, 2018[edit]

We now have 52 members, and more are joining daily.

New and easier way to handle excerpts[edit]

Attention portal maintainers!

There's a new template to improve existing and new portals, called {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

It is a lot easier to use than copying and pasting text from articles, as it displays the paragraphs you specify automatically for you.

It makes excerpts so that they are always current and never go stale or fork.

It is more powerful than it looks, because it has the Lua Module:Excerpt supporting it.

Be careful, as it is alpha software. Please notify the WikiProject talkpage of any problems you come across.

To give you a sense of the reaction this template is generating, here is an excerpt of a discussion thread from the WikiProject's talk page:

  • This new template is fantastic. I've added it to the intro sections of the portals on Australian cities (eg P:PER) and it works brilliantly. My compliments to its creators. It can probably also be used in other sections of many portals (eg "Selected article" and "Selected biography"), and, for that reason, will probably make the task of maintaining portals a great deal easier. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for being so brave. Portal:Adelaide/Intro just got a lot simpler! Certes (talk) 10:43, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Kudos on a wonderful template.    — The Transhumanist   03:27, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is amazing stuff. I'm going to get to work on using it on the selected content at most of these portals very soon. WaggersTALK 13:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The RfC[edit]

I wrote a comment in the the April 26 section of the RfC explaining what we are up to. I liked the excerpt above so much, that I went back to my RfC posting, and inserted it.

Please add Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals to your watchlist[edit]

Wish list[edit]

What's this? An old oil lamp. It's so dirty, I think I'll polish it...

*poof* 

Whoa! Are you a WikiGenie? In that case, I get 3 wishes!

I wish...

  1. ...that Portal:Contents/Portals becomes up-to-date.   (The missing entries are listed on the talk page, with instructions).
  2. ...the WikiProject to have Article Alerts.   ({{WikiProject Portals}} templates have already been placed on all portal talk pages).
  3. ...that Portal:Cricket becomes a shining example of portal excellence.   (It was the main example of a crappy and unmaintained portal at the RfC).

Please make my wishes come true. See you around the portals!    — The Transhumanist   07:50, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: Abyssal, thank you for joining. You might be most interested in our design discussions on the WikiProject's talk page. We also have a watchlist from which to view what's going on in Portal space. It includes all the pages in the portal namespace. P.S.: If you have any questions about anything, don't hesitate to ask.    — The Transhumanist   07:50, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article List of fossiliferous stratigraphic units in the Faroe Islands has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

No content

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Christian75 (talk) 19:56, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.

You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

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New articles[edit]

I am creating a bunch of new articles from genera that are currently red links on Wikipedia using fossilworks as a base source. As I am a college student I may have to suddenly leave them half made to go to a lesson, as such I would be grateful if you could help me finish them off. Lavalizard101 (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Portals Overview, May 04, 2018[edit]

Thank you for being a member of the Portals WikiProject, and thank you for all the work you have all been doing on the portal namespace. To see the activity, check out the watchlist.

This is our 3rd issue, see previous issues at the Newsletter archive.

Top priority: Main list of portals needs updating[edit]

The top, and one of the most visible parts, of the portal system is Portal:Contents/Portals, which is intended to list all (completed) portals on Wikipedia.

About half of the missing existing portals have been added since this WikiProject's reboot (April 17th). Thank you to RockMagnetist, TriNitrobrick, Polyamorph, PratyushSinha101, Ganesha811, Bermicourt, Javert2113, Noyster, Ɱ, Lepricavark, XOR'easter, and Emir of Wikipedia, for working on this.

We are half-way to completion with this. We need everyone to chip in until it is done. Instructions, and the list of missing entries are at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope you'll join me there. ("Many hands make light work").

Thank you.

Membership[edit]

We're at 66 members, with more joining daily. We even have 6 WikiGnomes!

Special thanks[edit]

I have awarded Certes with a portals barnstar on his talk page for his work on the new excerpt templates that are revolutionizing the portal system (Template:Transclude lead excerpt & Template:Transclude random excerpt). If you'd like to show your appreciation, please feel free to stop by his talk page and add your signature to the barnstar itself.

