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We now have articles on roughly 740 college football teams that compiled perfect seasons. There are 120 remaining perfect seasons from the last 100 years that lack articles. Please take a look at "The List", and, if you're inspired to do so, create an article on one of these remaining teams. Cbl62 (talk) 22:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Cbl62, great work leading the charge on this effort. On a related note, we could some team season article creation to combat the Template:Cfb link call limit crisis on the national season articles, which contains all the standings templates, which in turn make lots of cfb link calls where there is no season article. The following seasons are over the limit:
- 1928 college football season: need 16 team season articles created
- 1929 college football season: need 7
- 1932 college football season: need 11
- 1934 college football season: need 15
- 1935 college football season: need 14
- 1937 college football season: need 13
- 1938 college football season: need 17
- 1940 college football season: need 4
- 1947 college football season: need 12
- 1948 college football season: need 31
- 1949 college football season: need 43
- 1950 college football season: need 25
- 1951 college football season: need 14
- 1952 college football season: need 24
- 1953 college football season: need 16
- 1954 college football season: need 23
- 1955 college football season: need 5
If you choose to tackle the perfect seasons effort, it would be great if you could prioritize conference-member teams from these seasons. Additionally, there are many more non-perfect undefeated seasons, conference championship seasons, and current Division I team seasons from these years that warrant articles. I've been chipping away on these seasons in "crisis", but I can use some help!
At this point, the conference standings templates for these seasons are largely complete. Among extant conferences, we're only missing a bunch from the Northern Sun Intercollegiate Conference (the data here is readily available from the conference website and newspapers.com) and the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (these will be a tougher to pin down). Jweiss11 (talk) 22:21, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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eightfour left "to do" from the last 70 years since19541950. Cbl62 (talk) 03:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've been working away at 1949, but I could some help with all these seasons in crisis. Patriarca12, BeanieFan11, would be great to get your attention here. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:19, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
CFB featured article candidate[edit]
Hi all - I have nominated 1921 Centre vs. Harvard football game for featured status but the nomination has not attracted many reviewers. If any of you have the time or interest to give the article a read and leave some feedback or a review there, it would be much appreciated. Thanks! PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Merge discussion at 2023–24 College Football Playoff[edit]
Hi all - there is a merge discussion at 2023–24 College Football Playoff that has stalled in the last month - I would like to wrap this up so that either my DYK nom can proceed or the article can be merged and I will know not to work on any other articles of this kind. Opinions would be very welcome here. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- In general, the content is well written and well sourced. However, detail about the 2024 Rose Bowl belongs in 2024 Rose Bowl, detail about the 2024 Sugar Bowl belongs in 2024 Sugar Bowl, and detail about 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship game belongs in 2024 College Football Playoff National Championship. Readers should find detail about notable games in the main game articles, not a higher-level article. Significantly thinning the "Playoff games" section, by moving game details into the game articles (especially for Rose and Sugar, whose articles currently lack prose recaps), would allow this article to focus on "Selection and teams", "Exclusion of Florida State", and "Aftermath", as those sections provide more background and detail than is found in the "College Football Playoff bowl games" section of 2023–24 NCAA football bowl games. Overall, I really don't see a need for this type of article for any of the four-team CFP playoffs, but that may be "the wrong measure for including or excluding an article or topic" (per WP:NEED). That said, I do believe that mis-placed content (albeit well written and well sourced) is an issue with this article and should be addressed. Dmoore5556 (talk) 17:41, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
Instructions page[edit]
Hello everybody, I'd like to suggest creating a page to follow instructions on how to make a good article. I was thinking just like we do in the NFL with: "Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Player pages format".
Why should we have a page like this? If college football players generally move on to the NFL. Well, I personally think it'd be a good idea to have a guide to follow; since I was editing DJ Uiagalelei's page and I noticed that highlights from High School are included in his Infobox. In the Template:Infobox NFL biography, no type of this highlight is included; so I thought about removing it, but I didn't know if that is allowed here. In addition to the fact that it'd help us a lot when organizing an infobox (personally I love editing 'em), for example first the national championships are shown, then the Nationwide awards (Heisman, Doak Walker, John Mackey, etc.), then the All-American Teams , and so more.
If I don't receive a response, I'll feel free of creating such a page, and I will always be open to any changes after an agreement. THX =) Sergio Skol (talk) 17:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
- Or just update Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Player pages format, so its easily referenced for most of these that will become NFL players. —Bagumba (talk) 12:37, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
This RM to lowercase the titling of National Signing Day may be of interest to participants of this WikiProject. Randy Kryn (talk) 05:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Major college football conferences and teams in pre-divisional era[edit]
In recent months, Ben76266 made a series of edits to national college football season articles (e.g. 1955 college football season) reorganizing the conference standings templates and adding a designation reading "For this article, major conferences defined as those including at least one state flagship public university and the Ivy League." This has had the effect of demoting the Missouri Valley Conference to minor status and promoting the North Central Conference and Yankee Conference to major status. I believe this contravenes how the teams in these conferences were actually designated. I recall seeing an NCAA document a while back that lists which teams had "major" status from the 1930s until the beginning of NCAA divisions in the late 1950s. Does anyone know where I can find that document?
