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Hi. I am new to Wikipedia editing and am having an issue with a fellow editor. I am trying to fix and update the page on actor Colin Cunningham but my edit was immediately taken down by a person who claimed I have a conflict of interest! I have been Librarian for over 25 years and teach Ethical Information Sources to High School Students. The person in question did not even ask my qualifications or reason for wishing to update this page prior to removing my edits and making false accusations. They have failed to respond to me at all to clarify the thought process behind these accusations. The mistakes on the page were noticed by a gentleman I do research for from time to time. He does not feel qualified to become an editor and make the corrections himself. He asked if I would do it since I am a Librarian. I am not being paid in any manner other than in my capacity as a Librarian by the institution that employs me. I have fact checked all of the information he has given me with the appropriate bodies (Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences website, Leo Awards Archive of Past Awardees and Nominees website, etc.) But as I said, I corrected only one sentence and posted a new photo (that I got written permission from the actor to use, per Wikipedia rules) before my work was taken down.

My intention for this article are as follows:

1. Add the new photograph I got permission to use. The old one was from 2012 and is not how the man currently looks.
2. Fix an error that credits the actor with being the founder of the Open Fist theatre company in Los Angeles. He was a member of the founding company, which is a very different thing. (see Wikipedia article on Open Fist Theatre Company: Open Fist Theatre Company)
3. Fix a number of grammatical errors and awkward wording so the whole page reads better. The page has been edited by multiple people since first posted and it's a bit choppy and disjointed.
4. Add a table of the actor's many award wins and nominations. He was shortlisted for an Academy Award Nomination, has won 3 Leo Awards and been nominated for 11 and has a number of other awards to his credit as actor, writer, director and producer.

I am happy to have another Wikipedia editor fact-check my work when I am finished, if it is indeed standard practice.

Many thanks,

LAFUREY LAFurey (talk) 18:55, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

17:40, March 1, 2014 Orlady moved page Talk:The Saguache Crescent to Talk:Saguache Crescent over redirect (Removing definite article -- see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (definite or indefinite article at beginning of name) for the reasons)

You're wrong. please undo your move. Eric Corbett 17:44, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Why haven't you sorted this out yet? Eric Corbett 13:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Too many administrators believe themselves to be infallible, even quoting policy and guidelines they've obviously never read, as you did in this case. What would you suggest as a kinder way of saying "you're a wanker"? Eric Corbett 22:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see nothing wrong with Eric's comments. However I do find this comment unprofessional: "I might have returned to this a bit sooner if the comments on my talk page had been a bit "nicer". Just saying." Why should my article be held up because of something that Eric said, though I can't imagine what he said that offended you. Gandydancer (talk) 16:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Who says we are "professional" around here? I am not paid for this. I edit Wikipedia and I do DYK reviews for free -- and most of my DYK reviews are never claimed for QPQ credit.

In interacting with humans who are volunteering their time, you need to account for some human psychology -- including the existence of human emotions. Most (more likely all) of us have conflicting demands for our time (Wikipedia is not the most important thing in my life) and most (if not all) of us have emotions that we can't always account for. If a request here rubs me the wrong way, it reduces the chance that I'm going to be motivated to drop everything and respond. If this were a professional assignment for me, I would suck it up and respond immediately, but this isn't a professional assignment, so I don't feel I have to do that. Anyway, by the time I responded to this request, I was no longer feeling grumpy about it, which probably was a better thing for all of us. --Orlady (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Being an infallible administrator Orlady found it difficult to admit that she was wrong, and childishly held up your DYK review in retaliation. Just the way it is here. Eric Corbett 23:42, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady sure does believe in her infallibility. This talk thread[1] is very interesting. Multiple editors have told her that telling an administrator to resign isn't a personal attack but she has yet to admit she was wrong with this edit[2]....William 00:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 2 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernest O. Wollan, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that although physicist Ernest Wollan pioneered neutron diffraction, he did not share in the Nobel Prize that was awarded for the technology? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest O. Wollan. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thank you from the DYK project and me Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 5 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hackney Chapel AME Zion Church, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a survey of rural African-American churches in Tennessee found Hackney Chapel (pictured) to be "one of the oldest and least altered"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hackney Chapel AME Zion Church. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:01, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm going by this statement: "Any autoconfirmed registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose)". You could always modify the template and put yourself as nominator. I've commented on your talk page as I don't want the nom to be crowded with a wall of text not related to its promotions. EagerToddler39 (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That statement describes the reality that only autoconfirmed users can create a template. That was drafted as an explanatory statement and added to the DYK information pages sometime after the current template-based nomination mechanism was created (before that, nominations were created directly on the noms page, which anyone can edit). I can see why you interpreted that statement to indicate that submission of DYK nominations is some sort of right or privilege that is limited to autoconfirmed users, but that was never the intent. DYK has always encouraged the participation of anonymous contributors. --Orlady (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I never suggested that anons should be "block[ed] ... from participating in DYK". As you quite rightfully summarized on the nom page they are free to recommend nominations at the DYK project talk page. However I'll defer to your explanation of the situation. EagerToddler39 (talk) 06:38, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Belated thanks