Thank you Certes. You are enabling this WikiProject to get the right things done, fast.

By the way, the templates have already gone international. After being told about the templates, Mossab wrote:

Thanks You very much!. Those are fantastic and great templates! I transferred them to Arabic Wikipedia and they do a magic great job. I worked to improve portal anatomy here and i do every thing i can to improve it and i am very sad for the nomination for deletion of portals :(. I am glad to be member on WikiProject Portals and i added my name with pleasure. Kind regards

RFC[edit]

As you know, the (April 8th) proposal to delete all portals and the portal namespace inspired the reboot of this WikiProject. RfCs typically run for 30 days, which means there are 5 days left including today, before the RfC will be closed. The !votes are predominantly "oppose", but many editors have shared their disappointment with the portal system. We have our work cut out for us in correcting the problems of the portals to address their concerns. Complaints ranged from being out of date and lacking maintenance, to taking up the time of editors that they felt (due to low traffic) would be better spent improving articles.

Anti-WikiProject drama[edit]

This past week has been somewhat stressful for me, with more than a little conflict...

It culminated with my being reported at the Administrator's Noticeboard "for spamming and canvassing". This is the second time I've been reported there during the RfC; the first one was for posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages.

The accusations were 1) Posting notices of the deletion discussion (the RfC) at the top of all portal pages, 2) Adding an Article alerts section to the Portals WikiProject page, and 3) posting notices (invitations) about this WikiProject on user talk and portal talk pages.

None of which fall under the Wikipedia definitions of spamming or canvassing.

Thank you, Lionelt and Lepricavark, for coming to my rescue. I don't know how the discussion would have turned out if you had not spoken up.

The discussion was closed as "no action necessary".

After that, the person responsible posted their thoughts to my talk page. Here they are, with my response:

Congratulations, it appears your relentless targeted advertising of the RFC, your beating the RFC Supporters with a stick by posting countless times there, your dishonest insistence that Current Events was on the chopping block, and your obstruction of clean up efforts at MfD are paying dividends. Have fun playing with Portal space where no one will read your work. I'm sure someone will eventually clean up the mess when your interest wanes. Cheers. Legacypac

Thank you. I accept your congratulations on behalf of Wikiproject Portals and the portal-loving community – it was a team effort. In addition, I'd like to clarify some things about your claims above...
  1. Each page nominated for deletion must have a notice at the top of its page, per the deletion guideline. Not to have one there, would be unfair to those who use such pages, and would constitute a secret deletion tribunal. We don't do things that way on Wikipedia.
  2. As new facts became available (e.g., a motivated and thriving WikiProject to support the portals, new building blocks, etc.), it was appropriate to post the developments to the RfC, to support informed decision making.
  3. Proposals are literal, not figurative. The proposal specified "all portals". All means all.
  4. The fact is, the rebooted WikiProject is cleaning up the mess, rather rapidly. By updating and upgrading the portals, rather than getting rid of them.
  5. I think I'll be hanging around for awhile, but the project is more than likely to achieve critical mass and may outlive us all, due in part to the development of tools to assist editors in building, upgrading, and maintaining portals that are fully dynamic and self-updating.
Portals are more fun to work with than ever. Thank you for your role in making this happen. You made us try even harder, and inspired us to pull together as a team. You'll have a warm place in our hearts, forever. The Transhumanist

Automatically refreshed excerpts[edit]

The main advancement we've made so far is applying selective transclusion Transclusion is template technology, showing a page on another page. Selective transclusion shows only part of that page. We use it to show excerpts that always match the source. The two templates we have so far, are Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Obsoleting subpages[edit]

Excerpts are migrating toward the base page of each portal, and where this is done, a subpage is no longer needed.

Template:Transclude lead excerpt will be able to be used to put the intro excerpt directly on the portal page, rather than on an intro subpage, once we adapt a portal design to accommodate this.

Template:Transclude random excerpt is currently being used on 1st-level subpages, and eliminates the need for 2nd-level subpages. (Many portals have 2 levels of subpages).