On a related note, I've been reorganizing 1949 college football season as I've been creating a number of 1949 team season articles to combat the Template:Cfb link call crisis there. In particular, see the "Minor conference summaries" section, which I've cleaned up and expanded from the long-standing version of the table. I plan to create a similar table for the major conferences. Let me know if you have any thoughts. Jweiss11 (talk) Jweiss11 (talk) 18:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I have made the edits mentioned. The status of "major" and "minor" conferences in these pre-divisional annual articles seemed very arbitrary, and so I was trying to come up with a metric that could be used to define the conferences. I welcome any and all conversation on this topic, even if it leads to my changes being reversed or altered. I would also like to see the NCAA document mentioned if it exists. Ben76266 (talk) 21:13, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
Templates for deletion[edit]
A large number of college football navboxes templates have been nominated for deletion. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 March 26. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 20:03, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
Anyone in a article-creating mood?[edit]
Hi, for anyone who is feeling an urge to create new articles for this project and for NFL football, there are a ton of requested articles at Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports/American football for a variety of subjects, from players and coaches to rivalries and terminology. Some of these have been lingering around for awhile with no action. Feel free to be bold, help create some new articles and expand Wikipedia's coverage of American football! Fretyr (talk) 16:44, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Junior college national champions[edit]
Junior college (Juco) football teams almost never receive the SIGCOV needed to pass muster under WP:GNG. Juco national champions appear to be an exception where sufficient SIGCOV can sometimes be found. We now have a template of Juco national champions in case anyone is interested in doing work in this area:
Cbl62 (talk) 03:54, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Kadyn Proctor (and future players doing the same shit)[edit]
Hi everyone. As perhaps you know, the MF Kadyn Proctor just re-entered to the transfer portal and returned to Alabama. He was officially enrolled with the Hawkeyes, but... should we add Iowa to his Infobox? I mean, this isn't like the NFL, where players can be members of teams only in the preseason, in CFB there's no preseason.
I think is better not show it in the Infobox, it'd be weird if it is displayed:
- Alabama (2023, 2024–present)
- Iowa (2024)
Or
- Alabama (2023)
- Iowa (2024)
- Alabama (2024–present)
Perhaps it's only me, but I prefer just show:
- Alabama (2023–present)
It is more clear, specially because he does not even play a snap with Iowa (just went to make more money, but that ain't the matter).
Additionally, the transfer portal is out of control, too many players are transferring multiple times in the same offseason. What's the next? (e.g.)
- Ohio State (2024)
- Texas (2024)
- USC (2024)
- LSU (2024)
IMO, if they don't play a game with any team, it shouldn't be displayed in the Infobox. Sergio Skol (talk) 18:16, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'd say if they aren't on the team for any games/any part of a season, it shouldn't be listed in the infobox. glman (talk) 18:24, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Marcus Dupree is listed as going to Oklahoma and not his later transfered school (USM).-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 23:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
All-Americans: missing articles[edit]
As part of my series on developing redlink lists for likely notable football players (see 1 2 3 4 5 6), I wondered how many selections to the College Football All-America Team are missing articles. It seems only 1889-1895, 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020 are complete. In case anyone wants to work on any, here's what I've got, based on each All-America article (will periodically update over the next few days). Note that I'm only including first-team selections as those are most likely to be notable; I'm also bolding any who were mutltiple-year first-team choices, and italicizing those who were first-team choices by multiple selectors:
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- 1910:
- Lawrence Dunlap Smith - Harvard - E
- Richard Plimpton Lewis - Harvard - E
- Edward J. Daly - Dartmouth - E
- Springer H. Brooks - Yale - E
- Tom Piollet - Penn State - E
- James W. "Jim" Scully - Yale - T
- Lothrop "Ted" Withington - Harvard - T
- Ralph W. "Bud" Sherwin - Dartmouth - T
- Homer Dutter - Illinois - T
- Rudy Probst - Syracuse - T
- Joseph L. Wier - West Point - G
- T. S. Wilson - Princeton - G
- Glenn D. Butzer - Illinois - G
- Effingham Morris - Yale - C
- Ralph Galvin - Pittsburgh - C
- John Twist - Illinois - C
- Harry Hartman - Syracuse - C
- Forsman - Lafayette - C
- James Scott - Penn - QB
- Schef - Illinois - QB
- V. Ballou - Princeton - QB
- James Dean - Wisconsin - QB
- G. H. Fletcher - Purdue - QB
- Fred "Tex" Ramsdell - Penn - HB
- John Rosenwald - Minnesota - HB
- William Crawley - Chicago - HB
- Reuben Johnson - Minnesota HB
- 1911:
- Lawrence Dunlap Smith - Harvard - E
- Edward J. Daly - Dartmouth - E
- A. Harry Kallett - Syracuse - E
- Chauncey Oliver - Illinois - E
- Sampson Burd - Carlisle - E
- Jim Scully - Yale - T
- Leonard Frank - Minnesota - T
- William Edward Munk - Cornell - T
- Sylvester V. Shonka - Nebraska - T
- Greig - Swarthmore - T
- Rudy Probst - Syracuse - T
- Charles J. Robinson - Minnesota - G
- Ray Wakeman - Navy - G
- George Howe - Navy - G
- Horace Scruby - Chicago - G
- Pomeroy T. Francis - Yale - G
- Willis "Fat" O'Brien - Iowa - C
- John "Keckie" Moll - Wisconsin - QB
- Preston Doane Fogg - Syracuse - QB
- Reuben Martin Rosenwald - Minnesota - HB
- Walter Camp Jr. - Yale - HB (yes, the son of that Walter Camp)
- Clark Sauer - Chicago - HB
- Jesse Philbin - Yale - FB
- Stancil "Possum" Powell - Carlisle - FB
- Wallace De Witt - Princeton - FB
- 1912:
- K. P. Gilchrist - Navy - E
- Francis Joseph O'Brien - Harvard - E
- Phillips - Princeton - T
- Rip Shenk - Princeton - G
- Ray L. Bennett - Dartmouth - G
- Carroll T. Cooney - Yale - G
- George T. Howe - Navy - G
- Gerard Timothy Driscoll - Harvard - G
- Howard L. Benson - Lafayette - C
- Henry Burchell Gardner - Harvard - QB
- Wallace "Butch" De Witt - Princeton - HB
- 1913:
- W. H. Fritz - Cornell - E
- Benjamin F. Avery - Yale - E
- Francis Joseph O'Brien - Harvard - E
- John S. Pendleton - Yale - G
- Jimmie Munns - Cornell - G
- William Marting - Yale - C
- Pete Garlow - Carlisle - C
- Walter Simpson - Penn - C
- Paul Russell - Chicago - QB
- 1914:
- Red Brann - Yale - E
- Reginald Bovill - Washington & Jefferson - E
- Edwin Stavrum - Wisconsin - E
- Pete Maxfield - Lafayette - T
- Will Burton - Kansas - T
- Wilbur Shenk - Princeton - G
- Harry Routh - Purdue - G
- Boles Rosenthal - Minnesota - C
- Willard Cool - Cornell - C
- Alexander D. Wilson - Yale - QB
- Malcolm Justin Logan - Harvard - QB
- William H. Tow - Amherst - QB
- Paul Russell - Chicago - QB
- Sammy Gross - Iowa - QB
- Wilbur Hightower - Northwestern - QB
- Louis E. Pickerel - Ohio State - QB
- Andrew Toolan - Williams - HB
- Dick Rutherford - Nebraska - HB
- Marcus Wilkinson - Syracuse - HB
- Carroll Knowles - Yale - HB
- Moore - Princeton - HB
- Gray - Chicago - HB
- Carl Philippi - Cornell - FB
- Campbell "Honus" Graf - Ohio State - FB
- 1915:
- Jack "Red" Lamberton - Princeton - E
- Ernest William Soucy - Harvard - E
- Maurice M. Witherspoon - Washington & Jefferson - T
- Nelson "Pie" Way - Yale - T
- Dave Tibbott - Princeton - HB
- Red Wilkinson - Syracuse - HB
- Anderson - Colgate - HB
- Edward H. Driggs - Princeton - FB
- 1916:
- Richard Harte - Harvard - E
- Charles Highley - Princeton - E
- William Lippard McLean - Princeton - T
- DeVitalis - Brown - T
- Louis Seagrave - Washington - T
- Walter Herber Wheeler - Harvard - T
- Lawrence Fox - Yale - G
- Charles Henning - Penn - G
- Christopher Schlachter - Syracuse - G
- Alfred Gennert - Princeton - C
- Claire Long - Minnesota - HB
BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Oregon Webfoots vs. Oregon Ducks[edit]
Team articles from 1940 Oregon Ducks football team to 1977 Oregon Ducks football team have just been changed from "Webfoots" to "Ducks" by @User:Carrite.
I'm not sure what the correct team name is for each year, but would like to see some discussion and sources on the move.