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List/category naming inconsistency for alumni/faculty/people[edit]

Is there a reason for the two naming systems for list articles (and categories) about alumni/faculty/people of universities? Generally the naming format is either

  1. "___ of the [university name]", or
  2. "[university name] ___",

but we have large numbers of articles for either ordering even across countries. For example:

At least for categories, pattern #1 seems to be relatively consistently used for the UK and pattern #2 seems to be relatively consistently used for the US.

Sometimes the list and categories do not even follow the same format:

I suppose that several moves are in order (at the very least to align lists with categories)? — MarkH21talk 06:20, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]

MarkH21, I'm more of a fan of pattern #2, but I'm not sure the variation is really causing all that much harm. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 06:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
I don't think that there's any harm being caused. It's just a little odd when list articles use the different naming systems somewhat randomly, especially when they don't match the category names. This isn't really an issue though, just a minor inquiry into naming consistency. — MarkH21talk 06:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
Pattern #1 seems more natural to me. I'm British, and I think (although I could be mistaken) that Skdb is American. As implied by the pattern of issue noted, this is probably a British English vs American English difference. I don't think it is causing any harm so the natural differences between the varieties of English should be allowed to remain. Robminchin (talk) 06:37, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
I'd also note that "People of the University of Cambridge" certainly seems unnatural, so "University of Cambridge people" but "Academics of the University of Cambridge" is the natural way to order these two. They are different things, so I wouldn't see this as an inconsistency. Robminchin (talk) 06:42, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
What about "Alumni of [university name]", "Academics of [university name]" but "People related to [university name]" e.g. a specialist of the history of [university name], but nor alumni nor academics of the institution. --Anneyh (talk) 11:26, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
That works for me.
Thinking about this overnight, possibly the root issue is that "University of Cambridge" is the name of the university, but when used adjectivally it becomes "Cambridge University", thus Cambridge University Press, Cambridge University Boat Club. This pattern is found for almost all British universities that use "University of <town name>" for their name, so the adjectival pattern "<university name> academics" doesn't work for these universities: "Cambridge University academics" (using the adjectival form) would sound far better than "University of Cambridge academics". Robminchin (talk) 16:44, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I see no problem in using one pattern for some countries (including US) and another for some other countries (including UK). There is also a split between Category:University of Chicago people etc and Category:People associated with the University of Nottingham etc, which as far as I can see at a quick dip seems to be another consistent US/UK difference. I'm quite happy to let it be. This has certainly been discussed previously, must be lurking in some talk archives. PamD 16:11, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
    I have no issue if it's consistent within an English variation or geographical grouping. Especially if there is some previous consensus, the helpful action might be just to align lists & categories to each other and/or with an existing consensus. — MarkH21talk 16:39, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[]
    Coming back to this, it seems that at the very least it's acceptable to make the categories consistent within English variations. — MarkH21talk 23:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[]

As it happens, in parallel I've been trying to bring attention to this issue of weird categorization of university staff, the latest iteration of which is at Category talk:Faculty by university or college#Request for comment on naming. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:35, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[]

The big benefit of putting the University first is that, if you use HotCat or search, as you type it you'll see what articles there are starting with that university and can select the one you want. If you use a different setup, you have to get that setup right as you type it (Alumni of, People related to, People of, Faculty of, Academics of...). If you type the wrong one, you'll wind up scrolling through the various articles/categories that do use that formulation before realizing "oh, I guess the one I'm looking for is different". I don't really do categories on Wikipedia, but on Commons I tend to just create category redirects that put the main proper noun first to try to make it easier. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 20:05, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[]

+1 — MarkH21talk 23:46, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[]

List of Disney theatrical animated feature films listed at Requested moves[edit]

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List and adding a new entry[edit]

Hi all, I asked a question in the talk page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_economic_crises It would be awesome if I could get an answer. Many thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medhekp (talkcontribs) 20:48, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[]

List of Heads of State of the Maldives[edit]

The List of heads of state of the Maldives page was deleted because the user who made it seems to have been banned.Khronicle I (talk) 15:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[]

List of plants known as lillipilli[edit]