There are about 1500 portals, but there are around 148,000 subpages in portal space. Further discussions are needed to develop designs and components that do not require them.

It is my hope that the portal of the future will be a single page, or close to it, pulling in excerpts from specified dynamic sources (like category pages), filtered by ratings. This would obviate the need for subpages at all (except for maybe the header and footer subpages, which store a portal's settings). A more likely near-term solution would be subpages with a list maintained by a bot, or editors using semi-automatic tools.

New portals[edit]

Since the reboot, a new portal has been created:

Portal:Limited recognition

Please watchlist these pages[edit]

Some central pages in the portal system. The more eyes on them, the better.

Wrapping up...[edit]

There's more in the works, like a rating system, further redesigns, etc. Keep an eye on the discussions on the project's talk page. They should start showing up there soon.

Hope to see you there. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]


WikiProject Portals update, 11 May 2018[edit]

We've grown to 73 members, and morale is high. Thank you for joining. Here is some news, and some tasks...

The RfC will be closed soon...[edit]

2018-05-11: preparations are being made to close the RfC. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure#Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/RfC: Ending the system of portals.

When there, be sure to notice the consultation link.

We're trying to get a prototypical single-page portal developed in time to show the RfC closers before they make their final decision. You can help. It's Portal:Humanism. So far, we've applied selective transclusion (automation) to excerpts, and have made the following sections without subpages: intro, selected article, selected biography, categories, related portals, wikiprojects, things to do, and wikimedia. Eight down, 4 to go, plus 2 formatting subpages (not sure we can migrate those). Automating every section, would also be nice.

Main objectives[edit]

Our main objectives currently, are:

  1. Replace static excerpts with selective transclusions, so that the excerpts always stay fresh (that is, match the source content). We are now doing this on the portal base page as much as possible, to reduce the number of subpages that are needed. See #2...
  2. Migrate the functions of subpages to the portal base pages. There are around 150,000 subpages in portal space. We aim to make these obsolete by using templates and other calls from the portal base pages.
  3. Improve portal design to make portals self-update. Semi-dynamic sections update from a static list, as used in {{Transclude random excerpt}}. Fully-dynamic sections would update from a list maintained elsewhere on Wikipedia, like a category. We haven't found a way to do this yet, other than to create a bot (which we will probably need to do).

Maintenance pass #1: Upgrading the intro section[edit]

The intro section of many portals transcludes an "Intro" subpage that has an excerpt in it.

We're replacing that with a selective transclusion directly in the intro section, bypassing the subpage. Though, there's a little more to it...

For instructions, see: Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Transclude intro excerpt directly on the portal base page.

Please skip Portal:American Civil War, as that is specifically being maintained by hand.

Maintenance pass #2: Obsoleting the Wikimedia subpages[edit]

One of the sections on many portals links to sister projects on the subject. This needlessly takes a subpage. The subpage can be made obsolete by using the template {{Wikimedia for portals}} directly on the portal base page.

This has been done for several hundred portals so far.

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Obsolete a Wikimedia subpage for instructions.

Maintenance pass #3: calling the category tree from the portal base page[edit]

Certes figured out how...

{{subst:Text|<category|tree>}}{{subst:PAGENAME}}{{subst:Text|</categorytree>}}

For more information, see the thread Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Rendering PAGENAME inside categorytree tag doesn't work (it does now).

More to come...[edit]

In the meantime, see ya around the portals!    — The Transhumanist   15:19, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Kenya[edit]

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Portals WikiProject update, 15 May 2018[edit]

We are at 74 members. If you know anyone who might find this WikiProject interesting, please invite them.

The RfC has ended[edit]

The RfC was closed May 11th, and a closing statement was posted May 12th which says "There exists a strong consensus against deleting or even deprecating portals at this time."

Ongoing tasks[edit]

Some major activities that we are in the middle of include:

  • Adding the missing existing portals to the main portals list at Portal:Contents/Portals. Instructions are on the talk page. There are about 125 portals left to be processed. (There were 400). Keep up the good work!
  • Development discussions on how to migrate the subpages to the base pages. There are around 150,000 subpages in portal space, associated with the various sections on a typical portal. We are trying to obsolete them section type by section type. Currently, we're working on obsoleting the intro subpages and the "selected articles" subpages. Please join in.

