User talk:Pubdog

Hi Pubdog, I noticed you revised a link in the List of NHLs in MD article which I contributed to in the past and is on my "watchlist". Glad to see you making contibutions.

I hope you don't mind my providing some feedback / asking for discussion about article naming conventions. I see that you moved/renamed Montpelier Mansion to add city and state info in the article name. Glancing at your contributions, I see that you've made similar moves, for example moving William W. Early House to William W. Early House (Brandywine, Maryland)‎. For sites listed on the NRHP, it is customary to add "(City, State)" in article names when necessary for disambiguating from other NRHP sites of the same name (with wikipedia articles already or not) or for disambiguating from other non-NRHP places. I don't know if there are any other Montpelier Mansions in the world, but I am pretty that there is only one notable William W. Early House, so the name was unique. So at least the last rename was not necessary, and I may revert it. In general, names should be only as long as necessary to be unique, in my view, and i think this view will be consistent with wikipedia article naming policies. Could you please reply here (I'll watch this Talk page for a while) or to my Talk page?

Also, if you're interested in NRHP sites, please consider joining wp:NRHP and/or commenting or asking questions at its talk page, wt:NRHP. Keep up the good work! doncram (talk) 22:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Doncram and thank you for the encouraging words. I appreciate the advice and believe that it may be better to address apotential disambiuation issue before it arises. I cannot, for example, guarantee that there will not be a William W. Early house in Montana that does not appear on the NRHP, but is a local landmark deserving a Wikipedia entry. Therefore, I'm trying to prevent another user having to address the Move issue before it arises. I hope this makes sense ...--Pubdog (talk) 22:25, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying promptly, and, yes, I understand your concern. I've done a lot of work in disambiguating between NRHP sites, including developing lots of disambiguation pages like First Presbyterian Church and U.S. Post Office which are among the most common names for NRHP sites. I imagine you may be creating some articles based off of List of RHPs in MD. However, you don't understand (and there'd be no reason you would), that for the most part disambiguating has been done already. For most NRHPs listed there, there is no further renaming necessary. If, in the future there is some other William W. Early House designated, then is the time to move it. We don't in general anticipate such a need, so the shorter name should be used for now (and probably forever). doncram (talk) 22:31, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As you've noticed, i tackled the task of creating tables for several MD counties around Prince George's. In the process, I notice that the old lists for Maryland NRHP sites were actually not as high quality as my remarks above suggested. In these Maryland counties just now I've found it necessary to do a lot of disambiguating work, because i see relatively common-sounding names like "Leonard House" which I judge are probably not unique. For that one, I created Leonard House disambiguation article and listed a number of NRHP sites having approximately that name, using two additional Elkman-supported tools for creating disambig pages and for identifying NRHPs names having any use of a given word or phrase. And then I added a (City, Maryland) qualifier to the name for the Maryland one. My policy is that I won't add a (City, State) qualifier without adding the item to an existing disambig page (or creating a new disambig page if necessary, with 2 or more entries). Mainly, by this comment, I just want to acknowledge that I understand better what you were encountering when starting on the Prince George's County ones. P.S. Thanks also for splitting out the Montgomery and Prince George's County lists out of the state-wide article, which was getting too big. Cheers, doncram (talk) 23:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I very much appreciate the comment reagrding disambiguation before starting; if you ever get to Baltimore that needs a lot of help. Thanks for working on MD. It's a beautiful state with a lot of great historic places!! I went ahead and created the separate MoCo and PG Co pages becaus it was taking so long to load the whole Md page. Baltimore should be next. You've helped me tremendously just navigating the Wiki tools and I am very greatful for that. Ted--Pubdog (talk) 23:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey, the above is an automatic message created following my tagging the article with "copyvio". I did that because I wondered about the sourcing...there was no reference included in the article...and i found quickly by google search a website that the text in the wikipedia article was apparently copied from. I assume you're a relatively new wikipedia contributor and you don't yet quite know all the ropes, which is fine. However, we can't accept copies of copyrighted text by strong policy rules, and, by the opinions of some like me we don't even want copied text from public domain websites. The article you created is a worthy topic, and the website you found is a good source. You just need, however, to use your own words to create a short description based on that source, and you need to reference the source. You can create a footnote to a website like that by copying and modifying the examples in many other articles. I am sure you can be a great contributor here, but there are some policies and guidelines that have to be followed.... Cheers, doncram (talk) 22:38, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, actually, i may have tagged it too hastily. Was it already in your words? I'm not absolutely sure if the text was copied word-for-word or not. If not, it would not be a copyvio and just the source would need to be added. Please don't take offense either way, if i marked this wrong or not. doncram (talk) 22:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The primary spource for the article was the Maryland Historical Trust website, http://www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net/nr/NRDetail.aspx?HDID=1013&FROM=NRMapPR.html, which is a government website and I believe is in the public domain. The article is edited to reflect how I beleieve a Wikipedia entry should be presented. It is cited as an External site, but perhaps should be a reference too? My interest here is to work on PG County historical sites. I sense there is some resistence to my doing so, so please advise whether I should consider my efforts. I am enjoying this very much, but your assumption that I am copying from the Brandywine site is rather disturbing--Pubdog (talk) 22:48, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks, that link is helpful. There are many new wikipedia users who do copy from websites, sometimes from public domain sites and sometimes not. I may have been too hasty in tagging it, but I did not think that would blank the page, which is complicating the matter right now. The copyvio system here at wikipedia has recently changed, apparently; I thought my adding the tag would just put a notice at the top of the page that the page needs to be checked, raising a question, but still leaving the page readable. Again, please don't take offense, let's just sort this out. I don't at all mean to offend you, and I do hope/expect to help you contribute productively. Really, I am glad you are taking an interest in these Maryland sites. I would like to give you some more tools to use, in fact. You created the NRHP infobox from scratch, I believe; there is a tool available that generates cut-and-paste-ready versions of such NRHP infoboxes with official National Register info about the specific site already filled out.

