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Apologies for the infraction of Wikipedia policies, as this is my first article. Is it possible that I may have my article directly sent to me in a way that keeps it in tact but unpublished so that it does not conflict any policies? Is the archived version available? If so please let me know.

Thank You Lalschalaune (talk) 10:07, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lalschalaune: You can ask for the text to be restored to your user sandbox or the draft article space by submitting a request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. However, there are two things you must be aware of first.

You appear to be affiliated with this organization, so for you to write about it is an inherent conflict of interest. In addition, if you are in a paid position with this organization, then you would be considered a paid editor by Wikipedia's compulsory paid editing disclosure policy. Please review both of these links and make any required disclosures of your affiliation with this organization before making any other edits.

Secondly, not every organization that exists is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. An organization has to be notable by Wikipedia's definition to be included. This requires that the organization has already acquired significant coverage from multiple reliable and independent sources. We are not interested in what an organization wishes to say about itself. We are interested in what third-party writers - who have no personal, political or financial interest in the topic - have chosen on their own to write about it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drm310, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Draft:Mehrdad Biazarikari, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:49, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings Drm310, I have noticed that your signature contains an image in it which does not follow the guidelines of WP:SIGIMAGE. Thank you. -- Grapefanatic (talk) 13:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Grapefanatic: The maple leaf in my signature is an emoji and not considered an image. Use of emojis has been allowed per multiple discussions in the archives of Wikipedia talk:Signatures. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:50, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thank you for telling me. -- Grapefanatic (talk) 14:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drm310. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Chirag kheni, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not a blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a webhost. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:07, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The redirect Iconic Bassist Extrodinair...The New Era of Live Music has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 March 18 § Iconic Bassist Extrodinair...The New Era of Live Music until a consensus is reached. -- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 06:14, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Drm310, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:3sgf/sandbox, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 16:13, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User is in fact an indigenous music artist trying to give reference in web search. Cj Tha Stray (talk) 20:55, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As it is important this remains existing for future generations within the Australian indigenous community. Cj Tha Stray (talk) 20:59, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am not 100% with the process of uploading an artist information and am slowly getting to the references of my work.

Although if you would like to help then please research my work online and then formulate and objective to contribute. Cj Tha Stray (talk) 21:04, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@CjThaStray: You cannot use Wikipedia to promote yourself or your work; this is an inherent conflict of interest. We have no interest in what a person wants to say about themselves. Only persons who meet Wikipedia's notability requirements are worthy of inclusion, and a person is not capable of being an objective judge of their own notability.

Promotion has a broad definition on Wikipedia. It doesn't mean just advertising something or someone for commercial gain; it also means attempts to "create awareness" for a person, group or cause. Wikipedia is not a place to tell the world about a worthy cause or right historical wrongs.

Wikipedia articles are about topics that have already acquired significant coverage from a variety of reliable and independent sources. The content of articles consists of paraphrased summaries of material previously published in the aforementioned reliable sources. They are written in a plainly factual, emotionless and neutral point of view. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:39, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Helping Hand Barnstar given to me by Ponyo (talk) on 16:15, 23 March 2023 (UTC) has been moved to my user page. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not much use trying to tell unblock requesters that the colons and such screw up the formatting; our own automatic reply mechanism is, I think, where those colons as well as the double signatures are coming from. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 05:40, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Why do you want my page down? There is nothing wrong with it DinnoSteelerss (talk) 19:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect. Publicizing your team's existence to the world is promotion and not allowed. Unless your team is notable according to Wikipedia's definition, then it's not worthy of inclusion. And even if it is, someone connected to the team should not be the one to write about it. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:08, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Subject: Seeking Clarification on Profile Deletion and Requesting Assistance

Dear Drm310,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to seek clarification on the deletion of my user profile page and to request your guidance on how to properly create a profile that adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines.