I know this is very late but I wanted to thank you for your participation at my RfA. I was very inspired by the many that demonstrated fairness and compassion regardless of how they voted. Its the feeling of friendship and camaraderie that keeps me coming back. So, thank you for your participation and for your continued sense of fairness and compassion in all areas of WP. I look forward to continuing to work together in the days to come. Best wishes, — Keithbob • Talk • 21:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this nomination and see if it is ready for approval. The initial review was done by that IP-hopper who posted to WT:DYK last week, and I'd like someone who is clearly judging based on DYK rules to make sure it meets our criteria—the fact that "citation needed" templates were not considered important enough to have corrected prior to approval makes me wonder what else might have been overlooked. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:29, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 8 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Helen Fraser (feminist), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Helen Fraser was the first woman to be adopted as an official party candidate for parliament in Scotland? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Fraser (feminist). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have just been informed by a bot that there had been a discussion about an article that I had created and you had contributed to at Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Fraser (feminist) because of a particular fact that I included. It was nice to have been informed of this and it would have been nicer to have been informed of this before the discussion had been closed and a decision reached. I appreciate that as the nominator, the responsibility was not yours. It occurs to me that you may be interested in helping address an issue that I think important. I have a view about how the role of women has been undervalued by history and I think wikipedia has a moral duty to rectify this but has policies that prevent this from happening. I would be happy to ellaborate on this to the relevant person/people. Graemp (talk) 09:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Graemp. Discussion of your concerns about the DYK appearance seems to have occurred on several different pages, and it took me some time to sort it all out. The WP:DYK feature exists primarily to bring attention to new and newly expanded articles, as well as new Good articles. It does this by presenting interesting facts from those articles on the main page. I nominated the Helen Fraser article for DYK after seeing it on a list of new articles. Before I nominated the article, I checked the sources that I could access and I did some editing to the article, including revisions to eliminate what I perceived to be WP:Close paraphrasing of sources.

The statement in the article that I found most interesting for DYK was (in the original article version) "In 1922 she was the first woman to be adopted in Scotland as a parliamentary candidate when she was selected as National Liberal candidate for the Govan Division of Glasgow for the 1922 General Election." The wording of that sentence was confusing, so I looked at sources to make sure I understood what was meant by "being adopted in Scotland as a candidate". In the National Dictionary of Biography I found "After the war Helen was employed as a commissioner for National Savings, resigning in 1922 to stand as the Liberal candidate for Govan, the first woman to be adopted as an official candidate in Scotland." After reading that, I added the word "official" to the sentence in the article. It was clear to me that she was a candidate for UK parliament. When I wrote the hook I retained the wording "in Scotland" to ensure consistency with the sources (I thought there was a remote possibility that a woman "in England" had previously been named as a candidate to represent Scotland, so I didn't want to say "from Scotland"). In retrospect, it's apparent that the words "candidate for parliament in Scotland" could be misunderstood as indicating that she was a candidate for parliament of Scotland (that didn't occur to me because such a parliament didn't exist in her time), but several people (including me, as well as User:Victuallers, who you contacted about this) didn't think of that possibility. It's not uncommon for people who are familiar with a topic to fail to see how someone else could misinterpret their words; linking the word "parliament" to the UK parliament was a good "fix" to indicate the meaning.

You are hardly alone in thinking that Wikipedia needs to do a better job with women's history. I suggest that you get involved with the Women's History WikiProject here. (I have, however, been dismayed to find that the W.H. Wikiproject seems to have a restrictive definition of "history," such that most accomplishments by women in the last few decades are considered to be outside its scope.) --Orlady (talk) 06:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Victuallers asked me if I had done any similar articles and I flagged up Ursula Williams, but I understand that DYK runs a set of criteria that means it is 'too late' for this article to be nominated. If you are involved with promoting womens history month, this is the sort of article that might have an appeal. Graemp (talk) 10:55, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There's a learning curve involved in contributing to DYK -- starting with understanding those esoteric rules for article eligibility. Now that you've had this introduction, I look forward to your contributions in the future -- we are always looking for interesting content about women (not just in Women's History Month, but pretty much every day of the year). --Orlady (talk) 14:33, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 8 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marie Dollinger, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that runner Marie Dollinger represented Germany in three Olympic Games, broke Olympic records and set a world record, but never won an Olympic medal? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marie Dollinger. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Orlady, I was wondering whether you were planning to come back to this one now that Wnt has responded to your concerns, or if I should instead call for a new reviewer. If the latter, please let me know. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Orlady, I hope this finds you well. I have created Mohammad Samir Hossain at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Samir_Hossain. Will you please help me edit and make it a better article or stub! I know you are really an expert author having due knowledge on editing at wiki. Thanks Shoovrow Shoovrow (talk) 07:29, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 11 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Old Deery Inn, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Deery Inn avoided destruction in the American Civil War because its proprietor used bribery to secure its protection? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Old Deery Inn. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for your help Victuallers (talk) 18:24, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, we have the situation here that a pair of articles about a team of two lugers, both named Tobias, had their articles expanded with effectively the same 600+ character Olympics section (plus other material specific to each person), and each just barely makes the 5x expansion using that repeated material. Is this something where we could (or should) do an IAR and let both names (and articles) be bolded, or require that one of them be unbolded? (Another reviewer felt that the articles were padded a bit to get them up and over the 5x level.) Can you please take a look and decide what ought to be done? I've superseded the tick because of the duplicative expansion (which was only part of the new material), and will defer to your wisdom here. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for weighing in. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:58, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Orlady, I am glad that you went through the article. I have further expanded it. Will you be kind enough to pen through it a bit. Remember its Mohammad Samir Hossain. Take Care.Shoovrow (talk) 07:28, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 13 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that St. Paul's Episcopal Church (pictured) was described as Georgian on the outside, but "much more Gothic and much more Victorian" on the inside? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Paul's Episcopal Church (Chattanooga, Tennessee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:51, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear, Thanks for your kind help in editing Mohammad Samir Hossain. I have tried to change the lead sentence and this time its exactly as the reference presents, and the reference is also mentioned beside the word that can create question about verifiability. Still, if you feel like changing anything I shall always welcome. This time I have uploaded a free photo and I don't mind if the previous copyrighted one gets deleted to uphold wiki rule. Thanks. Bolton007 (talk) 04:30, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize, though, that one of the secondary sources you found, that William & Mary law review article, is in the article as a source (see note 52, the very last one). Daniel Case (talk) 03:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sunuvagun! However, I discounted that "Analysis and Commentary" section. I was hoping to see secondary sources get used to help support the parts of the article that describe the case, the opinion, and subsequent jurisprudence. --Orlady (talk) 04:02, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As you noted, there's still a lot of uncertainty there. I generally feel that most judges (or, let's be honest, their clerks) write in clear enough prose that summarizing and paraphrasing their opinions, with generous quotation, is sufficient. As for secondary sources, it's later decisions interpreting that decision that generally make the interpretation that counts (Honestly, I would class most appellate or higher opinions as secondary sources by our standards to begin with since, after all, they are really little more than commentary and analysis of the lower-court decision.