About this copyvio question, an administrator will come address this soon, and will check this discussion and add here, i hope (i asked for an admin to do so). About that source site, I believe actually it is not in the public domain. The Maryland Historical Trust is not part of the Federal government, even if it may get some funding from there. If it is part of the State of Maryland, that would also not suffice to put the website in the public domain. State materials are in general not public domain; I don't know if you are aware of that? doncram (talk) 23:02, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems i erred in identifying the relevant webpage, and i apologize also about not checking the External links you had provided in the article. I too quickly evaluated it as being sourceless, because there was only one reference (to the NRIS database which is not a source for text). But there are in fact passages in the drafted article that duplicate copyrighted text. I list for comparison passages in the Talk page of the article, at Talk:William W. Early House (Brandywine, Maryland). In general, there's not resistance to your creating and developing articles about sites in the Brandywine area, and I am glad you are enjoying getting started in wikipedia, but there are some adjustments needed. In general, you need to put info into your own words, although short quotes are acceptable from copyrighted sources under fair use (although quote marks and footnotes to the sources are absolutely needed), and longer quotes to public domain material are okay (and here quote marks and footnotes to the source are helpful and, in my personal view very necessary, but my personal view is not necessarily the wikipedia official policy at this time). You may find it helpful to browse in wikipedia policy/guideline areas such as wp:plagiarism and wp:copyright. Thanks, doncram (talk) 23:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

disambiguation tools[edit]

FYI, when wondering about whether a given name needs disambiguation or not, i use two Elkman-supported tools: http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/dablinker.php which generates starter text for a new disambiguation page; and http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/whohas.php, which checks for any occurrences of a given word or phrase in any NRHP site name. Using the latter on the word "stables" i see there are only about 10 NRHP places nation-wide with that word in the name, for example. Of course Google searching is another tool relevant in a disambiguation question... searching on "Belair Stables" turns up mostly hits on the Bowie, Maryland one, but also in the first two pages of results shows a historic use of Bel-Air Stables in Los Angeles, CA, and a Bel Air Stables in Arizona. I interpret that to mean that the Bel Air Stables in Maryland is the primary usage, and I think the others are not wikipedia notable, so I would not create articles on them. So a disambiguation page on Belair Stables would have just one entry, i.e. be an invalid disambiguation page, so i conclude it doesn't need disambiguation.... that's just to share how i would think about it, and about the tools. I expect that your judgment was correct for some of the Prince George's County places, that there needed to be disambiguation for them. These tools would help you create disambiguation pages listing the plausible alternatives (like I explained about creating the Leonard House disambiguation above). I don't want to be mysterious about tools that i have use of. No reply necessary, just sharing. doncram (talk) 00:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, good work on the new articles and pictures. I would ask that you turn off the time stamp in your images if you can - there's always a time stamp in the image file metadata in any case. Also, be careful of specific photographs of sculptures like Mother and Child Jan 09.JPG, as those images will fall afoul of copyright - they aren't treated like buildings. I'll do some research, but I will probably have to zap it as a copyvio unless there's a fair-use rationale that can be made. Sorry. Acroterion _(talk) 23:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the sage advice. I'll turn off the camera date on the next trip. I'm curious to know the outcome of the Mother and Child image. I went to the movies over in Greenbelt and there it was! I thought it would make a good addition to the Greenbelt Historic District (Greenbelt, Maryland) page. If it needs to go, so be it! Ted--Pubdog (talk) 23:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It stinks, but the copyright for public sculpture is handled differently from architecture. Unless the article is specifically about the sculpture, fair use won't apply, and the image would only incidentally be able to include the sculpture, as part of a wider panorama. Acroterion _(talk) 23:14, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey i see u have done a whole lot of developing of MD's NRHP lists. They look great. Including all the pics added to sections of the Baltimore list-tables, which didn't exist 2 months ago....nice job.

Anyhow, i wondered if u noticed discussion at wt:NRHP about organizing single city lists. It's linked from a side discussion i was hoping to start up with you, at Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in Baltimore (Independent City). I would be into re-splitting up the Baltimore lists into 9 (or fewer) geo-based lists. Each resulting article would look pretty much the same, just involves cutting and pasting rows into different tables. Please comment! Cheers, doncram (talk) 05:12, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I very much appreciate your work on Maryland NRHP articles Deanlaw (talk) 22:30, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I notice you took a photo of my house just a couple of weeks ago and added it here. Nice photo. I'm also the creator of BrandywineMD.com, which has history of the house and town. I'm also familiar with other resources (newspaper articles) for the article to expand it if you're interested. I could help work on the article if it's not against any rules (there are too many rules here). Maybe there is a good example of a complete historic house entry? You can contact me through my web site as I might not check back here soon. JoyceD (talk) 06:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might benefit from looking at the GNIS for your Maryland communities: it can give you the basic data you need to source the articles. Nyttend (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lewisdale, to take a single example, looks quite good! Nyttend (talk) 04:32, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Opera singer example[edit]

