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You 'welcomed' yourself to WP? Huh. Never saw that before... - wolf 13:27, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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You removed the tags at the top of the page. These are there to let others know that the article must be improved in those areas. You may add information, but please don't remove the tags._{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN} ^{tell me a joke...} 18:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They might be ugly, but they do aid editors. I'm afraid there's no workaround for this. _{WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN} ^{tell me a joke...} 18:38, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't remove or change reference handling code without first gaining consensus as you did here - [1]. -- John (Daytona2 · Talk · Contribs) 15:51, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see, a link was moved from that page to another as it was more relevant there. Also content was added. My changes were then vandalised. Tony May (talk) 21:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if you would at least explain why you keep reverting my change to the dates in List of LMS locomotives as of 1947-12-31. At least a comment on the talk page would be good behaviour. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 18:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank for the reply I have commented on the talk page. Please note I am considering proposing to move the article to the better List of LMS locomotives as of 31 December 1947 as being more sensible. But I have asked for opinions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways. Your comments are welcome. MilborneOne (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is no single version of history and sources often disagree. If you have sources which you believe to be more reliable than mine then you are free to edit the relevant articles accordingly. Biscuittin (talk) 10:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Edward Talbot. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Get to know me!} / _{Talk to me!}←at≈:→ 22:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well tell him off not me then. He's the one removing content. that is vandalism. Tony May (talk) 22:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have been warned. You should take this to dispute resolution if it keeps going. You jumped in after months of edits. ←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez ^{Get to know me!} / _{Talk to me!}←at≈:→ 22:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's this a conspiracy of vandals? Tony May (talk) 22:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen this dispute posted about on WP:AIV. I have warned the other user (Boleyn) to discontinue as he too is in violation of 3RR. Please discontinue reverting or you may face a block.¤~Persian Poet Gal ^(talk) 22:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I see you are interested in trains. Why not join the WikiProject, all you need to do is add your name here and you are a member! Mjroots (talk) 07:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism, is the act of delibrately making uncontructive edits. Please refrain from calling other editors vandals, or accusing them of vandalism. Although it's not exactly something that gets you blocked per say, but people will look at you in a rather bad light because usage of this term, especially for edits that are clearly not vandalism very are frowned upon on Wikipedia. Edits that you don't agree with, are not vandalism, and you should discuss why you think the edits are unconstructive for Wikipedia, rather than calling other editors vandals. See this essay. Also, when editing, please remember to assume good faith, even if other editors are making edits that you do not nessesaryly agree with. When editing, please remember to keep this in mind. 山本一郎 (会話) 03:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on LNER Peppercorn Class A1. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on LNER Peppercorn Class A1. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution.

IN case you hadn't noticed you are revert warring too! I am merely improving the article, as per our "discussion" in which you ignore all my arguments in favour of your own opinion. Tony May (talk) 07:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have replied on my talk page. Biscuittin (talk) 19:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted the addition to the Edward Talbot page, disambig pages should link to other wiki pages. If your addition is notable, he should have his own article written first, then the link added to the disambig page. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 10:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You've already been used about use of the word "vandalism"; this [2] voilates WP:CIVIL which is a Bad Idea William M. Connolley (talk) 12:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. I did not realise there was such feeling about this. I will see if I can write an article on Ted Talbot if I work out his bibliography. Thanks. Tony May (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A request for mediation has been filed with the Mediation Committee that lists you as a party. The Mediation Committee requires that all parties listed in a mediation must be notified of the mediation. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/LNER Peppercorn Class A1, and indicate whether you agree or disagree to mediation. If you are unfamiliar with mediation on Wikipedia, please refer to Wikipedia:Mediation. Please note there is a seven-day time limit on all parties responding to the request with their agreement or disagreement to mediation. Thanks, Biscuittin (talk) 13:50, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that's fine. Let's hope we get a good mediator though. Tony May (talk) 14:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please add your thoughts at Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/LNER_Peppercorn_Class_A1#Additional_issues_to_be_mediated. Biscuittin (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for agreeing to mediation. Do you want to add any additional issues to be mediated? Biscuittin (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've put my comments at "Issues to be mediated". I think you should put yours at "Additional issues to be mediated". MacNee has put some comments there so make sure you identify yours as yours. Biscuittin (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Things are happening at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-12-05 LNER Peppercorn Class A1. You might like to participate. Biscuittin (talk) 08:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A Request for Mediation to which you were are a party was not accepted and has been delisted. You can find more information on the case subpage, Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/LNER Peppercorn Class A1. For the Mediation Committee, WJBscribe (talk) 11:00, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Issues raised at WP:AN/I Mjroots (talk) 08:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I want to explain why I put my edits back into your Tony May/A1 page. You want this page to be part of the discussions about that topic, but if so, the comments you make should be subject to discussion. How can this discussion continue if edits to the Tony May/A1 page are not welcome? There is supposed to be discussion and I suggest that either the Tony May/A1 page is open to edits and discussion, or you should withdraw it from the discussions on A1 Peppercorn talk page. Captain Nemo III (talk) 05:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry, I drew that myself so it is my copyright. Tony May (talk) 12:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I recently came across this article you'd started a while back. It was interesting to me because Young is a relative. I'll see if I can find some family photos, or such. Regards, — BillC ^talk 20:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you take them off? Railwayfan2005 (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The explanatory text for Steam locomotives of British Railways#Locomotives acquired from the War Department just tails off ("Also, five of the eight LMS Fowler Class 3F 0-6-0Ts were.")

Having applied some other tweaks, I still could not see how the sentence was supposed to finish. Could you take a look please?

EdJogg (talk) 13:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- perhaps you could check my edits?

