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Happy New Year Dear Liz. Please revive this draft for me so I can work on its text and new Independent and secondary sources:Draft:Mehdi Mirza Mehdi Tehrani.Thanks for your help as always.—Patricia (Talk) 09:39, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

please guied and help me. You don't answer my request probably cus your busy or for holiday. Anyway I hope you be well.Best.—Patricia (Talk) 11:03, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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On 25th October 2023 (of last year) you deleted a draft titled One Air. The deletion notice says to contact you if I am unsure that I am creating the same article. What was that deleted draft about? Thanks Njsky (talk) 04:49, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Njsky,

I apologize for this delayed response. This User talk page gets a lot of traffic and I often fall behind in responding to queries. Luckily, I have some very helpful editors who watch this page and sometimes step up to offer assistance.

I'd be happy to help you but you need to provide me a link to the exact page you are concerned about. Then I can see why it was deleted which will determine what I can do about it. Again, I'm sorry for the wait. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:06, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A page titled One Air (deleted in 2016) and a draft by the same name (created prior to the current draft under that name). Njsky (talk) 02:09, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Liz,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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On further reflection, I do think these should be considered project categories, as we are constantly receiving new uploads of biographical images, which should be categorized by year of publication if the data is available. Therefore, there is reason for the categories to exist, even if empty. BD2412 T 23:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, BD2412,

I just go by the Empty Categories list, if there is an {{emptycat}} tag on a category, the bots ignore it completely. It's what is used on most WikiProject categories which are sometimes empty. Sorry for my delay in replying to you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont think that Operation Snowball was relisted correctly at 22DEC2023 AFD. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Jax 0677,

XFDCloser sometimes has problems with relisting discussions. I'll look into this. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:49, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Liz! I saw you closed the AFD for Stephen Jacob Jimbangan and I'm wanting to know if how it looked at deletion is similar enough to how it looks now and would be valid for a G6. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{blaze__wolf} 03:36, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Blaze Wolf,

I didn't do a careful analysis but at first glance, this current version is much more expansive and detailed. The version that was deleted was very short and had a lot of charts regarding elections which this article doesn't have. But I'll review it again tomorrow morning when my eyes are fresh. I don't think it's an automatic CSD G4 though. THe previous version was written by an editor who was later blocked. Is there any indications of sockpuppetry here? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:47, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, I have always seen that you are one of Wikipedia's active administrators. And thank you so much for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please include this matter in your note. I'm writing to you because I didn't get a satisfactory response on Teahouse. Note that I'm not criticizing anyone in particular. I would just like to know if that is correct or incorrect.

"I think this is a serious issue for Wikipedia decorum. Today i noticed a user named User:Sush150 frequently adding Bollywood Hungama website links as references on Wikipedia's various articles. I checked his recent contribution on the pages below and found Bollywood Hungama is used very frequently as references: Singham Again, Murder Mubarak, Maddock Films, List of Hindi films of 2024, List of Hindi films of 2023, List of Hindi films of 2021, List of Hindi films of 2020, Kareena Kapoor Khan filmography, Tiger Shroff, List of highest domestic net collection of Hindi films, Dunki (film), Tiger 3, Fighter (2024 film), Jawan (film), Akshay Kumar filmography.

These are few i found, but i am sure there is a long list. Macbeejack ☎ 10:21, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Macbeejack,

I have to ask, what is the status of Bollywood Hungama on the list of reliable sources, especially the list of ones from India? Sush150 is a longtime editor and I would guess familiar with the rules of adding external links and sources. I glanced at a few of their edits and they used other sources as well. Typically, in these types of complaints, the editor in question is a brand new editor who is trying to promote a media source or who is not familiar with sourcing guidelines but that doesn't seem to be the case here. If you think they are overusing this source, you could pose them a question or query about it on their User talk page. Or, if you have questions about whether or not this is a reliable source, it would be worth starting a discussion on the Reliable Source noticeboard. But I don't see anything immediately that would warrant admin action. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:11, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You for your response. Understood. Macbeejack ☎ 03:23, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please tell me why my article got deleted? They say too soon but the same reviewer also reviewed my 2027 Netball World Cup page and that was fine, despite it being almost 2 years after the 2025 Women's World Floorball Championships would've ended. So, in my opinion, I think that it's a bogus excuse. Then you could say that the article was not very good, but I heavily improved it with many Czech articles giving me very useful information for the article. I'm sick of people making bogus arguments about this article and not giving a proper reason for its deletion. To me, it comes across as one of the reasons for the article being deleted is simply because it's Floorball, a relatively niche sport, and that if it was football, it would've been kept. Once again, can people please give me a proper answer? ILoveSport2006 (talk) 11:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ILoveSport2006,

Please give me a link to the page you are concerned about and then I can see why it was deleted. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the link: 2025 Women's World Floorball Championships (it's a draft right now but it's the same as the original article). I made it a draft for now so that my work on the article wasn't a waste of time. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 19:07, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ILoveSport2006,

Well, that article was deleted via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2025 Women's World Floorball Championships which just closed. You can see the reasons editors offered for its deletion in this discussion.

It's very hard to overcome an AFD delete decision, the only way I know is to create a draft version and submit it to WP:AFC for review. The AFC reviewer will see if the new draft has overcome the problems pointed out at the AFD discussion. But since it is a 2025 event, it might just be TOOSOON for this article to be in main space. At least, the article was moved to Draft space instead of being tagged for CSD G4 speedy deletion. I don't think taking this route through Draft space is a "waste of time", it's how articles that have been deleted through AFD discussions are recreated.