The pattern that I follow is the same as I see people follow in general: if the person has no article, remove unless it's something that makes you automatically notable (essentially, either a politician or a professional athlete). Moreover, if the person's article says nothing about the place (for a random example, say if I placed Ezra Meeker at that same community as the opera singer) remove, because there's nothing associating them. Nyttend (talk) 03:57, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps these areas are centered at the two addresses? All I know is that they are officially districts: if the Register lists them as districts, I don't see how they couldn't be districts, even if tiny for a district. Perhaps you could ask Doncram or Elkman? Nyttend (talk) 18:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pubdog. An edit title of yours with "DAB" in it caught my eye, off my watchlist, so I went ahead and created Franklin Square Historic District. You were right in this case that adding (city, state) was needed to distinguish the Baltimore one from others of the same name. In general, it would be more helpful if you'd go ahead and start a disambiguation page if you identify that one is needed. You can generate a cut-and-paste-ready one using Elkman's tool for that at http://www2.elkman.net/nrhp/dablinker.php. And you can tag that for review by me, or tag any other disambiguation page for review by me, by adding {{tl:NRHP dab needing cleanup}} at the top. doncram (talk) 20:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for the sage advice and for pointing me to the Elman tool. Sorry for the naive question, but how would I have started the DAB page without having something to link to? This is the only way I've created new pages. Does that make sense?--Pubdog (talk) 20:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I responded at my Talk page, will be happy to continue there. doncram (talk) 03:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, good, i visited Chapel Hill Historic District which you had developed and tagged. The only thing further to do was to remove the wikilinking of "listed on the NRHP in __" for one entry that already has a bluelink entry. The MOSDAB guideline relevant is that there should usually be exactly one bluelink per entry (either the subject article, or if that is a redlink, then an explanatory link giving an article with context and showing the same redlink). Thanks! doncram (talk) 06:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's a feature/bug of the Elkman system. To create a dab for "St. John's Church" you need to insert a backslash before the apostrophe, so search on "St. John\'s Church" instead. doncram (talk) 01:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