At some point in the future I might expand the article somewhat; I'd shore up the sources at that point. Daniel Case (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw your WT:NRHP discussion with Dudemanfellabra regarding the Jesse Whitesell House and Farm, as well as the stub you created. As the photographer for the images currently in the article, I can tell you that it's rather confusing on the ground, too; I wasn't quite clear what I should photograph in order to get elements of both the original and the increase. If I correctly understand your words, I agree with what you've said: although it was originally located just in Kentucky, it needs to be listed as a duplicate because the increase causes the listing to include resources on both sides of the border. Nyttend (talk) 04:01, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info, Nyttend. Your photos are, of course, the best part of the article I created. :-) --Orlady (talk) 13:05, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 20 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that St. Marks Presbyterian Church in Rogersville, Tennessee, was built in 1912 with separate entrances for men and women? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 20:38, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, can you please take this one under your wing? Nikkimaria had some objections, and I'm not entirely sure they've been answered. There was a suggestion at User_talk:Nikkimaria#Poultry that someone be found to look over sources—perhaps you could do whatever might be appropriate? If not, I think this one will remain stalled for the foreseeable future. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Was it the bad pun that put you off? ;-) If you aren't interested, I can certainly try to find someone else, maybe Crisco when he's fully recovered. Please let me know. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:00, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I started looking at it, but it was a bigger job than I had time for at the moment, and I forgot about it... Maybe I'll get to it soon. --Orlady (talk) 18:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, sorry about the size of it. If you can get back to it, that would be great. Thank you so much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:43, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Any idea what this photo has to do with Hackney Chapel? I uploaded it to Commons (it's from 1912), but I wasn't sure how it was related to the church, other than being located in Unitia. Bms4880 (talk) 03:50, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you have the right idea regarding "both being located in Unitia". Unitia School apparently was the black school in Unitia. There's a little bit of information about it in the sources for the Hackney Chapel article, but the sources didn't clearly indicate a relationship (unlike St. Marks Presbyterian Church (Rogersville, Tennessee) or Durham's Chapel School, where there is a strong connection between church and school).

The Middle Tennessee State University folks had (or possibly still have) a major project to survey historical black churches. Since other community institutions were closely related to the churches, I guess it seemed natural to their archivist to put that school photo into the same bin as the materials about the local black church. --Orlady (talk) 04:03, 22 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 23 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Mt. Zion CME Church (pictured) in Union City, Tennessee, has an unusual hipped ceiling? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mt. Zion Christian Methodist Episcopal Church. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed this by accident. Good work, especially since I appreciate my photos getting used :-) Did you find anything about whether the congregation is still in existence? Between the dilapidated appearance and the damaged historical marker (I vaguely remember seeing something about the marker getting hit by a truck), I got the impression that it wasn't used for religious purposes anymore. Nyttend (talk) 02:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't find anything when I researched the article, but after seeing your note, I looked again. I've updated the article. :-) --Orlady (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You did a nice job of expanding Christ Temple AME Zion Church to good Start level. Ammodramus (talk) 18:47, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Durham's Chapel School at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! czar ♔ 23:53, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 26 March 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Durham's Chapel School, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that after the U.S. Supreme Court declared school segregation unlawful, a segregated school in Tennessee received new kitchen equipment for use in classes that trained black girls to work as servants? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Durham's Chapel School. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks for this contribution from me and the DYK projectVictuallers (talk) 07:32, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, Gerda's latest comment contains the phrase "your turn", so I think she wants/needs/is expecting you to take the next step. Can you please take a look to see what needs to be done? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:36, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		Orlady, I hereby bestow upon you The Barnstar of Diligence for your continued commitment to maintaining the quality and excellence of Wikipedia's Did you know project. I've been a big fan of your contributions for many years now, and so I felt that it was fitting to commend your efforts with this small token of my esteem! -- Caponer (talk) 03:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Caponer! As you know, however, I am only one of many -- and some of the others are far more diligent. --Orlady (talk) 13:15, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, the creator has asked a question here, in a response to your previous comment. Did you want to answer it, or should I put out a call for a new reviewer? Please let me know if it's the latter. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:10, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That article had some gnarly issues with POV -- and also problems with presentation and sourcing. Rather than attempt a discussion with an elusive IP user, I've been editing it on-again and off-again (to the extent that my time and my limited patience with tabloid sources and opinionated blogs allow): edits since the anon's last comment. It's getting close to being ready. --Orlady (talk) 13:22, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Good to know it's being taken care of (and I very much understand about limited patience in that circumstance). BlueMoonset (talk) 14:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 3 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Philip Lindsley, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that Philip Lindsley declined the presidencies of Princeton, Transylvania University, Ohio University, and Dickinson College, but accepted the job at the University of Nashville? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Philip Lindsley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thank you for this article Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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On 9 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Adelia Armstrong Lutz, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that American artist Adelia Armstrong Lutz most liked to paint flowers, especially hollyhocks? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Adelia Armstrong Lutz. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Thanks from → Call me Hahc21) 16:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