One last thought though, if it is too soon for an article about an 2025 event, you might keep a draft in your User space like a sandbox, then you don't have to worry about it being deleted through CSD G13 speedy deletion. I realize this is not the answer you wanted to hear but it's what I know from working on this project and seeing many, many articles and drafts deleted through the CSD, PROD and AFD processes. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for responding and thanks for giving me advice, but you didn't really answer my question. I'm asking why it was deleted, I can't see it being too soon, because the same reviewer didn't tag my 2027 Netball World Cup for deletion. The article meets all the requirements. It has numerous reliable sources, multiple sections and many primary and third party references. Also, I made it a draft, to make sure that my hard work it didn't get all deleted. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 21:32, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I am going to submit it for review now. Let's hope that works. ILoveSport2006 (talk) 21:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi sorry to disturb, i'm new on wikipedia can you help me recovering data from the page: world rafting federation - i need to move it into my sandbox but i'm learning how - at the moment i don't have a draft. Thanks for your time! Serioushaha (talk) 18:51, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Serioushaha,

Can you give me a link to the deleted article or draft you are talking about? If you are talking about how to create an article from scratch, you'll get more help by going to the Teahouse or Articles for Creation. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for your quick answer: it was this article here: User:World Rafting Federation.

this is the message i received:

This page does not exist. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference.

18:17, 4 January 2024 Liz talk contribs deleted page User:World Rafting Federation (U2: Userpage or subpage of a nonexistent user) Tag: Twinkle (thank)

18:17, 4 January 2024 Liz talk contribs moved page User:World Rafting Federation to Draft:World Rafting Federation (Moving to Draft space, not a User) (revert) (thank) Serioushaha (talk) 20:31, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Serioushaha, I see you've posted this request in a few different places. Your deleted article was restored earlier by Ritchie333, and since then it has moved a few times but is now live at Draft:World Rafting Federation. You can work on it there. If you would like to move it anyway, the move dialog works like this: below the "new title" line are two boxes. The first is a drop-down where you select a "namespace" (the part of the title before the colon). All Wikipedia pages live in one of these namespaces, including articles (which the dropdown indicates by "(Article)", since the titles of articles don't include the namespace). The second box is for the rest of the title. Right now, the page is in the "Draft:" namespace, and has the title "World Rafting Federation". Your sandbox is located at User:Serioushaha/sandbox - if you wanted to move the page to your own sandbox, you would select the "User:" namespace, and enter the title "Serioushaha/sandbox". Sorry if that's confusing but that's how it works. You can always ask for help, too! Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 20:48, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. So if i've doin correct now i moved it to the sandbox where i can work on without any problems right? Cause it's not published yet? Serioushaha (talk) 21:18, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year Dear Liz. Please revive this draft for me so I can work on its text and new Independent and secondary sources:Draft:Mehdi Mirza Mehdi Tehrani.Thanks for your help as always. —Patricia (Talk) 20:38, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Patricia Mannerheim,

 Done Restoring a draft deleted by the request of the page creator is an easy thing for an admin to do! But there is an AFC tag from a submission in August 2023 that you might want to remove unless you want it to be reviewed immediately. I hope this helps. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So much thanks. It was helpful to me. But of course I want removed that tag.what can I do? BEST. —Patricia (Talk) 21:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I see you reverted the renaming of Embassy of Angola, Ottawa. That name is incorrect, so fixing it is a major part of keeping the article. Could you point to the policy that articles cannot be renamed mid-AFD? It seems counter the spirit of AFD which is to give an opportunity to fix flawed articles to avoid deletion. - SimonP (talk) 02:51, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, SimonP,

I don't know if I can locate a line in policy but at this point, I've closed hundreds if not thousands of AFD discussions and I'm in line with practice. Articles are not supposed to be moved to different page titles in the middle of an AFD discussion primarily because it messes up the relisting and closing process which uses XFDCloser. It doesn't understand when the article is at a different page title than the AFD page title and it takes extra time to clean up the mess.

I assume that this is what started this practice and I can only guess that in your admin career, you haven't closed many deletion discussions since we moved to using XFDCloser. That's where the practice has come from and when pages are moved during an AFD discussion, admins and participating editors routinely moved them back to their original location. This is not just a quirk I follow. But I'll look into whether or not it has been mentioned anywhere in official policy. Like I said, if the article is Kept, feel free to move the article to a more appropriate page title. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:21, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I remember !voting an RfC on this issue, Template talk:Article for deletion#RFC: Add Instruction Not to Move. It closed with consensus that "moving a page within mainspace is a perfectly possible way to improve an article while it is being nominated for deletion". The XFDCloser issues are real, though, so I'd encourage anyone who does move a page during an AfD to write in bold "Note to closer: this page has recently been moved, so please make sure the closure was carried out correctly" or something like that. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 05:10, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extraordinary Writ, that's my memory, too, that it isn't "forbidden" but it is discouraged. I'm sorry if my actions left the impression that some violation had occurred, I was just trying to make things easier for the AFD closer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I just replied to the IP at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GoGoGo Airheart.I am frankly appalled that you judged a silly comment such as "This dude produced less (and considerably worse) music, but no one's taking him down" as worthy of attention (let alone the baseless PROD). Cavarrone 09:39, 5 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Cavarrone,

I'm sorry that you're "appalled". You disagreed with my nomination and removed the PROD tag. That's how the system works. As for me, no one is perfect. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:15, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of TV Tonight Awards 2020. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Yours sincerely, TechGeek105 (his talk page) 04:12, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, TechGeek105,

Thanks for letting me know. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:13, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

	The Double Pendulum of determination
	Wanted to let you know your hard work at the AFD does not go unnoticed. Cheers! UnexpectedSmoreInquisition aka USI (talk) 07:19, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, UnexpectedSmoreInquisition,

I've never heard of a Double Pendulum of determination but I'll take it as a compliment. I don't put in as much time at AFD as Daniel does but I try to do my part when I have time. Thanks for the acknowledgment! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:24, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had to think of something that used alliteration. I don't go to AFD much but see your relists frequently there. UnexpectedSmoreInquisition aka USI (talk) 07:27, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year Liz! May this new year bring happiness and prosperity into your life. With the light of the true path, Amen.