One interesting thing, at least in my mind, is that outside of Maryland there really aren't many historic districts that redirect to neighborhoods; it's really not the standard pattern nationwide, at least in the 25-or-so states that I've observed. If you want to redirect it, by the way, you'd likely do better to send it to Joppa, Maryland, which seems to me to be about an abandoned village that may well be the actual site. Nyttend (talk) 18:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I see you added a picture for Bowie, Maryland and was wondering if you might snap a shot of Bowie High School to help us start expanding that stub of an article?--Ludasaphire (talk) 13:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So "Galesvile" isn't its real name? :-) Thanks for catching the error. Nyttend (talk) 16:11, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, why Linwood, Carroll County, Maryland when Linwood, Maryland is a redlink? Nyttend (talk) 14:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I found in the GNIS search for Linwood, Maryland two instances; one in Carroll County and one in Howard County. Maybe I need to add to the Linwood DAB page?--Pubdog (talk) 14:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense; and I agree that it would be useful to add it to the disambiguation page. Nyttend (talk) 15:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help editing the Holly Hill Entry! I don't really know Wikipedia. - Brooke Clagett Clagett (talk) 20:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great job! One request: would you be able/willing to subcategorise some of them by function? Many states have their own categories that fit under Category:Houses on the National Register of Historic Places or Category:Registered Historic Places of religious function — could you create and populate Category:Houses on the National Register of Historic Places in Maryland and Category:Buildings of religious function on the National Register of Historic Places in Maryland? Nyttend (talk) 02:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can do that. Please note that for historic homes on the NRHP in MD, I've routinely added them to Category:Houses in Maryland. Similar for churches etc. Should I replace them with the new category or add this as another category?--Pubdog (talk) 17:18, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please remove the houses category. To give you a little background: after discussing it at WT:NRHP, I created the Ohio houses category, placing it on every NRHP house that had an article and replacing both "Houses in Ohio" and "NRHP in Ohio". Thanks for placing the Maryland houses in "Houses in Maryland"; many of the Ohio houses weren't in "Houses in Ohio". As far as the religious places: it's probably best to keep them in their "churches" etc. category. Because the religious category can include non-Christian houses of worship (Iowa even includes a mosque!), this category should simply replace "NRHP in Maryland". There was discussion about splitting this type of category by faith, although I don't think that went anywhere. Nyttend (talk) 17:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed redoing Houses cats and adding religious functions to churches in MD. Thanks for the guidance. --Pubdog (talk) 02:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're invited to sign up as a founding member, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#WikiProject Historic Sites ! :) doncram (talk) 05:48, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Historic Sites is opened up. I took the liberty of assuming your support for the wikiproject meant you wanted to join as a member, and I copied your signature to the Members list on the main page. Please visit and add to, or remove, your listing there. Please revise my accidental apparent summary of your interests there, as "Sounds good"; I meant to copy over your signature without that. :) It would be great to hear about what you're interested in the Wikiproject becoming, in your member comment and/or at the Talk page, shortcut wt:HSITES. Thanks for your support! doncram (talk) 17:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just found out from your article on the Gaithersburg B & O Railroad Station and Freight Shed, that it's the same location as the Gaithersburg (MARC station), and I am about to merge both articles. ----DanTD (talk) 23:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. No objection here! I saw the note and was about to do the same thing. I think the details from Gaithersburg B & O Railroad Station and Freight Shed should be merged to Gaithersburg (MARC station). I'll take a look at the results when your done.--Pubdog (talk) 23:33, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See for yourself. I just wish I could merge the railroad and NRHP infoboxes together. ----DanTD (talk) 23:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great! I too think there should be a combined NRHP / rail station infobox. I just don't know how to go abt designing one. Best wishes ...--Pubdog (talk) 23:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's kind of a crapshoot when it comes to combining infoboxes. For Amtrak stations, it works in some, but not all station articles. When it comes to communter railroad stations, on the other hand, it almost always awkward and broken-looking. The railroad infoboxes stay in tact, but the NRHP infoboxes attached to them shrink. Some people are supposed to be fixing this problem, but there hasn't really been that much evidence of any success as of this writing. ----DanTD (talk) 15:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So was the station house restored? ----DanTD (talk) 12:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not aware that the station was restored. It is located at Riverdale and within the historic district. It is a very utilitarian building with little or no historic significance.--Pubdog (talk) 12:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted File:Crawford-Gardner House Apr 09.JPG as you requested. In the future, if you want to have your own image deleted, could you simply place {{db-author}} on the page instead of deleting information and adding a notice on the talk page? Nothing wrong with doing what you did, but it will get deleted a lot faster if it's in the speedy deletion category that {{db-author}} will put it into. The only way I discovered it was looking through your contributions to see if you'd done anything with the house picture :-) Nyttend (talk) 00:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your assistance with the deletion. I will remember your guidance in future!--Pubdog (talk) 09:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note! My first piece of advice: with a source, add a comment in the Comments column explaining that it's both capitol and mansion. Otherwise — because it's the Capitol Complex, not the Governor's Mansion Complex, I think it would be best to redirect it to a section of the Capitol article, which could include a note that the Governor's Mansion is also included, and then to include something in the Governor's Mansion article. The reason I reverted, by the way, is simply because the first column is supposed to display exactly what the official place name is, other than corrections for spelling and formatting. Nyttend (talk) 19:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What you did is exactly what I asked :-) Nyttend (talk) 18:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not continue to re-add former store locations to articles where these lists have been removed. Unless you are prepared to cite reliable sources establishing the notability of individual non-flagship store locations, then the locations are non-notable and not suitable for inclusion, and potentially unverifiable original research. SchuminWeb (Talk) 18:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Agreed. You might want to look at past AfDs such as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Bloomingdale's locations which make it pretty clear that we do not want store lists on Wikipedia. There is a fledgling Malls and Retail Wiki that could use some more information. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Many otters • One hammer • HELP)} 19:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Unfortunately it looks like we have lost in this push to have lists of former locations published on Wikipedia in the name of history. :-( It is however Wikipedia policy to cite your newspaper findings so it has something to fall back on. --DangApricot (talk) 19:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• I relent to your wishes. Very sad decision to not desire to be a place to document these lost pieces of retail history.--Pubdog (talk) 16:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Retailing#Store_lists --DangApricot (talk) 22:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I heard you started a lot of the NRHP articles for Maryland. How should I go about doing it for Scott County, Iowa? CTJF83Talk 19:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, how do I use the Elkman tool? CTJF83Talk 01:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment on Ctjf83's talk page[edit]