...William 21:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm bothered by this post[3] of yours too. You accuse of someone of using multiple accounts. Where's your proof and why haven't you started an SPI? Didn't I hear someone not too long ago say 'serious allegations require serious evidence'?...William 22:04, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's not sockpuppetry when the former account is not currently blocked and is not currently in use. But I know a WP:DUCK when I see one, especially with all the IP ducks we've seen. --Orlady (talk) 03:50, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:SPS before editing into the United Bates of America anything that is sourced from a blog....William 02:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• [4] --Orlady (talk) 03:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• • And what's that supposed to mean?...William 03:16, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm campaigning against you now. That and your link above are possible proof of you violating WP:CIVIL You still ignore WP:SPS. For the second time, explain how a wedding announcement and miscarriage are trivia and helping in a campaign and who somebody supports for President isn't? Maybe I should be preparing an ANI post when I get up in the morning....William 03:56, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article is supposed to be about a television show. What has happened to these people since the show went off the air isn't relevant to the show. Stars on tv shows, marry divorce have kids etc. after their show goes off the air, but it isn't in the article on the show. Take The Andy Williams Show for just one example. A biography article on the Bates is where it would belong. If its RSd. FWIW Musdan77 thanked me for cutting the trivia and other things out of the article....William 04:14, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FTR, the edit that Musdan77 thanked you for was an edit whose main effect was to revert one of the edits in which DC788 had added a lot of the trivia that DC788 had been adding -- and I had been deleting -- over a period of several days. --Orlady (talk) 01:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing new about you campaigning against me. You already declared your intention [5][6] to follow my work looking for actions that you could attack me for. I refer in particular to your statement that I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!

As for the article, I started it as an article about the family (who are local to my county) before the TV series existed, but after the family seemed to have established notability due to their appearances on another reality TV show. Someone else later recast it as an article about the show. Many of my edits to the article have been aimed at removing unsourced personal details about family members that were added by fans; I've also sparred with this particular user, who has unusual theories about the need for reference citations to describe TV shows, and who believes that information that possibly could be extracted from studying a table should not be presented in text. As for the family, the family continues to receive a lot of attention (partly because continues to appear on that other reality TV show) and family members have been taking advantage of their reality-TV fame for political activities, including their widely documented support for Rick Santorum. The marriage has been in the article for some time, but enthusiasts keep trying to add redundant statements about it, accompanied by information about blog "announcements" of positive pregnancy tests and subsequent miscarriages. I continue to contend that even though a 22-year-old woman announces a miscarriage during the first 3 months of pregnancy in her family blog, that is still a bit of fundamentally private information that does not deserve to be preserved in an encyclopedia; apparently the other user agrees, as they also stopped adding that detail. --Orlady (talk) 12:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Undoing editor's work when they don't follow WP:SPS is something I do.(Not counting UBOA, at least 7 times in my last 5,000 edits[7]) I've written about the use of blogs as sources on my user page. Your failure at that, WP:CIVIL aka responding to my concerns with a link to CNN story about sadistic trolls, WP:IDHT ignoring multiple times my concerns with your edits, and WP:AGF is appalling. Your contradictory behavior at United Bates of America raises WP:COMPETENCE concerns or questions whether you're practicing WP:OWN. Example- You have labelled the same source both not a RS[8] and yourself used it[9] as a source. I'm practicing WP policy but you think its a campaign against you. The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing....William 13:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When you declared I'll be leading the charge for you at ANI and Arbcom till you resign or someone at wikipedia shows some guts around here to take away your absolute power to do harm to someone for absolute bullshit!, you clearly indicated why you are now scrutinizing me. This isn't random interest on your part.

As for your accusation of contradictory behavior, I believe you are confusing me with someone else. On what basis did you determine that I was responsible for that second diff of yours? That edit was by IP user 38.108.87.20. As it happens, that's one of the IPs used by the person who is currently editing as DC788. --Orlady (talk) 15:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're really very paranoid. I'm fixing wrong edits but you think its malicious. As I said above 'The only campaign being done against you is the one you yourself are practicing.'...William 22:58, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't want people to assume that your actions are motivated by personal animus, I suggest that you stop making statements like this and this. --Orlady (talk) 02:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Was this edit[10] not out of personal animus or was it due to total incompetence? I can cite at least three times, here's one of them[11] and here's another[12] where you were told your actions were wrong. Whether your answer is A or B, you shouldn't be an administrator. Resign before you once again bring disgrace to Wikipedia or cause harm to someone who didn't do anything to deserve it. Your block of me was overturned because you were dead wrong and you can't admit it. In the meantime I will continue to make sure youf and no other administrator does to some other editor what you did to me. There is nothing wrong with that kind of scrutiny either. Sphilbrick said[13] I didn't have to shut up when he unblocked me. When I am checking on you, if I see articles you worked on that can use further work, I'll continue doing that....William 22:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comment at my talk. On a totally unrelated matter, as you've probably guessed if you've looked at my latest series of major edits to NR lists, I'm planning another photo trip, which will take me almost through your neck of the woods as well as through lots of other areas all over the place. As far as you're aware right now, are there any big construction projects (or other plannable things, versus problems like car accidents) on I-75 between Chattanooga and Knoxville? The goal is to go to church in Dayton on the morning of the 20th and then go a little past the Cumberland Gap that afternoon; I especially don't feel like getting stuck in a traffic jam if it's something that all the locals (and semi-locals like you) already know about. Nyttend (talk) 02:20, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's an ambitious plan for a 3-day road trip! (I hope you're planning on a bit longer than 3 days, if you want to cover that much territory and take pictures, too.)

I haven't been to Chattanooga recently, so I'm not aware of any construction on I-75 in that direction. The Tennessee DOT website is a fairly good source of info on roadwork on the Interstates, though. Anyway, if you want to go to Dayton, you probably are going to be away from I-75 for a substantial part of your trip. US 27 and state route 58 are a lot more interesting than I-75.

There is a major construction project on I-640 in Knoxville that is causing traffic delays, particularly during rush hour. That's relevant to you because I-75 is concurrent with the western leg of I-640 (I-640W), but I believe that the current construction is on I-640E. Anyway, if you are on a photo trip, your route north from Knoxville to Cumberland Gap might not include I-75.