Is this a 'list'?Xx236 (talk) 09:18, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[]

It looks more like a disambiguation page. Khronicle I (talk) 16:28, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[]

Electricity distribution companies by country[edit]

Would someone from this WikiProject mind taking a look at Electricity distribution companies by country? I started to do some basic cleanup, but it needs some more work. There's lots of red-link entries and non-link entries that almost certainly are electric companies that exist or did exist, but probably are never going to end up having article's created about them. My guess is that over the years, various editors (maybe adding entries from their home countries) have just been expanding the list without realizing things like WP:BURDEN and WP:SOURCELIST, etc. Some of the cleanup (like MOS:TM and MOS:HEAD) is pretty basic, but it might be best to assess the overall encyclopedic value of these red-link entries or non-link entries before do that. There are also quite a number of {{Incomplete list}} templates used throughout the article which might be best combined somehow or even removed. FWIW, this list seems as if it's always going to be incomplete as long as the main WP:CSC seems to simply be existence and not WP:NORG. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:19, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[]

Category:Lists articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Lists articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 21:40, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[]

Requested move at Talk:List of Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon episodes#Requested move 7 May 2021[edit]

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Requested move at Talk:Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, 2020#Requested move 15 May 2021[edit]

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Input Requested[edit]

There are a couple of discussions regarding changes to the List of most-viewed online videos in the first 24 hours, which has been indicated to be in your project's purview. Please join in the discussion here. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 13:53, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[]

An evaluation for on a stub article[edit]

Hi, I’m a student and new to a wikipedia editing. Currently, I’m working in a stub article called List of mammalian gestation durations. Any feedback would greatly appreciated, thanks for your time. ToastedPeanutButter (talk) 11:54, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[]

Guideline for lists of people[edit]

Is there a limit to what can be included in a person's entry in a list of people, for example can we add birth year, death year, profession, birth place, nationality, nick names, etc.? I have asked the same at Talk:List of lists of lists#Guideline for lists of people Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lists#Guideline for lists of people. Jay (Talk) 08:48, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[]

List of places named Mallory[edit]

Would some members of this WikiProject mind taking a look at List of places named Mallory? This probably some value to an article like this, but the term "place" seems to be being very broadly construed. Not only towns and geographical feature, but also private business and bulidings have been added over the years, and many of the entries are unsourced. I'm not very familiar with this type of article, but it seems as if the scope of the article should be better defined; otherwise, there would be a seeminlgly endless possiblity of "places" named "Mallory" which could added. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:51, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[]

Requested move at Talk:List of monuments and memorials removed during the George Floyd protests#Requested move 10 July 2021[edit]

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Requested move at Talk:List of films featuring prisons#Requested move 20 August 2021[edit]

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Huge batch AfD nomination[edit]

I've nominated a whole lot of silly lists here, along with a request at WP:AWBREQ to add the other very similar ones. Since this is a large nomination, just notifying what appears to be the most relevant Wikiproject. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:04, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[]

AFD discussion ongoing, about List of future tallest buildings[edit]

Please consider participating at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of future tallest buildings. --Doncram (talk) 04:46, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Merge proposal[edit]

It has been proposed that List of fictional librarians be merged into Libraries and librarians in fiction. Seeking your feedback at Talk:List of fictional librarians#Merger proposal. Thanks. --Historyday01 (talk) 13:23, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Remarks about Laplace Transform[edit]

Not sure if it was enough, so mentioning it here: I added remarks to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Laplace_transforms and to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Laplace_transform#Frequency_domain? -- two pages that independently list Laplace transformations, with some overlap. One names "Frequency Domain" which I think should be "s-domain" and the list page misses entries both in the other page and in a textbook that I quoted. I am not going to make the changes because I am merely a user of these formalisms; that is, I can state inconsistencies but feel cautious about resolving them.

Requested move: List of fictional child prodigies[edit]

It is proposed that List of fictional child prodigies be moved to to List of gifted children and teenagers in fiction and entertainment media. For the proposal, and to make any comments, please see the proposal here. --Smerus (talk) 11:58, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[]