User talk:Dtobias

See also Archive 1 (20 Dec 2004 - 16 Jun 2006), Archive 2 (30 Jul 2006 - 19 Aug 2007), Archive 3 (24 Aug 2007 - 04 Apr 2008), Archive 4 (06 Apr 2008 - 31 Mar 2010), Archive 5 (12 May 2010 - 10 Jun 2019), and Archive 6 (12 Sep 2019 - 04 Apr 2024)

Precious

Five years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! *Dan T.* (talk) 18:21, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Trilletrollet. Thank you. — Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 03:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Snokalok (talk) 19:36, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a report involving you at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement regarding a possible violation of an Arbitration Committee decision. The thread is Dtobias. Thank you.

Give it a minute, they make us give notice before the thread goes up Snokalok (talk) 00:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dan, replying to your question here in order not to distract the more bureaucratic process there with these side comments. And I hope you'll forgive me being blunt with my thoughts, which are based upon spending an hour yesterday reviewing your talkpage/board contributions in the GENSEX area.

It is clear that you have well-developed views about gender identity (which is fine!) and that you wish for these views to be reflected both in wikipedia content and in how wikipedia treats related sources etc (which is also fine, and perhaps even healthy with regards to achieving neutrality). The problem as I see it is that in arguing your case, you seem to have lost sight of how to be most effective in achieving the latter goal and have instead started reveling in striking rhetorical blows and hurting the other, esp. transgender, discussants; your intelligence and facility with language even makes you "good" at doing this. This is not fine since, judging purely in terms of its on wiki effect and ignoring real-life ethics, it makes it more difficult to collaborate, achieve consensus and build an encyclopedia.

To briefly exemplify these observation by looking at the analogies that were brought up at AE:

• The problem with "transgenderism" as religion or Big Brother analogies, even if you wished to focus on the parallels narrowly, is that they come with so much cultural baggage (cf Godwin's law), that they tend to inflame and derail discussions (aside: also worth introspecting why one would pick Islam as the religion for comparison, even if that choice was not a conscious one).
• The mental illness analogy is even less excusable in that I can't even think of reason for stooping to it beyond trying to cause pain.

I don't imagine that you will suddenly agree with my readings but I hope you'll give some thought to how your communication style in this area appears to an outside observer with no axe to grind. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Being blunt is fine… that's what I want. You've given me a lot to think about. *Dan T.* (talk) 10:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following topic ban now applies to you:

You are indefinitely topic banned from gender-related disputes or controversies and associated people, broadly construed.

You have been sanctioned as a result of this AE report

This topic ban is imposed in my capacity as an uninvolved administrator under the authority of the Arbitration Committee's decision at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender and sexuality#Final decision and, if applicable, the contentious topics procedure. This sanction has been recorded in the log of sanctions. Please read WP:TBAN to understand what a topic ban is. If you do not comply with the topic ban, you may be blocked for an extended period to enforce the ban.

If you wish to appeal the ban, please read the appeals process. You are free to contact me on my talk page if anything of the above is unclear to you. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:07, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]