Once again, thanks for your kind intervention on my talk page.

Maliner (talk) 08:36, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Maliner,

Well, thank you, I think "kind" is what I strive for. I'm glad it came across that way. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:40, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at that kitten picture reminds me that I just weighed my two cats this morning to see if they are gaining weight...Rusty is over 20 lbs and Ginger is a lighter 16 lbs. Compared to previous cats I've had, they are enormous but I hear that can happen with orange tabbies. But I do remember when they were the size of this kitten 3 years ago! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:42, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, FYI I was in the process of unstriking the comments when you closed. I assume it wouldn't have changed your close even if they were struck/unstruck, but if it would, please feel free to revert my edit. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 22:25, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Daniel,

Since we both patrol the AFD daily log, often at the same time at the end of the UTC day, it's inevitable that at times we would be editing the same open discussions at the same time! I had added a comment about how inappropriate it was for a nominator to strike the comments of a participating editor they disagreed with and just removed the scolding once I saw you had "unstruck" the remarks. I wish I had noticed that this had happened before I relisted the discussion and I would have commented about it then. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:39, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No problems at all - I have left some pretty pointed comments at the user's talk page, hopefully to prevent it from happening again. The first striking out of comments is some of the poorer behaviour I've seen at AfD in a while...! Daniel (talk) 22:41, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, I maintain the Farad, California Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/farad.california) which has a link to a page here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farad,_California) that you appear to have deleted for a few reasons you listed: (Expired PROD, concern was: Non-notable location. GNIS does not establish notability; reference 2 is a trivial mention as a site of river data collection; reference 3 is an unreliable GNIS regurgitator, and reference 4 is both broken and unreliable (WordPress). This appears to have just been a railway point beside the hydroelectric station; no other information found.)

I had not visited the Farad wiki page in a very long time and hadn't been aware that some of its information or links were considered too stale, unimportant, or unreliable for the page to stay published. Several of the recent visitors to the Farad FB page had alerted me to the absence of the Wiki page we linked to. Could you please undelete it for a while so I may attempt to fix these issues and add some new relevant information about it?

For instance, the history of the Farad power house (It was the first working hydroelectric power station on the east side of the Sierra mountain range, and was built to provide reliable power to Virginia City, NV and the equipment used in silver mining operations around the city), presence of a public, unmaintained hot spring-fed soaking pool, the maintained hiking trails, and that it's a good fishing spot. The location, sometimes referred to as Mystic, has a marked and well-maintained set of ramps along Interstate 80. It hosted a small settlement of men who were involved in building and maintaining the power station and its related upstream infrastructure for several years. People visit the place every day to explore, rest, hike, fish, and learn about its history from maintained information kiosk. I assure you, it's more than an unremarkable spot along a railway.

Since the last time I visited the Wiki page and created my own page for Farad on Facebook, I've found many more articles and pages with valuable and verifiable information about Farad's history and things it provides, and hope to update the wiki page accordingly. Many thanks of you could help us out. Erik Schorr (talk) 10:36, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Simply request the article be undeleted at WP:RFU; I agree that the subject has enough coverage in media to warrant an article, as in this Reno Gazette-Journal profile 47.188.28.132 (talk) 00:19, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This only points to the need for an article about the power plant and the amenities available there, because the notable subject is that power plant. Notability of the power plant doesn't transfer to the populated place if there ever was one. And, this is the reason people want to delete the article as it's masquerading as a populated place, and it isn't. Why don't you just write the appropriate article and let this populated place article die.James.folsom (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Liz,

You would not be knowing me but I know you even before I myself started editing wikipedia. I had nominated 2 articles previously for Afd namely Shivalik Public School and Darshan Singh Sur and both were ultimately deleted by you. So first, thanks for that. And the question that how do I know you before even joining wikipedia personally would most probably be the question due to which you would be reading till here. Once my dad also joined wikipedia but for some other reason and out of lack of knowledge of wikipedia's policies was going to make a wikipedia article about his own book and which was surely removed by admins but you were the one who told him about the policies and he told me that and I was feeling nostaglic.

Hello

Sorry to waste your time.

Hi Liz, Thanks for cleaning up my extra Mildred Barnes Royse page. I knew I had messed it up, but wasn’t sure how to fix it.