You said that you've been told that the NRHP name is sacrosanct and that it must never be changed. Can you show me an example? The only time that I had this topic addressed directly was here. Nyttend (talk) 23:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for taking so long to reply; I was at a friend's wedding (as you may see if you check the Pittsburgh NRHP list in the next few days), so I was quite busy. What I meant was on the listings page: unless there's an error, we always leave the name as it is on the listings page. NOT trying to tell you that the articles should always use the NRHP title. For example, if Caleb's Discovery (Worcester County) were always referred to as the "Caleb Mansion" except by the NRHP, I think that the article would properly be named "Caleb Mansion". For this reason, when I created articles on "Covenanter Church" [Stafford, KS"] and "First Concrete Street in U.S." [Bellefontaine, OH], I entitled them Stafford Reformed Presbyterian Church and Court Avenue. However, I believe that the listings page should have its link formatted as [[Caleb Mansion|Caleb's Discovery]], since the listings page is essentially an NRHP list. Am I making sense, or did you mean something else? Sorry if this has been repetitive/offensive/annoying in any other way; I don't mean it. Nyttend (talk) 02:56, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As far as the spinning star — see your userpage. You definitely deserve it! Don't think that I'll give you anything that you ask me for :-) but I would have likely given this to you if I'd thought of it. I simply don't think of barnstars, and I believe that this is only the second one I've ever given in three years on Wikipedia. Nyttend (talk) 01:22, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uhhh...do you mean that you're leaving Wikipedia? Or do you simply mean that when you leave, you'll be more satisfied? I hope you mean the latter :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very impressed with your work getting Niagara County's NRHP list filled out with pictures and articles! Did you take most of those new pictures yourself? Powers ^T 11:33, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've been taking some pictures around Monroe County but I always get nervous about upsetting someone with "unauthorized" picture-taking, so I don't do a lot. =) I'm sticking to public properties for the time being... Powers ^T 22:22, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have posted the Random picture of the day on your userpage, I hope you will contribute. - Presidentman (talk) Random Picture of the Day 12:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Pubdog, thank you for your thoughtful comments on my photos. I went ahead and added an image to the Dorchester County Courthouse but I also wanted to ask whether you knew anything about the appropriate process or etiquette for replacing an existing picture with a new one before I replace the image for Rivermont. I live in Silver Spring myself and I am planning to start tracking down images for the National Register of Historic Places listings in Montgomery County, Maryland. Eli.pousson (talk) 01:02, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, interesting...thanks for explaining, because I'd not noticed the etymology. Even aside from its naming format, I assumed that it should be where I put it because it's alphabetised under S at the list of NHLs. I think that it's best to keep it at S because of what it looks like: the reader might initially be surprised at seeing any of our lists not going strictly alphabetically, but once it is realised that we alphabetise by last name, it would likely be rather surprising to find something that looks like it got missed, even if it's a different situation. Seems to me that, if we alphabetise by P, we should italicise "Peggy Stewart" to make clear that it's not a personal name. What do you think? Nyttend (talk) 12:31, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think its fine to leave it as is.--Pubdog (talk) 16:13, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see you've created the Category:Post office buildings on the National Register of Historic Places in New York and moved one of my articles there. I did too. Are you going to do all Long Island Post Offices, or just choos random New York PO articles for this category? ----DanTD (talk) 23:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, if you two are working on these, perhaps you'd want to link in the MPS document that applies for many of them (and shows in many of their infoboxes): "United States Post Offices in New York State - 1858 to 1943 - Thematic Resources". The MPS/TR document is at http://www.nr.nps.gov/multiples/64000597.pdf. For example, i'll do U.S. Post Office (Catskill, New York) right now, adding both an external link and a more or less properly constructed footnote reference, both of which you can copy if u like. doncram (talk) 18:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see you're wrestling with category terminology. Not very easy, is it? You're doing better than I did. Acroterion _(talk) 19:16, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you created this category and later blanked the page. A faster way to delete a category you've created yourself is to place {{db-author}} on the page. This tag attracts the attention of an administrator who can perform the deletion for you. Contact me if you have questions about this. Best regards, --Stepheng3 (talk) 21:55, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I promised him I'd do it and got distracted; JamieS93 took care of it. Acroterion _(talk) 23:57, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will you consider watchlisting David Ferriero and New York Public Library (NYPL)? I'm not sure what to make of unanticipated criticism of what I wrote about a living person in 2008. As you may know, Ferriero has been nominated to become the 10th Archivist of the United States. I'm puzzled by the complaint that the article appeared to have been drafted with an overly favorable bias; and I don't know how best to respond to the implied criticism of the NYPL article as well.

I recognize that Wikipedia's article about NYPL does fail to address the extraordinary changes in corporate culture which have been implemented during Ferriero's tenure; and by implication, I see how this points to a significant flaw in the Ferriero article.

I understand the problem, but I don't know what to do about it. I admit frankly that this is a little bit beyond my ability. --Tenmei (talk) 14:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Consistency is good! I've seen editors misspell the same word 5 different ways in the same article. I have enjoyed many of your photos, by the way. Happy editing!

Hi, Pubdog. I see you created stub articles for several hamlets in Niagara County. I'm not sure they meet our criteria for inclusion. Usually hamlets have very little notability and are redirected to the town in which they are located. Powers ^T 14:44, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hadn't realized there were so many, although a quick check of a few selected at random indicates that most of them are CDPs as well as hamlets, which seem to have more widely-accepted notability. I'm currently looking for someplace where these guidelines might be written down; right now it's just my perception which could easily be completely wrong. Powers ^T 17:10, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After perusing Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 59#Needs resolution: Are places inherently notable? and Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 62#New level of geographical notability?, I think there seems to be a consensus that places need some sort of reliable sources to merit a separate article. Without census records (since they're not CDPs) or incorporation documentation (since they're not villages), I don't think these hamlets qualify. (Hamlets that were once incorporated villages might.) Granted, this is just my opinion, but I think it'd be better to keep these hamlets as just lists in the town articles. Powers ^T 02:53, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Try Search: Oxon Cove Park, Looks like 2 semi-dup articlesBenjamin Trovato (talk) 02:25, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, i noticed your recent edits in the U.S. Post Office article. I see you're adding value by linking from the entries in the disambiguation page to articles which now exist. FYI, though, the rules for disambiguation pages (mostly at wp:MOSDAB) include that pipelinks should not be used to hide what a disambiguation item links to.

So, if there's an article at Old Post Office (Buffalo) which covers the NRHP there, and if that is the correct name to keep the article at, then disambiguation style policy is that the current NRHP-name-based entry for U.S. Post Office (Buffalo, New York) (which was a redlink) in the disambiguation page should be just changed to be the article name "Old Post Office (Buffalo)", rather than pipelinking to it from the NRHP name. Also, it would be helpful to set up a redirect from the NRHP name to the article name. I'll do that now for "U.S. Post Office (Buffalo, New York)".

In NRHP list-articles, on the other hand, I believe it's proper to show the NRHP name for the place, so the Buffalo NRHP list-article should still show "U.S. Post Office (Buffalo, New York)" and should redirect or pipelink to the existing article at "Old Post Office (Buffalo)". In NRHP list-articles, I am very pro-NRHP, but disambiguation articles are different.