Other tasks[edit]

  • The list of portals not ready to be listed on the main list can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#These are not listed yet (scroll down to see them - they are marked Not ready). They are incomplete. If you want a specific portal to work on, please consider choosing one from that list.
  • Over the years, some incomplete portals (portals under construction) got added to Portal:Contents/Portals. Therefore, every portal listed there needs to be inspected, and any that are incomplete should be removed from that list and added to the not ready list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#These are not listed yet (scroll down to see it). On Portal:Contents/Portals, I'm already almost done inspecting the portals in the culture section, and so you can skip those. The types of things to look for are empty sections (most will have a redlinked subpage), lack of "selected" sections, portal stub with just an intro and end sections, and very poor layout (like seriously unbalanced columns).

Portal-building resources[edit]

During his work on portals, Broter found a quote randomizer. It is {{Random quotation}}.

Trailblazer: approaching the one-page portal[edit]

Broter has transformed the Portal:Community of Christ so it is comprised of only 3 pages in portal space: the base page, its box-header subpage, and its box-footer subpage. Its other other subpages are now obsolete and are waiting for deletion. Nice job, Broter!

Well, that's all for now. See ya around the portals.    — The Transhumanist   06:18, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portals WikiProject update, 25 May 2018[edit]

We have grown to 79 members.

Please provide a warm welcome to our latest additions, Wpgbrown, Cactus.man, JLJ001, and Wumbolo.

A lot is going on, much of it on the WikiProject's talk page, so be sure to go there and join in on any of the many discussions taking place there.

Elsewhere around the portal project, or related to portals, the following is happening...

New news template ready for testing[edit]

Evad37 has created a new template, with supporting lua module, to handle news in portals...

{{Transclude selected current events}} is ready to be tested in some actual portals. Let Evad37 know if you need help with the search patterns.

Noyster commented that "This is the best portal innovation since sliced bread!"

See the relevant discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals#Alternative to Wikinews.

Thank you, Evad.

Coming soon: Automatic article alerts (but there is a glitch)[edit]

Our WikiProject is now subscribed to the bot that makes automatic article alerts, but the subpage where they are posted has not been added to our WikiProject page yet because of a weird problem...

Featured portal nominations from two years ago keep popping up on there.

Please check Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Article alerts to see if you can figure out how to fix this.

Once that is remedied, it will be posted on our WikiProject page.

Thank you.

Note that, this will only track base pages, because to track the rest, we'd have to create over 140,000 talk pages for the subpages, and that just isn't worthwhile (as we're trying to remove the subpages anyways). Therefore, any alerts for subpages will still need to be posted manually.

New portal, still needs work[edit]

Drafting a new portals guideline[edit]

Your input/editing is welcome on the draft-in-progress of a new guideline for portals.

See or work on the draft at User:Cesdeva/sandbox11.

See also the discussion at: Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines#RfC on new portal guidelines

RfC on new TOC layout for main portal list[edit]

There is a proposal to change the look of the table of contents at Portal:Contents/Portals.

See: Portal talk:Contents/Portals#RFC on layout update.

Deletion discussion survivors[edit]

Thank you to those who have participated in portal deletion discussions. There are still some editors out there who despise portals, and this comes across in their argumentation style. Wow. Such negativity. But, there is some good news...

Current deletion discussions are posted on our WikiProject page.

Portal space clean up[edit]

While portal detractors are trying to get rid of portals via MfD, we have deleted many of them via speedy deletion (per {{Db-p1}} or {{Db-p2}}). Essentially, they were bare skeletons, with maybe a little meat on them. The plus here is that speedy deletion is without prejudice to re-creating the portals. They can easily be restarted from scratch without getting approval, or be undeleted by request by someone willing to work on them. We have kept track of these, for when someone wants to rebuild them. They are listed at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

We are also removing subpages, the functions of which have been migrated to portal base pages. To see which ones have been removed, look for the redlinks in our watchlist.