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T. E. Meeks (talk) 19:55, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, how are you? 147.50.104.227 (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I see you've nominated empty categories such as 1950 Australian films for deletion. I found Category:1959 Australian films, which is populated but probably shouldn't be as it seems to be our only remaining "yyyy Countrian films" category. I'm not a film or categorisation expert, but please get rid of it if appropriate. Thanks, Certes (talk) 20:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello I am @Chandrakant Kannake (Actor) I want to change my current real username for personal reasons and I want to keep my real name private please help me to change my username Chandrakant Kannake (Actor) (talk) 16:02, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• (talk page watcher) @Chandrakant Kannake (Actor): user renaming is a public action, meaning that people will be able to see that you changed your name from "Chandrakant Kannake (Actor)" to whatever your new username is. If you are looking for privacy, you would be better advised to retire this account entirely and start a new account under a newly created username. This is permissible as long as you don't use the new account in a way that deceives editors into thinking that multiple people are, for example, commenting in favor of an outcome in a discussion. BD2412 T 16:42, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Please sir I humbly request you help me to change my username @BD2412 Chandrakant Kannake (Actor) (talk) 16:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Instructions for such a request may be found at Wikipedia:Changing username. Wikipedia administrators no longer have the internal ability to change usernames. BD2412 T 16:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz - You are one busy gal! :)

I never got a reply to this question that I posted here back on 18 December. So I'm reposting it:

I just want to know the name of the editor who created the article at Draft:L Dee Fink that you deleted here a couple of years ago. And while you're at it, can you also tell me when that draft was posted?

Thanks! Anomalous+0 (talk) 03:49, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Anomalous+0,

I certainly don't mind you reposting a talk page message that I haven't gotten to. I can get behind on responding to messages. I'm sorry if that was frustrating to you.

In regard to your questions, that draft editor was User:ECA-F20. It was their only edit in October 2020 and they posted a full article on this subject in their draft. When that happens, it often means that the content was cut and pasted from another source but since it wasn't submitted to AFC, it was never checked for possible copyright violations. As for the date, drafts that are deleted via CSD G13 have their last edit to the page 6 months prior to the deletion date if that helps you in the future.

May I ask why you are curious? Are you going to request this draft's restoration? Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 03:57, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, RE Draft:Miss Planet International, the user Vankasida states here User_talk:Vannet_Kun#Request_unblock that they are indeed a sock of the blocked Vannet Kun. I've opened SPI on this: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vannet Kun. Of course, we can wait for that to close, if you'd like, but to me this seems pretty clear? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:10, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vannet Kun is mine, but i still don't understand why i was a sockpuppet. I didn't intend to destroy anyting. I just created account to create an article related to The Miss Planet International organization, which has already been held three times. However, there is no article related to it yet. That's why I created an article related to it. I have not created Draft:Miss Planet International 2019 yet, but I have created:

• Draft:Miss Planet International
• Draft:Miss Planet International 2023
• Draft:Miss Planet International 2024

There is enough information that you can check on Google and other websites. You can also check the official Facebook page of Miss Planet International. Lastly, please don't try to block me, as I have no ill intensions. I will read the Wikipedia Guidelines and learn from my past mistakes. I want to be a positive contributor to Wikipedia. If you want to know more about me, you can contact me on my User talk page. Vankasida (talk) 10:32, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vankasida: when your account is blocked, and you just go ahead and create another one and continue editing, that is pretty much the definition of sockpuppetry; how is that difficult to understand? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:44, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DoubleGrazing Thanks you for telling me. Now i understand, but what can I do to get rid of a sockpuppetry from my account? Vankasida (talk) 11:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz; I don't pay much attention to categories, unless I see obvious disruption e.g., addition of categories that aren't sourced in the article, etc, or addition of top-level categories already covered by more granular categories. I noticed this large scale creation of new categories; I have no doubt it's in good faith, but the first thing I'm wondering is surely there's a reason these categories didn't exist before? I'm wondering if they are too "intersectional" as defined in WP:CATDD. OhNoitsJamie <sup>Talk</sup> 13:16, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz,

I hope you are doing well. My name is Brett and I work for the nonprofit Village Enterprise that is working to end extreme poverty in rural Africa. I'm reaching out because I believe you moved Village Enterprise's Wikipedia page into draft mode (see here), and I believe it may be deleted in the next week or so. I'd be more than happy to work with the editorial team at Wikipedia to answer any questions about the organization to get the page reinstated and more current.

In case it is of use, I thought I would point out several articles that could be of use to updating the page. Village Enterprise received a Fast Company World Changing Ideas Award for their DREAMS for Refugees project with Mercy Corps in May of 2023. They also received a $7 million donation from MacKenzie Scott in 2023. That same year, Dianne Calvi, Village Enterprise's CEO and President, was honored with the President's Award for the Advancement of the Common Good from Stanford University, and she had an op-ed published in Fortune on World Refugee Day. In 2022, IDinsight published the results of their independent randomized controlled trial of the Village Enterprise Development Impact Bond (see report here), and the Village Enterprise Development Impact Bond was featured in a 2022 Brookings event.

Please let me know if I can be of assistance in any way to having the page reinstated.

Best,

Brett BrettSlezak (talk) 21:02, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @BrettSlezak I made an edit to re-set the deletion clock. Have a read of WP:ORG to understand the kind of sourcing needed if Village Enterprise is going to become an article. Feel free to be in touch if @Liz or I can be of help in any way. Star Mississippi 02:45, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Star Mississippi and @Liz,

Star Mississippi thank you for making an edit to re-set the deletion clock—I really appreciate it.

I've read WP:ORG to better understand the sourcing needed for Village Enterprise to become an article. I believe the following articles are significant, independent, reliable, and secondary sources proving Village Enterprise's notability: Devex's coverage of the results from the Village Enterprise Development Impact Bond (the first impact bond for poverty alleviation in Africa), Fast Company's World Changing Ideas Award for Village Enterprise, Mercy Corps, and IDinsight for their joint DREAMS initiative to serve refugees living in extreme poverty, coverage of Village Enterprise's business and saving group model and the impact it is having on an entrepreneur named Salome Lodis in Kenya in Nation, and coverage of Village Enterprise's poverty graduation model and results in an article on the poverty graduation approach in Vox (this article features multiple organizations and studies but significant attention is paid to Village Enterprise. The organization is also written about in this SSIR article from 2013. There was also a Brookings event on the Village Enterprise Development Impact Bond results — multiple stakeholders from the project were part of a panel, including Village Enterprise's Taddeo Muriuki.