When traveling in this area, you need to be aware that the ridges and valleys trend SW-NE. Travel across the grain of the topography (for example, on roads like US 25-E) can be slower than the linear distance suggests it should be, but it's often interesting. --Orlady (talk) 03:16, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response! I hadn't at all thought of checking the TDOT website, and now that you suggested it, I've found their helpful Smartmap. I'll definitely remember your comment about the across-the-ridge driving — with one exception, all my hill-country driving has been in places like southern Indiana, where the ridges go in random directions, so no direction is naturally simpler or quicker than others. I've got a campsite reservation at Mousetail Landing on Friday night, Saturday I'll work my way to Dayton by way of MS/AL/GA/SC/NC (my parents have friends there, so I'll be indoors one night), another campsite reservation in Harlan County KY on Sunday night, and then north to Ohio to visit family for a week. Definitely not trying to get Indiana-style dense photo coverage or making long detours anywhere on this trip (except for the occasional county with just one or two sites), so the goal is to get something in six states that I've not visited in a long time (or never), and at least one site in almost every county through which I pass. Re your comment about "might not include I-75", I'm looking to go east to Athens and then northeast, and it was a debate between going interstate (and getting off for photos) or just staying on US11 until hopping on the interstate at Lenoir City and taking it as far as northern Knoxville's US441 exit, then state highways toward US25E at Tazewell. I guess I'll stay on I-40 through downtown Knoxville and skip the beltway. Nyttend (talk) 04:28, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I-40 through Knoxville lacks charm, but you will get a glimpse of the Sunsphere. --Orlady (talk) 20:58, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Orlady, assuming you're still active in the category of "Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles," could I inquire if there's a way to see the version of Alexander McCurdy that was deleted in 2008, according to User_talk:Rbiswanger#Speedy_deletion_of_Alexander_McCurdy? I'm working on the current version of the article, whose history started in 2009 -- and for comparison I'd be very interested to see the article's previous incarnation that disappeared in 2008. Thanks very much for your help, or if you can point me in the right direction. -Patrug (talk) 04:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've been talkpagestalking at my talkpage, so I might as well return the favor :-) Patrug, the entire contents were as follows:

Alexander McCurdy was an acclaimed organ teacher at Philadelphia's Curtis Institute of Music and was also organist of the city's First Presbyterian Church. Among his many notable students are Michael Stairs, Keith Chapman and John Binsfeld.

It was deleted under speedy criterion A7, and it was definitely a good candidate. Nyttend (talk) 04:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Got it -- thanks for the quick response! Patrug (talk) 06:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

		The Premium Reviewer Barnstar
		Thank you, Orlady, very much indeed for your tireless and patient hard work and skill in getting the complex article William Swinden Barber through its DYK preparation! Storye book (talk) 17:24, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the recognition. Meanwhile, I congratulate you on the article! --Orlady (talk) 20:45, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! --Storye book (talk) 21:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, thank you for reviewing and editing the article for Diamond Ranch Academy! I forgot to mention this in my initial comment on the talk page, but there are also two words in the top section that the past editor added without providing adequate citation. I'm wondering if you could look into this as well? These are the words "misdemeanors" and "felonies" in the first section. Thank you for all of you help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cosettej (talk • contribs) 18:16, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, color me corrected. I don't quite see the point of omitting relevant links while maintaining lists of marginally-related ones, but it does tell me here that it a general rule not to include in a "see also" something that is otherwise referenced in the article. [14]. Who knew? :) Well, I suppose I ought to... I'd still make the case for including his father in this list, since when he appears in the article, it's basically as his father. The rest of the "See Also" list is so marginally related as to be slightly wacky - not at all related by facts, only partially related by chronology, and only tenuously related by topic. The topic, obviously, is "other architects who have lived in Knoxville at any point in time in their lives," but out of a list of hundreds of people who would fit that bill, being that there are four who have existing Wikipedia articles, excluding one because he happens to be Charles' father certainly, to my mind, muddles whatever the purpose of the list actually is. I'd argue, contrarily, that common sense would encourage leaving him there. Archarin (talk) 20:31, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has more policies and guidelines than any one person can possibly expect to be fully versed in... I happen to know about the guidelines for See also sections, and now you do, too!

Rather than adding bloat to the See also section, I suggest that the article could be developed so that (1) it contains more content about his connection to his father and the rest of the family and (2) any items on the "see also" list that are actually relevant to this article are linked within the text of the article. --Orlady (talk) 20:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady is right. Per WP:See also, the section should not contain links to other articles that are already linked to in either the article or any navbox that is in the article....William 13:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SEEALSO does state that "as a general rule". There are situations where a redundant see also link is appropriate, but those situations are not common. --Orlady (talk) 13:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 20 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ladies Rest Room, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a ladies' rest room is listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ladies Rest Room. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:34, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

The arbitration clarification request, either involving you, or in which you participated (Rich Farmbrough) has resulted in a clarification motion by the Arbitration Committee

The Clarification can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough#Clarifications_by_motion and the complete discussion can be found at Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Rich_Farmbrough#Clarification_request:_Rich_Farmbrough_.28April_2014.29 For the Arbitration Committee,--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:29, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Orlady, I know I might be asking too much from you now a days, still I like the way you paint an article. Will u please pen through Death and adjustment hypotheses at least for once? I know it might not be a topic you are expert on, but I need some wiki expert who would shape it as a better wiki-article.Bolton007 (talk) 14:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 23 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Fruitvale, Tennessee, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the community of Fruitvale, Tennessee, developed around a railroad switch? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Fruitvale, Tennessee. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:08, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

On 25 April 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Emerson Etheridge, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that after Emerson Etheridge returned to the U.S. Congress even though his state had seceded, he was made Clerk of the House of Representatives? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Emerson Etheridge. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 14:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Orlady,