There is also an MfD concerning some of these at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Redundant subpages of the Cornwall portal.

For subpages that need to be deleted, you can conveniently place this speedy deletion template at the top of each of them:

{{Db-g6|rationale=of subpage clean up – this subpage's function has been migrated to the portal base page and is no longer needed}}

Then an admin will come along and delete them.

Please help list the unlisted portals![edit]

There are still 100 existing portals not yet presented on the main portal list at Portal:Contents/Portals. There were 400, so we've come a long way. Thank you! But we are not done yet...

Please list a couple of them. Every little bit helps. If each member of this project listed one more, it would almost all be done. Many hands make light work.

The list of missings, and instructions, are to be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope to see you there!

Wrapping up[edit]

These developments make up just the tip of the iceberg. I'll have more to report in the next update, soon.    — The Transhumanist   00:30, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa, I missed one...[edit]

There's an article about the Portals WikiProject in the new issue of Signpost:

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2018-05-24/WikiProject report

Enjoy.

P.S.: We now have 80 members. Evad37 just joined!    — The Transhumanist   01:35, 25 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portals WikiProject update #007, 31 May 2018[edit]

We have grown to 89 members.

This is the seventh issue of this newsletter. For previous issues, see our newsletter archive.

Welcome[edit]

A warm welcome to our nearly one dozen new members...

Our new members include:

Be sure to say "hi" and welcome them to the team.

The portal set has shrunk[edit]

There were 1515 portals, but now we have 1475, because we speedy deleted a bunch of incompleted portals that had been sitting around for ages, that were empty shells or had very little content. Because they were speedied, they can be rebuilt from scratch without acquiring approval from WP:DRV.

Maintenance runs on the portals set have begun[edit]

This is what we have been gearing up for: upgrading the portals en masse, using AWB.

More than half of the Associated Wikimedia sections have been converted to no longer use a subpage. This chore will probably be completed over the next week or two. Many thanks to the WikiGnome Squad, who have added an Associated Wikimedia section to the many geography-related portals that lacked one. The rest of the subjects await. :)

The next maintenance drive will be on the intro sections. Notices have gone out to the WikiProjects for which one or more portals fall within their subject scope. Once enough time has elapsed for them to respond (1 week), AWB processing of intro sections will begin.

Thank you, you[edit]

I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your part in the RfC. I went back and reread much of it. I believe your enthusiasm played a major part in turning the tide on there. I'm proud of all of you.

Why reread that mess, you ask?

To harvest ideas, and to keep the problems that need to be fixed firmly in mind. But, also to keep in touch. See below...

Thank yous all around[edit]

I've contacted all of the other opposers of the RfC proposal to delete portals, to thank them for their support, and to assure them that their decision was not made in vain. I updated them on our activities, provided the link to the interviews about this project in the Signpost, pointed out our newsletter archive so they can keep up-to-date with what we are doing, and I invited them all to come and have a look-see at our operations (on our talk page).

Sockpuppet, and reverting his work[edit]

It so happened that one of our members was a sockpuppet: JLJ001. According to the admin who blocked him, he was a particularly tricky long term abuser. This is a weird situation, since the user was quite helpful. He will be missed.

This has been somewhat disruptive, because admins are doing routine deletions of the pages (portals, templates, etc.) he created, and reversion of his edits (I don't know if they will be reverting all of them). Please bear with them, as they are only doing what is best in the long run.

The following pages have been deleted by the admins so far, that I know of:

Automation so far, section by section...[edit]

Automatic article alerts is up and running[edit]

Automatic article alerts are now featured on the project page.

Some super out-of-date entries kept showing up on there, so posting it on the Project page was delayed. Thanks to Evad37 and AfroThundr for providing solutions on this one. Evad37 adjusted the workflow settings per Wikipedia:Article alerts/Subscribing#Choosing workflows, to make sure only the appropriate page types show up. AfroThundr removed the tags from the old entries that caused them to keep showing up in the article alerts.