With those articles in mind, what is needed to get the Village Enterprise Wikipedia article back up? I'm happy to look at the draft and provide suggested edits here with sourcing for yourself to review. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts. BrettSlezak (talk) 23:29, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HI @BrettSlezak and thanks for your note.

While I'm not sure that sourcing is sufficient, others may disagree. In order to make this sourcing stand out, I'd remove things like the founders' pledge and charity newswire which add to volume of sourcing but don't add to notability. You'd then be welcome to re-submit it through WP:AFC for review. You're not required to, but since you noted you're an employee (and thank you for doing so) it's best practice to do so. Let me know if you need help with that. Happy to as I can. Star Mississippi 03:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Star Mississippi, thanks for all of your help. Is the best way for me to submit my edits for review to directly edit the Draft: Village Enterprise and then to submit it through WP:AFC? Just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly. I've re-written and re-sourced the entire article in a Google Doc for the time-being, so once if this is correct, I should be able to update it soon. Thanks again. BrettSlezak (talk) 22:16, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• so once I know if this correct (typo - my bad) BrettSlezak (talk) 22:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi @Star Mississippi and @Liz,

  Just wanted to resubmit my question—is the best way for me to submit edits for review to directly edit the Draft: Village Enterprise and then to submit it through WP:AFC? Thanks for all of your help! BrettSlezak (talk) 23:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for the ping and apologies for missing your prior note @BrettSlezak. Yes, you can add your re-write to the existing draft and re-submit it. I'd note on the Talk that you have done so in order for a large edit not to concern folks about a copyright/copy paste which isn't the case here. Star Mississippi 01:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi @Star Mississippi, thanks for all of your help. I just wanted to update you that I have submitted my rewrite of Draft:Village Enterprise through WP:AFC. I've also noted my rewrite on the Talk so hopefully it doesn't cause any concerns.

  Thanks again for all of your help. I'm looking forward to the rewrite being reviewed. BrettSlezak (talk) 19:40, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi @Star Mississippi, thanks again for all of your guidance as I was working on the Draft: Village Enterprise. One other question I wanted to run by you — is there anything I can do to help the page be reviewed? It's been about 4 weeks since it was submitted, but I understand it could take 8 weeks or so. Are drafts reviewed in the order they are submitted, so that we are moving to the top of the queue? BrettSlezak (talk) 02:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Hi @Liz and @Star Mississippi, I hope that you are both doing well. I wanted to check back in to see if there's anything I can do to help the Draft: Village Enterprise be reviewed. It's been a little over 2 months since the draft was submitted. I've also added tags to try to increase the chance of a quicker review. Any insights you have would be appreciated! BrettSlezak (talk) 04:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Apologies for missing your prior @BrettSlezak. Feel free to ping me on my Talk page if I do in the future. There is no queue, the ~2,400 drafts are reviewed in a semi random manner which I know can be frustrating, but hopefully it will be reviewed soon. I'm not certain about tags speeding up review. Star Mississippi 12:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Liz. Based on the discussions on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:CiceroHunter could the discussion be closed and could the userpage and subpages be redirected to my main account as the last comment suggested if possible I'd be happy if they were to be redirected to my main current userpage and account. Is this doable? Regards. ShadowWarfare 21:26, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ShadowWarfare,

I should have read this message more carefully before running over to MFD to check out the status of the discussion. I relisted the discussion since it had such low participation so I don't think I can immediately close it now. This discussion had no consensus so unless there is a new rush of editors to offer their opinion, it is likely to close as "No consensus" and then you can redirect the pages yourself. But please wait until it closes which should be in a day or two.

I really apologize for how long this discussion has been open, we don't have as many admins and NAC editors closing discussions on MFD and, in fact, I've only closed 2 or 3 myself. I'm sorry that you find the atmosphere on Wikipedia toxic. Over the 10 years I've been editing the project, I've taken two breaks, early on for 6 months and later for 2 years until I returned in 2018. I found myself involved in disputes with editors that looked like they would last a lifetime but when I returned both times, those editors had moved on from editing. Sometimes you just need a WikiBreak. But don't worry, we'll get this resolved for you. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 01:09, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. I acted first, closed the MfD, and then found this. I missed the date you relisted the discussion. Sorry Liz. ShadowWarfare you may want to redirect any other subpages. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 19:46, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks done, I'll leave my email address on the account preferences because I may come back in the future as I'm not ruling it out but for now I'm not happy with editing the site . Thanks for the help though. ShadowWarfare 22:49, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hibaq Jama is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hibaq Jama until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Pseudoname1 (talk) 00:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Pseudoname1,

I made one small edit to this article over 2 years ago. Why are you giving me this notice? It typically goes to the page creator and other major contributors. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:56, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello User:Liz,

Thank you for your reply. Apologies for the intrusion, but I thought I would try to engage some of the article's most recent contributors, particularly those who have had previous involvement in the deletion proposals. The original creator appears to have been banned from editing English Wikipedia and any other substantive edits have been thin on the ground as you might imagine.

Sorry once again for sending you this, however- this is my first AFD nomination and I realise I might have overcooked it on the courtesy notifications.