This entry for Open University of Switzerland has reappeared in a different form ABMS Open University. This was deleted after AFD earlier this year. How does one proceed with this, recommend a PROD? Audit Guy (talk) 10:58, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted it as a recreation of an article deleted by AFD. --Orlady (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

but the article was made before as an advertisments, now i made just simple article. NO REASON TO DELETE --Mr.Agabi (talk) 17:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC) I am working there and if somebody wrote an article which was full of advertisments and unclear informations and you deleted doesnt mean you allowed to Delete any article written about ABMS GmbH, OTHERWISE we will Prosecute WIKIPEDIA if this unnecessary jokes stop now --Mr.Agabi (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article was deleted based on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. The advertorial style was not the main reason for deletion. The article was deleted because there were no reliable sources to indicate WP:Notability of the topic or to provide verifiable content for the article. If the only issue had been advertisement-like writing style, it could have been rewritten, but that was not the main issue. --Orlady (talk) 18:09, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

But Sorry we are new online business School in Switzerland how can you expect to see informations about us everywhere? check our website, you welcome to call us, and if in the article i wrote was anything unclear than please tell me, but just deleting because you didnt find enough sources, its normal because we are new, if you keep deleting than we must Prosecute as person and Wikipedia --Mr.Agabi (talk) 18:16, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you are misunderstanding the purpose and scope of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a platform for announcing or publicizing new organizations. Encyclopedia content must be based on content that has already been published somewhere else by reliable sources independent of the article's subject. Please see WP:NOT and WP:Notability for more information. --Orlady (talk) 18:24, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

but sorry i can show you 1 million article on wikipedia and dont have reliable sources and sorry you can find about us on Governments website and other website like QS-TopUniversities, Educations and many other websites, i can list 100 websites well known for education. tell me what is the solution now? can i write a normal article with reliable sources about or school OR we not allowed to write about our organization on Wikipedia because you decided we are not reliable sources? we need to know what to tell our lawyer when we start the case against you. thank you --Mr.Agabi (talk) 18:34, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

should i make another article with reliable sources like Governments website, QS... and than you have look on it, if OK tell me and keep it, and hope to solve this problem without going to court, because it will be just headache for both of us but if court is the only solution for us to be on wikipedia than we will do it. I am trying here to find a solution, i hope you too. please tell me should i create new article or no. thank you --Mr.Agabi (talk) 19:06, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that the sources you mention are not reliable sources for purposes of Wikipedia. A new article based on those sources would be subject to deletion based on the conclusion of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Open University of Switzerland. If you believe that the conclusion of that discussion was incorrect, I suggest that you contact the administrator who closed the discussion (write to him at User talk:Stifle). --Orlady (talk) 19:17, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A Governments website is not reliable sources thats new to hear... for sure now you tell me to contact somebody else --Mr.Agabi (talk) 19:22, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The government website indicates only that this institution is a registered business. That information does not indicate notability and it is not a sufficient basis for writing an article.

I will explain why I suggested that you contact User:Stifle. It is becoming clear that you will not accept what I am telling you. That means that your next step is to ask for a formal reconsideration of the deletion decision. The Wikipedia procedure for disputing a deletion decision says that your first step should be to contact the administrator who deleted the article. --Orlady (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, earlier you said you would prosecute Wikipedia for refusing to include this article. That is not a good way to convince other Wikipedia users to do something. In fact, threats of legal action can cause your editing access to be blocked. --Orlady (talk) 19:42, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Hi Orlady, Academy of Business Management article has now been created in place of ABMS Open University. It still lacks sources, and in my opinion continues not to be notable. I was wondering - were you contacted prior to its write up? Audit Guy (talk) 12:27, 3 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted that article as a recreation of an article deleted earlier by XfD. I was unaware of it before seeing your message. --Orlady (talk) 22:48, 9 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Thanks. Audit Guy (talk) 12:54, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for expanding the Fruitvale, Tennessee article. It was on Nyttend's Zipcode Directory and I started the article with help from The Catalyst31. Again my thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.

RFD (talk) 22:00, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was suspicious of that myself, but I didn't have the time to go through with the bureaucratic bits today; thanks for looking into it. You also might want to look into A1Houseboy, who has a similar pattern of editing (and is tied to this suspicious edit). TheCatalyst31 ^{Reaction•Creation} 04:19, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I had looked at that user briefly, but clearly I should have looked more closely. The recent edit on your talk page clinched it for me. I blocked that user temporarily and added the user name to the SPI case. --Orlady (talk) 04:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, given your issues with the earlier versions of this article, I was hoping you could stop by and check the finished version to see whether it now meets DYK standards. If you're not interested in reviewing it again, let me know here and I'll put the "again" icon on it. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:51, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Please don't pipe intentional disambiguation links like this - the "(disambiguation)" needs to be in the link itself to keep the page from showing up as an error. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:44, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The real issue should be with the person who created those disambiguation pages back in 2008 and didn't bother to interlink St. Paul's United Methodist Church and St. Paul's Methodist Church, but never mind that... --Orlady (talk) 00:29, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 15 May 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charles Inman, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that, as a member of the Tennessee legislature after the Civil War, Charles Inman supported measures to deny voting rights to former Confederates? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Inman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady,

Thank you for posting your explanation with your edits. While the institution is not accredited through an external agency, the references to the U.S. Armed Services warning about diploma mills is not relevant in this situation. Hyles-Anderson College is approved for for VA Benefits through the Indiana Commission for Postsecondary Proprietary Education. The four warnings listed in the linked reference page do not apply:

• The school does not require studying, tests or essays.
• The school boasts of accreditation, i.e., “fully, nationally or worldwide accredited,” but has no legitimate accreditation.
• The school relies on “portfolio assessments” or “life experience.”
• The school advertises through e-mail messages sent to millions.