A further question is whether "Old Post Office (Buffalo)" is the proper name for that article, which is not clear to me. I often am moving such articles to use (City, State) disambiguation rather than just (City) or just (State). And I don't see it justified in that article that it is named "Old Post Office". The NRHP infobox in the article should certainly show the NRHP name, instead, and the NRHP name should also appear in bold in the lede, IMO.

I am not really enamored of these rules, and of maintaining the U.S. Post Office dab page, but since u are editing there i thot i should try to share this much. By the way the post office names have been discussed in wt:NRHP archives a few times. There could be room for improvement, for renaming a whole bunch of them, perhaps in conjunction with the National Register itself, but I haven't cared to really go further with it. Pls. let me know if I can address any questions or help if u had energy to get places actually renamed by the National Register. doncram (talk) 17:47, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Further, i added the Buffalo one to the Old Post Office disambiguation page, and renamed the article to include (City, State), and I revised the entry for it in the U.S. Post Office page to what I think is in proper compliance with dab rules now: "U.S. Post Office (Buffalo, New York), now known as Old Post Office (Buffalo, New York), formerly tallest building in Buffalo and NRHP-listed". Whew! I leave it to you to revisit, perhaps, the other ones u edited. doncram (talk) 18:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm impressed by the work you're doing in this area, and I'd appreciate it if you'd be more careful in supplying latitude and longitude coordinates for these places. In particular, the number of minutes (or seconds) of latitude (or longitude) cannot be 60, as it was in Belmont Hotel (Belmont, New York) and Alverson-Copeland House when you created them. I fix these when I find them, but I'm hoping that with this heads-up you can catch these errors earlier in the process. --Stepheng3 (talk) 01:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, i notice one remaining redlink in National Register of Historic Places listings in Allegany County, New York. And I added MPS document links for the cobblestone and PO ones in Orleans county, but haven't gone thru the others. If you notice an mpsub in the infobox for a new article, you might want to consult wp:MPS and consider adding an external link to the PDF which should be available. And, about restricted access sites in New York State alone, I have copies of many/most NRHP documents which used to be available in the OPRHP system, but are no longer. I'd be willing to share to you, or if you point me to any archeological site ones in those counties I could add some info directly. Again, great work there! doncram (talk) 15:36, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How do you feel about merging Manokin, Maryland into the more developed Manokin Historic District article, both of which you started? The historic district area is over 4 square miles and encompasses the entire settlement. Thanks. --Polaron | Talk 05:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification. I've added a hatnote to the "Manokin, Maryland" article to help direct readers to the appropriate article. --Polaron | Talk 16:54, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Drmies (talk) 05:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