Feel free to delete this notice if you wish though, I'll harbour no ill will :) Pseudoname1 (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Pseudoname1,

I was more curious than upset because we have an ongoing problem with deletion nominators not informing ANY content creators when they nominate articles for deletion. So, for you to go beyond the necessary to consider other editors who might be interested is admirable, I think. I'll check out the discussion as it progresses. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 01:11, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Liz,

Brilliant, thanks for the feedback and for offering to keep tabs on the discussion :) Pseudoname1 (talk) 01:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

Would it be possible to undelete Jest (framework) ? My understanding is that it is one of the leading testing frameworks in the Computer science industry with multiple sources:

• https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-031-30826-0_4
• https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/10301340
• https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4842-9648-6_2
• https://books.google.co.in/books?hl=en&lr=&id=Rhl1CgAAQBAJ&oi=fnd&pg=PP116&dq=jest+testing+framework&ots=JlrtvDxQSE&sig=DmCYIqUeYi4NqMgFXZlMEFzcJf4#v=onepage&q=jest%20testing%20framework&f=false

Sohom (talk) 08:22, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Sohom,

The AFD was closed as a Soft Delete so the answer is "Yes". However, I'd like to ask you where you would like it to be restored. If I restore it to Draft or User space, then you'd be free to work on improving the article at your leisure. If I restore it to main space, you run the risk of it being renominated at a second AFD where, according to our guidelines, it can't be Soft Deleted again so if it was a Delete closure, it would be very difficult to restore it again. But it's your choice. Let me know. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 02:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft/Userspace works for me. Userspace would be better since it does not have a weird expiry period :) Sohom (talk) 07:15, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly ping in case you forgot to restore to userspace ? Sohom (talk) 18:31, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you look at this and advise me on whether I'm correct that this is mis-use, and what to do next? Possibly open a MfD? ☆ Bri (talk) 19:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Bri,

I didn't check all of those pages but I'm assuming they are copies of main space articles posted in User space? That is definitely discouraged. So far, the editor has not responded to your message.

Honestly, I don't think it's worth you pursuing this matter even though you are probably right. WP:MFD has its own unwritten rules and regulars and what I've noticed is that they frown on editors who patrol other editor's User pages and judge it to be unproductive busywork. They usually Keep nominated User pages unless they are clear violations of CSD G5 or they have content that violates BLP guidelines or has racist or other offensive content. We have millions and millions of User pages that probably merit deletion for being abandoned and useless but it's extremely difficult to get them deleted unless they can be CSD G5'd or have objectionable content. It's to the point where no one even proposes their deletion through a new CSD criteria any more, I imagine because veteran editors would argue against it. But this is all just my observation, not based in any policy. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 02:26, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Something has gone wrong here with the script, I couldn't work it out though - sorry for not fixing. Daniel (talk) 02:07, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Daniel,

I don't see that you made any edits to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Discovery of the nonmetals so I'm unclear on what might have gone wrong.

I don't know if you've noticed but I think about 5% of the time, XFDcloser screws up the relisting of AFD discussions. It happened to me last night. XFDcloser either a) doesn't remove the AFD from the current day's AFD daily log (1/3/23) or b) it doesn't repost the AFD on the future AFD daily log (1/10/23) or c) the worst, it removes the AFD from the current daily log and doesn't post the AFD on the future daily log. We used to have one or two editors who used to hunt down AFD discussions that fell through the cracks like this and just disappeared from the daily logs but I think they've moved on to other tasks. Unless the nominator keeps track of them, AFD discussions can linger on, unclosed for months if they are not reposted to the future AFD daily log. Luckily, this doesn't happen that often. I've meant to post about this at Wikipedia talk:XFDcloser but questions there often go unresponded to so I guess the developers are AWOL. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 02:16, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confirming I didn't make any edits there - I was just running through the daily log page and because something was breaking the shading of the discussion, the daily log was a mess. I've also found that the relist function sometimes fails, I've now started checking to make sure it edits the new log to paste it on to avoid having debates end up in the void. Daniel (talk) 02:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Marxist Economist#10 January 2024. ShaanSengupta<sup>Talk</sup> 02:28, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Shaan Sengupta,

Thank you for letting me know. It sure looks like the same editor. They maintain a high level of activity when they do edit. Unfortunately, they seem persistent so they might frequently create new accounts. You have become very skilled at filing SPI cases which makes things easier for checkusers and SPI clerks. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Liz. One more was found as Confirmed by CU. They are blocked now. Let's see if they return again which I strongly believe they will very soon (might have made a new account by now). Also the case in now merged Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Srimonbanik2007. ShaanSengupta<sup>Talk</sup> 05:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz,

I was just wondering why you deleted my page on William Macintyre, and wasn’t just left as a draft so I could improve it. Is there something that I have done wrong? If so, how can I retrieve information to improve the page whilst it still being a draft?

Thank you. Certified Formula Neek (talk) 18:30, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Certified Formula Neek,

Draft:William Macintyre (racing driver) was a redirect page, it had no content on it. It redirected to William Macintyre (racing driver) which was deleted as a redirect from main space to Draft space, CSD R2. That article was moved to Draft:William Macintyre where you can find the articles and continue to work on it. If you look at your own Contributions page, you can see where pages have been relocated to. Good luck! Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:43, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ok. Thank you very much, I didn't realise that! Certified Formula Neek (talk) 06:42, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz,

As pages created before the earliest block/ban on any account are ineligible for WP:CSD#G5, I ask that you revert your recent G5 deletions of pages created by the Miyera20 sockfarm. I'm unware of any more significant abuse and those pages are mostly sitting around harmlessly. Cheers, <sup>Complex</sup>/<sub>Rational</sub> 00:26, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ComplexRational,