I understand that my profile may have appeared too similar to a CV, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. However, I noticed that your user profile contains a considerable amount of personal information, which seems to align with the reasons my profile was deleted. My intention was to maintain a professional tone by including a brief bio. This I got from your profile which seems like a CV, violating the principles of the profile. Can you comment and maybe when I help what does it mean that looks like a CV: | occupation = Programmer | employer = | education = Bachelor of Engineering | university = University of Saskatchewan | hobbies = Gardening, Local history, Photography | religion = Atheist | politics = Social democrat

I also see that it explicitly says that is flexible, so I imagine the titles should not be a problem, so I do not have to follow exactly the headline, is that right?

Could you please provide specific feedback on which aspects of my profile were problematic? This will help me understand how to proceed and create a compliant user page. I am eager to contribute to Wikipedia by updating and writing articles, but as a newcomer, I would appreciate clear guidance on the process.

In the future, it would be helpful if, instead of outright deletion, the original page could be preserved with suggestions for improvement. This would allow users like myself to learn from the experience and make the necessary updates more efficiently.

I look forward to your response and appreciate any advice you can provide on how to proceed. Thank you for your time and attention.

Sincerely,

Corzogac Corzogac 15:23, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Corzogac. Although I did nominate your userpage for deletion, it was another user with admin privileges (Explicit) who deleted it. I cannot read deleted content, so I do not remember the exact details of what your userpage contained. However, I must have felt like it seemed too much like self-promotion or resumé-like material.

While it is fine to mention one's education and professional experience, the key is brevity. I use the template called {{Infobox user}} as a way to condense this down to the bare minimum. One's accolades and achievements in life do not build or enhance your reputation as a Wikipedia user, so "talking up" these things can often come across as self-promotional. Everyone is considered equal here, regardless of their education or life experience.

I see that you have decided to recreate your userpage after it was deleted. While I would have preferred that you wait until I had a chance to reply to your inquiry, this version of your userpage looks acceptable now. I would add the template {{userpage}} to the top, as this will clearly demonstrate that you are aware that it is a userpage and not an attempt at an autobiography.

The last thing I will mention is if you edit a topic where you have a close personal or professional connection, then you should disclose this as a conflict of interest. If you edit a topic where you have a financial interest (for example, your employer or a client), then the much stricter and mandatory paid editing disclosure policy applies. These disclosures should be made on your userpage as well, where they are clearly visible. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I understand now more.

I will add the {{userpage}} on the top. Also later I might add the {{infobox user}}, which I see like the space you use for providing details of the person.

Regards Corzogac 17:06, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I work for Garrett Camp. The current page is promotional and relies almost exclusively on press releases, guest blogs, short blurbs, and brief mentions in passing. In compliance with WP:COI, I disclosed my connection to Mr. Camp and shared a draft rewrite on the Talk page that is a more proper biography summarizing independent sources.

You gave me a welcome message on my Talk page that said that I could ask you to look at a draft I'd like to propose, so I was hoping you might be willing to take a look. Generally, the proposed draft is substantially less promotional and better cited than the current page. However, the draft would make some neutrality balances to criticisms about an expensive house he bought in the "Wealth" section. John Pinette (talk) 15:02, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@John Pinette: Thank you for reaching out, and also for making the proper disclosures. I will have a look at your proposed rewrite and provide some feedback. It might take me a few days, but I will get to it when time permits. I will be in touch. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:52, 12 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. 171.101.104.244 (talk) 00:50, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Drm310. I wanted to follow up regarding the proposed draft I shared for the Garrett Camp page. You suggested a month ago that it might take some time to review.