... for the barnstar! It's nice to have one's work recognized. --sanfranman59 (talk) 05:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. I appreciate the work you have done (and are doing) in writing articles on them and taking photos. BTW do you have a photo of St. Peter's Chapel in Solomons? If so, please post it in the article. Best wishes. clariosophic (talk) 14:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I appreciate that you made some efforts to paraphrase the text on Andrew Jackson Warner so it would no longer be a copyright infringement. Unfortunately, adding synonyms and minor alterations in the sentences won't relieve the plagiarism issue. As it is currently written, the text will need to be deleted as a copyright violation. You are welcome to rewrite the text using original language. The page on WP:Close paraphrasing can provide you with some explanations and help. In the long run, it is always better to simply write the text from scratch using your own words. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Regards. Theleftorium 20:32, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It's very appreciated. :) Theleftorium 20:41, 12 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I was able to help with a photo. There was a restoration project sign on the fence that wasn't in the photo. Hopefully there will be some work on the building soon.Shinerunner (talk) 23:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Pubdog. It seems like this is a navbox, which according to guidelines should go at the bottom of articles. Is there some other documentation that advises otherwise for NRHP lists? Powers ^T 13:28, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I had always figured that it was formatted like a TOC and would be used like one. Oregon uses it like a navbox, however. I'm open to the idea of moving/reformating the box, but your welcome to bring it up at WT:NRHP and see what others think. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^{Don't give up the ship} 21:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking and adding the pic, etc. It's great! I continue to be amazed at how many Carpenter Gothic churches have survived. Best wishes and many thanks. clariosophic (talk) 01:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the complement. I printed the list for Erie County and I'm trying to take some photos while I travel for work. I've uploaded some more images to the article and list pages. If I get a chance I'll print out the list for the surrounding counties as my work tends to send me all over Western New York.Shinerunner (talk) 00:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I've opened the discussion on NRHP photos at Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions#NRHP_nomination_photos and hope that you'll comment there. Smallbones (talk) 17:05, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jesse Robinson House Wellsboro PA Oct 09.JPG has no description; could you add one? Nyttend (talk) 22:08, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks for catching that--Pubdog (talk) 22:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SchuminWeb (Talk) 05:52, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The links to the Maryland Historical Trust seem to have changed from www.marylandhistoricaltrust.net to mht.maryland.gov [1]. A very diligent IP editor has started at the beginnjng and is changing them, but it seems like a bot could do that, or at least a human with AutoWikiBrowser. I have no AWB mojo - don't know if you've used it or not. We could also try at WP:BOTREQ. Acroterion _(talk) 19:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have nominated New Market Historic District, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Market Historic District. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Si Trew (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Believe me, you're not the only one to be perplexed by the idea of merging these two. I've raised the issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cities; feel free to offer your opinion there. Nyttend (talk) 01:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't know. We'll have to see once the system goes down by the end of the month, but I'd not be surprised if the links go bad. Admittedly, this won't make the information unverifiable — the online forms are copies of printed documents, after all — but it will likely mean plenty of work for us. The change in systems is mostly likely to have an impact on the forms for archaeological sites, since all but two archaeological sites are on ARCH, but almost none of them are on the new server. Nyttend (talk) 02:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Would you be willing to help with downloading nomination forms? Besides what Niagara and Ruhrfisch have done, I've gotten all forms for Allegheny, Armstrong, Beaver, Butler, Clarion, Forest, Lawrence, and Venango counties. Nyttend (talk) 02:15, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. I've planned to do Fayette, Greene, and Washington, so they're now italicised. Thanks again! Nyttend (talk) 02:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because the current bold-and-italics setup on my talk page isn't too informative, I've put together a chart for the download of nomination forms here. Would you please check this page? Please note the "confirmed" column — if you've downloaded the forms that the chart says you have, please change the "N" to a "Y", and if you've done work that the chart says you've not or if you've not done work the chart says you have, please change the chart to reflect reality. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 02:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I don't know why I didn't think to add the link on my talk page. Nyttend (talk) 02:46, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Please note that "Number of Forms" is not quite accurate. I've found as I go through that there are a number of sites that do not have forms and other sites that share forms with multiple entries. Also, I've downloaded multiple PDF for single sites, particularly HDs with registration forms and inventories. Not a big deal, but the number of downloads won't match the number of forms. For instance, I've download 950 files related to 871 NHRP in 18 counties.--Pubdog (talk) 02:52, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Again, thanks; I've added a note about this to the top of the table. Don't know about you, but I've found a few sites with four separate forms each. Nyttend (talk) 03:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect ... thanks for making that important clarification.--Pubdog (talk) 03:10, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[unindent] Don't worry :-) I've not done as much as Ruhrfisch has, but I've always saved the URLs for each file, so that we can continue to cite the online documents even if they get taken down. I don't really know any good reason for doing this except for the basic requirements for WP:V. However, I don't believe that this is the only way to cite them properly; since the forms are always available on paper, if you're writing an article with one of these as a source, you could cite them as if you had a paper copy of the form instead of a digital copy. See Zimmerman Kame for an example of how I format a paper copy. Nyttend (talk) 01:36, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be willing to sign up for one or more letters for Philadelphia County? I've added a table at the signup page splitting Philadelphia by letter; as you can mark downloads by county for most counties, you can mark that you've downloaded or are downloading sites in Philadelphia that begin with A, or begin with Q, or anything else. I'm planning to add a table for Chester County as well, but I need to get to bed. Nyttend (talk) 06:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're going so fast that Ruhrfisch won't get a chance to help with Philadelphia :-) Thanks for all the work! I'd download more right now, but I need to get ready for church; I'll see what more I can do when I get back this evening, if there's anything left to do :-) Nyttend (talk) 17:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What else would there be to download? Nyttend (talk) 13:15, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Smallbones signed up to get all of Chester County, but after downloading three townships, s/he has discovered that there's no time — "I bit off a bit more than I can chew (comfortably)", s/he tells me. Could you help to download some of its forms? I'm going to post a chart of all Chester County listings by municipality, and I've asked Smallbones to note which three municipalities are done. Nyttend (talk) 19:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your help with the downloads! Smallbones completed the final Chester County downloads last night, so everything is safe.

As someone who seems to be familiar with Buffalo, New York, would you look at Erie County Hall, Buffalo and County and City Hall? They seem to be the same article, but I'm not entirely sure. Nyttend (talk) 20:24, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update on Chester Co. By the way, what should I do with the forms I downloaded?

Yes, you are correct that the articles for Erie County Hall, Buffalo and County and City Hall are for the same building. A merge of them is appropriate. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.--Pubdog (talk) 02:13, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I really don't know New York (only visited twice, and I was 13 the last time I was there), so I thought I'd defer to someone who knew Buffalo somewhat. Didn't hurt that you wrote the one article :-) As far as the forms — I'd advise you to save them for later, in case they aren't available at the CRGIS interface that is replacing ARCH. Of course, you could also check on the CRGIS page (https://www.dot7.state.pa.us/ce/login.asp) to see which forms are there and get rid of the ones that are there and that you don't want. Ruhrfisch and I began the download effort in order to ensure that we would have forms that weren't on CRGIS, so there's no real need to keep forms that turn out to be on CRGIS if you don't want them. Nyttend (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge of Erie County Hall, Buffalo to County and City Hall complete.--Pubdog (talk) 23:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've uploaded a HABS picture of the original Bridge between Monroe and Penn Townships. Do you think that the original or your photo of the replacement is more appropriate for the Snyder County list? Please look at the list and (1) change the image, or (2) tell me that you agree with the way it is right now. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 22:57, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the way you've perfected Bridge between Monroe and Penn Townships. Thanks!