The reference cited in regard to public schools not accepting unnacredited degrees is a broken link (http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos069.htm#training) and gives a blanket statement that does not give a true representation of the degree programs offered. Pandeboyce (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In this edit[16] of yours you removed the category 'People from Washington County, Tennessee'. I am relinking 'People from Kingsport, Tennessee' to that category because that city is partially in Washington County. Consensus is that if a 'People from' city category is even a slightest bit in multiple counties, it gets categorized in all of them. Please note 'People from Johnson City, Tennessee' and how its categorized in three 'People from' county categories though most of the city lies in Washington County....William 18:57, 2 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to lecture me about an edit I made over 4 years ago. I suppose you find it gratifying to take me to task for every mistake I ever made.

As it happens, I didn't even make the mistake you accuse me of. If you read the history, you will see the category had been configured to include all people from any part of a 4-county area as "people from Kingsport." My edit changed the category description to indicate that it is only for people from Kingsport, and not also people from places like Bristol, Virginia, and I removed it from inappropriate categories like Category:Bristol, Virginia and Category:People from Washington County, Virginia. Contrary to your allegations here, I didn't remove it from Category:People from Washington County, Tennessee -- because it wasn't previously in that category. --Orlady (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you were instrumental in creating the page on Betty Bumpers, also with the information on Peace Links. I just had a page sanitized concerning an event that Betty and Peace Links were involved with a number of years ago. I was wondering if you would consider being of some assistance to getting some information restored and a image. Thank you 24.251.41.161 (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I addressed your concerns on the DYK for Gilbert & Sullivan Opera Company at the nomination's entry. Please see if it looks ok to you now. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at the changes, and I've not replied because I'm not sure what I think. --Orlady (talk) 03:18, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 25 June 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic District, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the courthouse on the public square in Shelbyville, Tennessee, is the successor to earlier courthouses that were destroyed by tornado, wartime misadventure, and a lynch mob? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shelbyville Courthouse Square Historic District. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 16:04, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

		The 100 DYK Nomination Medal
		Congratulations for reaching this milestone of making other editors' articles visible from the main page. Keep up your good work! Oceanh (talk) 16:38, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Orlady. I recall the good work you did on the Hillsdale College article, which included a lot of primary sourced description and other text. I wonder whether you could have a look at the Stefan Molyneux article, on which several editors have expressed concerns about the sourcing. Any participation there would be appreciated. Thanks. SPECIFICO talk 03:12, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re a posting by me that you responded to. I just want you to know my comment was not meant as a slip-up on your part, but a comment on mine. I think our nerves are a little edgy these days. Bad karma does that. I've not nominated anything since the gang blew into town. It's just too unpleasant to think about. Not that there isn't room for betterment straight across WP. But that's getting lost behind barf bag behavior. I realize you have been targeted lately. As has everybody, it seems, who dares to breathe and exist on the planet. Some sure know how to suck the joy right out of the room, but you would not be one of those. Didn't want any misunderstanding coming from me. — Maile (talk) 19:03, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining your words. I must say that I was perplexed by what seemed like negativity from you. I'm sorry that I responded as I did. My nerves are most definitely on edge these days whenever I go near DYK. This too shall pass, I hope... --Orlady (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So we're cool with each other now. I enjoy running across your work now and then over in the "greenest state in the land of the free", over in Davy's stomping grounds. — Maile (talk) 19:10, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes, that interesting man who much preferred to be "David", but apparently is "Davy" forevermore. After you created the category recently, I was pleased to help populate it... --Orlady (talk) 19:20, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think I made an initial comment on the TN project that it would be good to see that article as FA. And it would. However, since I made that comment, I've had a small experience on the Featured level: FA, FL, FLC and a GA, with the intent of reaching FTC. None of which I started out to do with my first cleaning up of references tagging on the original article. A learning curve, to be sure. And a learning curve that makes me realize that even if I had every resource ever published, I could never get Death controversy past the first hurdles. But I can dream that someone else can. — Maile (talk) 19:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the whole, I'd rather work on creating "good enough" content than on collecting "credits" from GA, FA, etc. I did shepherd a couple of lists through FL a long time ago, and I did a number of FLC reviews. I learned a good bit from that experience. I also have done a very wee bit of GA reviewing, and I had a small role in supporting Hawkeye7's eff ort that got Manhattan Project promoted to FA. That article had been subject to a good bit of edit warring before the FA campaign, and since then it's been pretty stable. If you ever get the courage to attempt something similar for Davy, maybe it would put an end to the battles over his death. Or maybe not... --Orlady (talk) 20:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working 18 months on Audie Murphy. What started out as one poorly written article has now become six separate articles/lists on him personally, plus one about his book, and two others about a museum and hospital named for him. Who would have known? Sources on Murphy are limited. It's not at the end of the line yet. It taught me a great deal about editing at WP and how a really-properly formatted article should be. I owe a lot to the folks at WP:MILHIST for that. I can see separate articles on Crockett, for his Congressional career and for his death. Way more sources to pour through on him than Murphy.

Re Crockett's death, I prefer to believe the people who were actually inside the Alamo and attest to where he died. Even if we AGF that de la Peña told it as he believed it to be...how did he identify who was who? No photo IDs in those days. Probably didn't have their names sewn into their underwear. We don't to this day know 100% who was inside the mission, so they didn't have a list of names. What was to stop somebody from claiming to be celebrity David Crockett in hopes of being given preferential treatment? I did see Discovery channel MythBusters on this. I believe they said de la Peña's diary was written by different people over different periods of time. However...as we are living through right now...there are those among us who want to keep an argument going just to feel important. — Maile (talk) 21:24, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot fix this typo (government) and I noticed that someone wrote stuff like:

"The Council are having to sell off assets because for two decades their chief executives for some reason best known to themselves were not aware that women were being underpaid, and this initiated a flood of claims from other employees past and present with crippling results to Birmingham's prestige as the Second City. Liam Bryne the Labour MP for Hodge Hill has so far failed to support residents in their fight to have these sub-standard and dangerous blocks bulldozed."

on the Bromford article but I am unsure what to do. Poveglia (talk) 03:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your efforts to correct misspellings of "government." That's a good way to get started as an editor of Wikipedia.