I checked the SPI case but it looks like I made a major mistake here. I replied to you on the user talk page of the editor who tagged all of those pages. It looks like I'll be spending a good amount of time tonight restoring pages and reverting tagging. I'm sorry for this inconvenience and I'm grateful that you are holding me accountable to be more careful in my admin responsiblities. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:39, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, I've done the same thing before. (And we were typing our respective messages at the same time, so I didn't see the ping until I finished writing here.) <sup>Complex</sup>/<sub>Rational</sub> 00:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, remember when I told you how much time Twinkle's batch-undelete feature can save? Now you can see for yourself! I put the list of deleted userboxes at User:Extraordinary Writ/sandbox7, so if you go to that page, choose "Und-batch" from the Twinkle menu, and enter your reason, it should undelete all 92 pages for you in short order. It unfortunately doesn't remove the deletion tags, but you should be able to do that fairly quickly by just rollbacking the relevant edits. Let me know if you run into any issues. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow, Extraordinary Writ, I have never done a batch undelete before. Thanks for showing me how. I'm working on another task right now and I hope those pages do not get re-deleted before I can remove the CSD tags.

By the way, is it possible to use Twinkle to tag a list of pages? I see some editors/admins to mass tagging of pages, all occurring at the same minute, and the only way I can guess that they are able to do this is by using Twinkle. Or is it AWB? Thanks again so much for creating this list for me. Much appreciated. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 01:11, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to help. I don't think Twinkle can mass-tag pages. AWB is definitely a possibility, or they could just be opening pages in multiple tabs and tagging them all at once, or there could be some other script I'm not familiar with. If there's a particular example you're thinking of, let me know and I can try to figure it out. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, they are instances like the one here that I responded to incorrectly, editors/admins mass-tagging pages CSD G5 or mass-tagging empty categories CSD C1. I am intimidated by AWB and afraid to doing any mass-editing projects just in case another mistake like this one happens. But I know there are plenty of editors like BD2412 or BrownHairedGirl who used AWB without problems. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 01:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the userboxes were all tagged manually. Usually the diff will tell you if Twinkle, AWB, JWB, etc. were used, although that isn't foolproof. I certainly understand the hesitancy to use AWB; I've had my share of problems with it and try not to use it unless I have to. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 02:47, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I know AWB wasn't used this time but I've seen a mass page tagging in the past. Always wondered how this was done. Maybe if I get some free time (hah!) I'll look into AWB and give it another try. I don't take on mass-editing projects like moving commas or fixing references so I'm not sure how useful it would be for the regular tasks I take on. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 02:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I used massRollback to undo some of the CSD taggings from the user contributions page. I found it very effective (though it does carry a risk of misfiring) – maybe you'd like to use it as well. <sup>Complex</sup>/<sub>Rational</sub> 03:56, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, ComplexRational,

I've never tried that, thanks for the suggestion. Is there a way to "Mass roll forward" an edit and mass tag, just like mass rollback only in reverse? I'm almost done with reverting these CSD G5 edits. But I got halfway through doing it and thought, why isn't the editor who placed the CSD tags reverting themselves? Why am I doing this?! But it needs to be done and I'm online so be it. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 04:01, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's what the mop and bucket are for...

I'm not aware of any tool for mass tagging – only Special:Nuke to go right ahead and delete – though I also generally don't do large-scale semi-automated editing. <sup>Complex</sup>/<sub>Rational</sub> 04:23, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all of the help and support, especially you, Extraordinary Writ, for those last reverts. Much appreciated! Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 05:35, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz. I had someone message me on instagram and say they will publish my site for 200. They published it and deleted it. Can you help me? Thanks! Ravenhockey10 (talk) 22:29, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ravenhockey10,

What is the article? Do you know the editor's name? You shouldn't pay for Wikipedia services, no one can guarantee that an article won't be deleted. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 22:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henry Gendus. I track and follow hedgefund managers and made an edit page for him. Ravenhockey10 (talk) 22:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AlexHardy20 was the user who edited my original submission to publish it and deleted it. I thought I did everything correct that’s why I agreed to talk with him. Very convincing! Ravenhockey10 (talk) 22:59, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ravenhockey10,

I have blocked User:Alexhardy20 because they violated Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure guidelines. I believe your article is still available in Draft space at Draft:Henry Gendus. You can always go to your User page and look at your Contributions (in the left-hand column of the page). For your information, an editor, especially a very new editor, can not get a page deleted. They can "tag" a page to be considered for deletion but all tagged pages are reviewed by an administrator first. I'm not sure how they even came across your draft and tracked you down. It might be because you use the same username across platforms. Any way, all they did was move your unapproved draft article to main space, they didn't edit it so it's still in the state that you left it.

If you have questions about getting your draft accepted, ask the AFC reviewer who declined the draft for advice or go Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles_ for creation/Help desk or the Teahouse for help and advice. I'm sorry you were scammed. You might report the account that contacted you on Instagram. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 23:09, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I really appreciate all of your help. Can I easily fine the AFC user who declined my draft? Ravenhockey10 (talk) 23:23, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ravenhockey10,

I was mistaken! This draft has never been reviewed before so I submitted it for you, I hope that is okay. These days, drafts are often reviewed quickly so hopefully you will hear something back in the near future. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 01:02, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Any help getting it done would be great!! I tried reading thru articles and advice. Just a lot to take in. Ravenhockey10 (talk) 01:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ravenhockey10,