You're quite welcome :-) Nyttend (talk) 23:00, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, there aren't any more pictures; other than the one I uploaded, HABS doens't have any pictures of sites that we don't already have. HABS only has ones for the Gross Bridge and four sites in the Selinsgrove area, all of which already have pictures. Nyttend (talk) 23:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why thanks for that :) Yeah I don't know how I missed the New York part. WikiCleaner is not a bot, btw. All of the changes are made by my chubby fingers. :) So any mistakes are mine. Again, thanks. --User:Woohookitty ^{Disamming fool!} 12:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiCleaner is perfect for disamming. Other things? Probably not as efficient. --User:Woohookitty ^{Disamming fool!} 12:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

	<font=3> Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all the best in 2010! Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 03:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Believe it or not, I use MS Paint and Paint.NET to do almost alll of my maps. Paint.NET is useful be cause you can do layers that are transparent and make sure things drawn by hand line up with maps/ aerial photos. There are free street maps at http://www.opensteetmap.org that may be useful for you. The Census maps also show streets at http://factfinder.census.gov - see File:Presque Isle State Park Map.png for an example. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, Nyttend is traveling and so has not repsonded to your post (I am keeping an eye on his talk page). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:02, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a beautiful pic -- now two of yours sandwiched 'tween two of mine. I'll bet you were tempted to back into the damn sign. Happy New Year, . . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs) 23:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for uploading File:Beltway Plaza.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. FASTILY ^(TALK) 11:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

fyi i have NRHP docs for some/many of the nys archeol sites, including Robinson Bay Archeological District, which i can share by email if you are interested and if you promise to handle confidential info appropriately. :) doncram (talk) 18:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No complaints. I'm familiar with the way that PA works, and it looks great. I hope to be back to work in a couple of days; I'm most of the way back home from a trip to Colorado for a week, so there will be a bit of cleanup and watchlist-checking to get done. And in case you wonder: yes, I did get at least one picture of a site that didn't have any pictures :-) Nyttend (talk) 05:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI: so far it's just the two of us with comments over there ... I'm hoping to get a third opinion from at least one other editor. My view is that the site doesn't meet WP:EL guidelines due to the WP:ELNO issue; but if others don't feel the same way, there may be support for the links. Either way, a third opinion can help provide better guidance for or against them. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 02:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

When creating all those articles on MD NRHP sites, did you encounter many archaeological sites that turned out to be villages of the Monongahela or Shenks Ferry peoples? I've been creating articles lately on Pennsylvania archaeological sites (complete with {{Monongahela villages in Pennsylvania}}), and I'm soon to start on some sites from the Shenks Ferry people, so I'd be interested in seeing if there are already articles on other villages of this people. Nyttend (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I asked primarily for the sake of categorisation, as I put Category:Monongahela villages in specifically Pennsylvania categories when I created it, not knowing whether there were also Monongahela villages in West Virginia or Maryland. Nyttend (talk) 03:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, are you planning on creating more articles from National Register of Historic Places listings in Scott County, Iowa? If so, I'd be glad to help you. A PR I'm doing suggested getting more of the articles on the NRHP of Scott County created before submitting my PR for FL/GA. CTJF83 chat 18:39, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the message. I'm afraid my interest in Scott County is limited toUnited States Post Office and Court House (Davenport, Iowa). I'm working on NRHP articles from Wikipedia:WikiProject United States courts and judges/courthouses--Pubdog (talk) 01:32, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awww, ok CTJF83 chat 19:32, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi pubdog. i haven't forgotten about the U.S. vs. United States question/issue, but i dont feel up to convening a discussion about it, won't for some time. I can keep it open on my Talk page until i do, or get back to you otherwise. --doncram (talk) 03:54, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about taking an age to get back to you regarding the tags on Bridgewater Railroad Station‎ and Holland Patent Railroad Station. I've had a look and managed to deorphan the Holland Patent Railroad Station article, but can't find a required third link for Bridgewater Railroad Station. However I imagine at some point an article for Unadilla Valley Railway will be created with a link to Bridgewater Railroad Station at which point the orphan tag can come off as it only needs a link from one more article in order to no longer qualify as an orphan. Miyagawa (talk) 16:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I like what you've been doing developing starter articles for NRHPs among National Register of Historic Places listings in Madison County, New York‎. As you've seen, i've started some stubs there, too. Actually i think i may be able to add pics sometime for some of them, but I am mostly trying to be helpful in getting them started, and I hope you will further develop the ones i have touched. Often i am pretty low-energy in my stubbing; it would be great if you'd apply your writing skill to describe better the significance of each property as you do so well elsewhere. I do see it is a lot of work! Cheers, --doncram (talk) 23:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the affirmation. I think I've exhausted available pics, so look forward to additional. Best wishes--Pubdog (talk) 00:39, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see Madison county NRHP list all stubbed out! Hey, i wonder if you'd be interested/willing to do Suffolk or Nassau counties next, out of your apparent west-to-east order. Those counties and the wp:LONGI wikiproject could use some activity; others there might possibly then be energized and develop further. I expect that User:DanTD and others there would just be glad to see the activity. Let me know which you're working on next, anyhow, and I may try to help out occasionally as with Madison. --doncram (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Or jump ahead to do one of the Albany area counties, within wp:CAPDIS region, for similar reasoning; or one of the Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City area ones. Just one county in each wikiproject area would suffice. I did find it refreshing, providing good pressure, when you got into the WikiProject Syracuse area that i have some association with. --doncram (talk) 20:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, i see ur almost done with List of RHPs in Chenango now. Great stuff!  :) I'm starting at the other end of the state, per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Long Island#editing campaign for all NRHP places. I'm gonna try doing descriptions in the list-articles as i go. --doncram (talk) 21:08, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all the progress in Suffolk! I jumped in with Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Capital District#completing articles for all NRHP places in cap dis now, to put them on notice, too. Any which order u choose, your pace is incredible and it would seem likely u'll get to their area soon.  :) Cheers, --doncram (talk) 19:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]