You couldn't correct the typo in State of Palestine because that article is protected from editing by newly registered users -- a restriction that helps prevent the frequent addition of opinionated rhetoric, like the content you found at Bromford.

I fixed the problems you detected in both articles, and I added a comment at Talk:Bromford. --Orlady (talk) 03:33, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot for your help! I may have to declare war on goverment. Poveglia (talk) 23:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for bothering you again but I found more "opinionated rhetoric" here. I started by fixing the typo, but then I reverted back to Dual Freq's version. The IP is blocked now but I am not sure if the most recent edit should be reverted. Thanks again, Poveglia (talk) 02:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That last edit was OK. The content that was deleted didn't belong in an encyclopedia article. See WP:NOTNEWS and WP:UNDUE for perspective on the Wikipedia policies that indicate why that content didn't belong here. --Orlady (talk) 13:15, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Would I be safe in assuming that there's no longer any chance for my DYK? I'm new to Did you know, so I don't know how this works. G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 00:15, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. We are waiting for a new reviewer to appear at Template:Did you know nominations/Paratropis tuxtlensis and evaluate the hook that I suggested. I expect that the hook will be approved, but I can't approve it because I wrote it. --Orlady (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Okay. Thanks for the reply! G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 13:55, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 13 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Argentine quota law, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the 1991 Argentine quota law, which sets minimum quotas of female candidacies to legislatures, was emulated by eleven other Latin American countries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Argentine quota law. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 11:24, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Orlady, your name came up in the history of the page so I figured I will approach you with this problem. The above linked article was stable for a number of years with the name Palestinian land laws. An editor came along moved it three times in one day and finally decided on the name above. This is obviously a controversial move and this should have gone through the process at WP:RM. It can only be moved back by an administrator which is why I come to your talk page. Can you please move it back so the stable name so that any proposal should go through the proper process required for such non-technical moves. Many thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:27, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 24 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee), which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the wealthy couple who built the Episcopal church in Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee, had shocked Nashville society with their 1864 marriage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Calvary Episcopal Church (Cumberland Furnace, Tennessee). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 21:43, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

On 29 July 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George A. Dickel, which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that George A. Dickel, who gave his name to a brand of Tennessee whiskey, immigrated to the United States from Germany? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George A. Dickel. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 02:54, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I'm WilliamJE. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. For your less mature editor comment at User talk:EEng. ...William 13:21, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How lovely to know that you are continuing in your personal vendetta against me, User:WilliamJE. The folks who created Wikilove will surely be gratified to see the tool being used for personal attacks. --Orlady (talk) 14:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Orlady, I was wondering whether you could take a look at this. The article was apparently expanded by banned user Russavia using an IP, and probably using a different IP to intervene in the DYK discussion. It's been sitting for 19 days; I'd like to get it broken free by an admin who better understands the issues around banned users, since I can remember some instances of nominations getting closed and some where they were preserved (though that difference might be due to self-nominations not surviving, while noms by others were retained). Thanks for anything you can do here; if you'd rather not weigh in, I'll see who else might be willing to do so. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On 4 August 2014, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bemis, Tennessee, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the designer of the company town of Bemis, Tennessee tried to make the community look like it had grown over time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bemis, Tennessee. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, orlady. Since you have edited this page in the past, I wanted to let you know that there is a NPOV issue on the latest revision to the Kevin Huffman page. It was made by Sallysuzzi at 04:34, 23 July 2014.

The added text is as follows:

"Since his appointment, Huffman has become known for messing up Tennessee's education system with unfair teacher evaluations. A record breaking number of teachers have left the profession due to Huffman's tactics. Children as young as age 5 had to take developmentally inappropriate standardized test under Huffman's lead. The SAT-10 test that many of the students took for teacher evaluation purposes was not based on Tennessee state standards. This means teachers were and still are evaluated based on a test that does not cover the material they teach. As a result many teachers have lost their jobs and a campaign has been launched by many state representatives and others calling for his resignation."

Thanks for taking a look at this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.142.177.102 (talk) 15:25, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the alert. I edited the article. --Orlady (talk) 15:42, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Orlady:

List of municipalities in Tennessee is outdated, and not, in its current state, one of Wikipedia's best. Thus, I'm nominating it for featured list removal. The relevant discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of municipalities in Tennessee/archive1. Thanks. Seattle (talk) 15:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi orlady,

The subject article was published this past weekend, and I've been trying to get it placed in WikiProject areas that make the most sense. I believe HOP Ranch may fit better in American Old West than anywhere else.

I also feel strongly that it is well beyond start class. I think it's at least class B. I'm wondering if you might consider reviewing it and evaluating for yourself.

Thanks in advance!

Dnforney (talk) 23:46, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello User:Orlady, I am a relatively new editor and I saw a message on the Administrator Noticeboard saying that DYK was overdue. I would like to help as much as humanly possible, so I have proceeded to do 4 DYK reviews. Before doing so I read the DYK guidelines. The reviews I have done are:

• Template:Did you know nominations/Harold Cressy
• Template:Did you know nominations/Beck's tree frog
• Template:Did you know nominations/Lena Nyadbi
• Template:Did you know nominations/Open-crotch pants‎

I would be happy to do more if there is a need for it. I saw your name on one review so before I do more could you please review my reviews and advise me if I am doing everything ok. Many thanks, PNGWantok (talk) 19:50, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you visit the Concordia College and University article? I know you have history on it and I'm hoping you can help resolve a conflict. There is information in the talk page under Location section changes.

Thanks