Well, the important thing to know is that there are resources (some much much better than me!) that you can go to for help. Wikipedia has an awful lot of pages about policies and guidelines, plus a Manual of Style and it is a lot to absorb for new editors. What you don't want to do is to move a draft to the main space of the project too soon, that is what Alexhardy20 did and that can result in an article deletion. Draft space is a safe space you can work in to improve the article. The only reason it would be deleted is if it is seen as advertising or too promotional. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 02:14, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Just noticed you deleted the shortcuts of the WikiProject Vital articles of the level 5 subpages, I had just created them, not sure I follow the reasoning provided that they didn't exist. Cheers. The Blue Rider 22:45, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, The Blue Rider,

They were orphaned talk pages which are deleted according to CSD G8 guidelines. Unless they are exempt from deletion because the page itself contains content that we want to keep, we delete orphaned talk page (with no accompanying article or project page). If there was a project page redirect, then there can be a talk page redirect. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 22:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, I'm giving Drmies the evening off--maybe you can help. This is in awful shape since being commandeered by an editor with WP:COI: [1]. Claims like this are just bizarre [2]. My take is that the article can revert to its last stable version [3], but someone will have a fit, and it may be construed as vandalism if I do it. Perhaps there's something salvageable in that mess, but is it worth picking through? Thanks, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:FC5D:2927:11BD:DF5 (talk) 03:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) The article is indeed in a dreadful state. I have reverted it to a reasonable stub. Bishonen | tålk 09:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thank you! And done without consulting the Turkish Parliament. 2601:19E:4180:6D50:FC5D:2927:11BD:DF5 (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, could you please restore a copy of this article so that it can be improved as a draft? Thanks. Onetwothreeip (talk) 10:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why was the page 'Sadaqah Jariyah' deleted, and how can it be restored? It is a crucial page in 'Islam,' providing a neutral explanation of the topic supported by appropriate references. Why was it removed? مستر (talk) 11:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@مستر: It was not deleted, but it was sent to draft space for further improvements. I will suggest you replace blogs with WP:RS. If you don't have it already, here is your link to your draft. Thanks. Maliner (talk) 12:02, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi liz Let me thank you again for reviving the draft Draft:Mehdi Mirza Mehdi Tehrani for me. I updated the draft a lot and consulted with experienced editors and some managers.see this: here and here Currently, there are two detailed comments above the draft. I would be very happy and honored if you have time or if you would like to take a look at this draft. Assuming good faith, I'll make it clear that I don't want to take up your valuable time, but I'd greatly appreciate your guidance and possibly your action. —Patricia (Talk) 14:32, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Patricia Mannerheim: Reviewed. Maliner (talk) 14:56, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maliner (I apologize to liz the owner of the page) Sources that appear to be interviews are independently subjected to an unbiased review of the subject's work. They are in English. You definitely didn't feel like reading. I had explained in detail in the comment above the draft. You deleted it. I strongly object to the rejection of the draft. —Patricia (Talk) 15:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

is this Interviews? or Or is the independent and secondary source in-depth about the subject?here.—Patricia (Talk) 15:22, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied to you on your talk page. Maliner (talk) 15:31, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aranxa Vega even though there were no relists, and two deletes, and one keep. Given most of the discussion was in the 5 hours before you closed it - shouldn't this be a relist? Thanks, Nfitz (talk) 17:46, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Nfitz,

 Done I didn't notice that the two most recently expressed opinions occurred right before my closure. So, I restored the article and relisted the AFD discussion. I will let another administrator close this discussion. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:39, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Nfitz (talk) 01:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created the "User mns" categories for people who speak the Mansi language per request of another user. The reason the categories might be empty is because I created the pages six hours before you marked them empty. I think this may have been a misunderstanding on my part, and I'm not sure if I was even supposed to create those categories and rather only the ones that were currently in use. Thanks, Urban Versis 32<sup>KB</sup> ⚡ <sup>(talk / contribs)</sup> 14:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Urban Versis 32,

Yes, we have a policy about not retaining empty categories, ones that are not being used, on the project. There are a few exceptions to this policy guideline including category redirects, category disambiguation pages and categories associated with WikiProjects that are empty at some times but might be used in the future. Those WikiProject categories are tagged {{emptycat}} to mark that the categories might be occasionally empty.

I have seen some User language categories that have the "empty cat" tag on them but please only use it for categories that realistically will be occupied by a User page. Not every level of language proficiency for every obscure language should have its own category page if it's unlikely that we will see new editors coming in with that specific language fluency. So, it's a judgement call and I ask that you not overuse the tag and to be realistic. I hope this helps explain how we handle empty categories on the project. Thank you. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:50, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much, I didn't understand this before but now I see how the empty categories work. Thanks again, Urban Versis 32<sup>KB</sup> ⚡ <sup>(talk / contribs)</sup> 17:12, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please not post empty category notifications to User talk:Babel AutoCreate? It's an automated bot and doesn't care if a category it creates is now empty. Thanks. * Pppery * <sub>it has begun...</sub> 19:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, * Pppery *,

Of course, you are right, I don't know why I didn't recognize it was a bot. I'll cease notifications but we have gotten two recent floods of empty categories and I doubt we'll have another one in this same subject area. Any way, thanks for bringing this oversight to my attention. Liz <sup>Read! Talk!</sup> 00:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Liz, any chance you can drafity the page Mahmoud Al Aswad that I believe was deleted per consensus? The player is in a major tournament right now, and I think I found enough coverage to satisfy GNG. Let me know. Cheers!--Ortizesp (talk) 00:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And maybe Mohammed Khalil as well, in case it's the page for a footballer, not if otherwise. Cheers! Ortizesp (talk) 00:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz: Any update on this? Hope you're well! Ortizesp (talk) 21:36, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]