(Was just wondering why your talk page was on my watchlist, then re-discovered this orphan comment...)

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Hallo (Are you the Tony May who was at Univ of Leeds, I wonder?)

I came across John Austin (artist) while stub-sorting. There were a few problems you might like to bear in mind another time:

• You linked FGRA without checking where it led to - until I change it just now it was pointing to an obscure village as the initials of its Residents Association (not mentioned in the article so I felt it OK to just re-direct the redirect). Please always check that links are going where you intend (eg not to a disambiguation page).
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• You added a non-existent category, and replaced it when it was removed, to this and other pages. I've created a new, wider, category: Category: Rail transport artists. Neutral terminology between railway/railroad. It's within the parent category of Category:Artists by genre. I think it's more useful than the category you were using which can only have 5 members.
• When listing a book, it's better to give publisher and date and ISBN: the last is then picked up and made into a link automatically (as long as it's input as ISBN (in capitals), space, then the number). It all adds authority to the article.

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Looking further, it might be good to create Category:British railway artists as a subset of both the above and Category:British people in rail transport. I might do it, no time right now.PamD (talk) 10:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. PamD (talk) 00:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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As a back-up position, could we merge this with LMS Sentinels 7160-3? Biscuittin (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not really. They're quite different technically. 7160-3/(4)7180-3 were very much different (much bigger; e.g. weighed 20.85 tons not 19 tons). The vital stats are in there already. Tony May (talk) 18:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I have reverted your edits as unreferenced - please include a reliable source so we can verify the claims. Regards, GiantSnowman 14:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Again, you are adding unreferenced information to an article. Please find a reliable source so we can verify the claims. GiantSnowman 19:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added a reference. Pehraps you should go and do your research in the obvious places? Tony May (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What reference, where? GiantSnowman 19:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have notified WT:FOOTY about your disruption. I will not revert you again due to WP:3RR. PS labelling my edits as "vandalism" is extremely poor form. GiantSnowman 19:21, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not being disruptive. You are. You're removing referenced material. That is vandalism, basically. Tony May (talk) 19:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have not provided a reference, and in fact some of what you are claiming is contradicted by existing sources. You say Dewhurst was a banker? Nope, cotton trader. GiantSnowman 19:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I have. And yes he was a banking executive. Which part of that don't you understand? Tony May (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Gerard Dewhurst. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. See also The three-revert rule. Your edits were not reverting vandalism as you state in edit summary please discuss before further reverts. Edinburgh Wanderer 21:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I'm reverting vandalism. Tony May (talk) 21:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately you are not reverting vandalism you are edit warring. If you continue then it will be reported as a breach of 3rr. You currently have reverted 6 times that is clear edit warring. Edinburgh Wanderer 21:07, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So explain to me, which part of that is not vandalism? Removing perfectly valid information? Vandalism. Tony May (talk) 21:08, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please read this WP:3RR. You are in strong danger of being blocked if you continue to ignore the rules. Adam4267 (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YOU ARE ONE OF THE VANDALS! WP:3RR doesn't apply to reverting vandalism, as far as I can tell. Tony May (talk) 21:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have reported you here WP:AIV for your editwarring at Gerard Dewhurst. Adam4267 (talk) 21:20, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have reported you at WP:AIV for your vandalism to Gerard Dewhurst. Tony May (talk) 21:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tony, reading WP:CIVILITY could be helpful for your future editing. Specifically try to engage in conversation with other editors rather than ignoring what they say, falsely accusing them of things and edit warring. Thanks. Adam4267 (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have been perfectly civil in what quite clearly idiotic trolling. Tony May (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're way over three reverts on Gerard Dewhurst, and it is clearly a content dispute. I have blocked you for 24 hours. If you will avoid any more reverts, I will unblock so you can discuss it on the article talk page (any admin may do the same). To request an unblock, add {{unblock | reason = Your reason here}} below this. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks. How many of the vandals get banned? 21:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

That's the crux of the issue, no one was vandalizing the article. It was a legitimate content dispute. And as such, it needs to be resolved through discussion on the talk page, or failing that, dispute resolution. If you're willing to forgo further edits to the article until you have consensus to make those changes, I would be happy to unblock you. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Put this another way, how can removing perfectly valid content on false pretenses not be vandalism? Tony May (talk) 21:46, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collector of information. There are many reasons why something true and demonstrable might be excluded from an article. Let me be clear, though, I take no side in your dispute. You will have to discuss it with the other editors to determine their reasons for wanting to leave it out. And I would be happy to unblock you for that purpose, if you're willing to forgo editing the page until you have consensus on those edits. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Given his above statement made seconds ago calling everyone else idiotic trolls I'm not sure he is willing to discuss with anyone. Everyone would be happy to discuss if it was civil but given above I'm not sure they have respect for wikis guidelines and calling non vandalism as such is worrying behaviour from anyone let alone breaking 3RR which isn't the first time see top of talk page or being uncivil which calling everyone trolls is.Edinburgh Wanderer 21:57, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps, although it may well be that his troglodytic remark was merely the result of a temporary poor judgement call. I see nothing that yet warrants a permanent ban, so my belief is it is necessary to continue working to resolve this issue or we're just delaying conflict 24 hours by blocking. Nothing suggests to me that Tony is an intransigent editor, merely passionate. I have high hopes we can get past this issue, if we are all mindful of the tigers. --TeaDrinker (talk) 22:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want him permanently blocked i don't even want the block extended because he appears normally to be productive. What I'm saying is unblocking so he can discuss whilst still calling everyone vandals or trolls will make it worse he or she needs to calm down and be civil before this issue is going anywhere.Edinburgh Wanderer 22:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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