Other things that could use some automation[edit]

Noyster pointed out that it would be nice to automate the updating of the portals section at the Community bulletin board.

Another major component of the portal system is the main list of portals, at Portal:Contents/Portals. How would we go about automating the updating of that?

Please post your ideas on the WikiProject's talk page. Thank you.

Deletion discussion survivors[edit]

Keep in mind that we have already speedy deleted almost all of the nearly empty portals, which can be rebuilt without approval whenever it is convenient to do so. Other portals should be completed if at all possible rather than delete them through MfD (which requires approval from Deletion review to rebuild).

(Current deletion discussions are posted on our WikiProject page).

Portals needing repair[edit]

Wrapping up[edit]

There's still more, but it will have to wait until next issue.

Until then, see ya around the project.    — The Transhumanist   11:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation link notification for June 2[edit]

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Delaware[edit]

I fixed a few links in List of the prehistoric life of Delaware but there are still some that need expert disambiguation and a few that point in the wrong direction. (I'm pretty sure Lima isn't in Delaware). Certes (talk) 22:17, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Portals WikiProject update #008, 7 June 2018[edit]

The WikiProject now has 92 participants, including 16 admins.

Welcome[edit]

A warm welcome to the newest members of the team:

Be sure to say hi.

Congrats[edit]

Pbsouthwood has just gotten through the grueling RfA process to become a Wikipedia administrator. Be sure to congratulate him.

The reason he went for it was: "For some time I expect to be busy with subpage deletion for Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals as mentioned above. The amount of work is expected to keep me busy for some time. I am primarly a content creator and contributor to policy discussions, but would be willing to consider other admin work on request, providing that I feel that my involvement would be appropriate and not too far outside my comfort zone."

New feature: Picture slideshow[edit]

Picture slideshow

Evad37 has figured out a way to let the user flip through pictures without purging the page. Purging is awkward because there is an intermediary confirmation screen that you have to click on "yes". In the new picture slideshow section, all you have to do is click on the > to go to the next picture or < to instantly show the previous feature. The feature also shuffles the pictures when the page is initiated, so that they are shown in a different order each time the user visits the page (or purges it).

It is featured in Portal:Sacramento, California. Check it out to the right.

Keep in mind that the feature is a beta version. Please share your comments on how to refine this feature, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals#Refining the Picture slideshow.

The one-page portal has been achieved[edit]

We now have a one-page portal design. It isn't fully automated, nor is it even fully semi-automated, as there are still some manually filled-in areas. But it no longer requires any subpages in portal space, and that is a huge improvement. For example, Portal:Sacramento, California utilizes the one-page design concept. While is employs heavy use of templates, it does not have any subpages of its own.

I commend you for your teamwork[edit]

This is the most cooperative team I've ever seen. With a strong spirit of working together to get an important job done. Kudos to you.

In conclusion...[edit]

There's more. A lot more. But it will have to wait until next issue, but you don't have to wait. See what's going on at the WikiProject's talk page.    — The Transhumanist   01:57, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Your draft article, Draft:Aphrosaurus[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:CMN 8547[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Columbosauripus[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Dawson Creek[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Dinosaur bonebed[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Dinosaur paleopathology[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Duquettichnus[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Fresnosaurus[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Fuscinapeda[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Hoganas Formation[edit]

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Information icon Hello, Abyssal. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Timeline of paleontology in popular culture/this, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

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Information icon Hello, Abyssal. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Paleontology in China, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Draft space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for article space.

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Concern regarding Draft:Pooleyichnus[edit]

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Concern regarding Draft:Hydrotherosaurus[edit]

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Concern regarding Draft:Toretocnemus[edit]

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Concern regarding Draft:Tricorynopus[edit]

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Wikified and taxobox and cats added, original unformatted text commented out. Tisquesusa (talk) 18:55, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Hosselkus Limestone[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Hydrotherosaurus[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Iguanodontipus[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Austria[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Belgium[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Brazil[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in China[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Croatia[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Denmark[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Finland[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in France[edit]

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Your draft article, Draft:Paleontology in Germany[edit]

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