@Tristario: already addressed the BLP issues. I just wanted to see if reviewing the rest of the draft was still on your radar. I don't anticipate my COI being all that controversial for the rest of it, now that the BLP issues are addressed, but still want to follow protocol. Thanks John Pinette (talk) 17:09, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Drm310. In May you said you would review the proposed draft I had put together on the Garrett Camp page pursuant to WP:COI. Over the last few months, editors have reached a consensus on the BLP issues on the page, but no one has reviewed the draft that contains the other 95% of the improvements I was hoping to make, to reduce promotion and expand on encyclopedic content. I know it's been some months, but I wanted to circle back to see if you still had any interest in reviewing the draft. Let me know if you prefer I annotate it, or do one section at-a-time - whatever makes it easier to review. Thanks. John Pinette (talk) 18:08, 5 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@John Pinette: Sorry for my absence, I have had work pressures and a death in the family taking most of my time in recent months. You might want to enlist someone else's help if you need some quicker feedback. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 21:27, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I saw that you added your name to the volunteer list, then took it off due to a lack of response. I'm sorry that nobody got back to you quickly, but the SPI clerk application process moves slowly. My suggestion is to keep your name on the list and be patient. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:03, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: Thanks, I will consider it... although I see another applicant hasn't gotten a response since November 2022. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:07, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I feel your pain. It's a long-term problem, and one that I'm not happy about. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:28, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Let me echo RoySmith's point above. Although I'm not an SPI clerk or a functionary, from observing the history of that page (and some experience from my failed request) SPI clerks requests can take a very long time. Take the latest addition to the team, for example: their name was added to the list way back in June 2022, and appointed about a year later. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 14:28, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks RoySmith and 0xDeadbeef - I've decided to re-add myself. Hopefully I'll still have the time and interest when my application is reviewed. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:38, 3 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

DrEricss (talk) 05:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC) Dear thank you for the feedback, let me think around it and get back with a better version of that article. appreciated your help.[reply]

@DrEricss: Please be aware that a company is not entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because it exists. All topics must be notable by Wikipedia's definition to merit inclusion. In the specific case of a company, it must meet the notability criteria for companies and organizations. For this to happen, the company must have already received significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources.

Please use the WP:Article wizard to create a draft article that can be reviewed by other uninvolved editors prior to publication. Reviewers will check for various requirements to ensure that it is acceptable (notability, proper use of citations to reliable sources, formal tone and neutral point of view). If the reviewer declines your draft, they will tell you why, and what it needs to be accepted if you re-submit it for review. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 12:32, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Publsihed Trainocate Group article. How long does it take to get approved and see on Wikipedia search? Masnaida (talk) 08:44, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Masnaida Since you are addressing a specific user, the help me tags are unnecessary. 331dot (talk) 08:54, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As both 331dot and I have pointed out, you have a matter of higher priority to resolve first. You have a mandatory obligation to clearly and visibly disclose your employment with this company. The preferred way to this is with the {{paid}} template on your userpage (User:Masnaida). Your employment is, by itself, sufficient for you to be considered a paid editor.

You've made two copies of this article: Draft:Trainocate Group and User:Masnaida/sandbox. I would concentrate your efforts on Draft:Trainocate Group, since that is the preferred space to create draft articles. It must be submitted for review by clicking the "Submit the draft for review!" button in the article header. This will add it to the queue of drafts for review. Please note that this process is backlogged, and can take several weeks for a review to be done. Since there is no deadline and all Wikipedia users are volunteers who edit in their spare time, you will simply have to wait your turn.

As 331dot also mentioned, a company is not entitled to have a Wikipedia article just because it exists. All topics must be notable by Wikipedia's definition to merit inclusion. In the specific case of a company, it must meet the notability criteria for companies and organizations. This requires that the company has already received significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources. I can already tell that the draft reviewers will have issues with some of your sources: CNET (unreliable per this dicussion), trade publications (often promotional in nature due to their target audience) and Trainocate's own website (both a primary and self-published source). Your method of citing sources is also non-standard; please review WP:Citing sources and Help:Footnotes for the standardized way of embedding sources in your article. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:39, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I am so new at this stuff. One of my friends has tried adding me to my hometown's wikipedia page because he seems to think I am worthy. I decided to see if I could meet the guidlines for my own wikipedia page since no one was jumping up to create it for me. I am #2 in the World in Artistic Pool and I have the criteria to match (the World Pool Association is the governing body and I serve on the board of directors) There is a bunch of info out there. I am hoping the draft I created doesnt get shot down or if it does it is detrimental to me becoming part of the wikipedia subjects. Michiganpool (talk) 23:11, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Michiganpool: I presume that from what you said, you are Jason Lynch himself? If so, then you should not be writing about yourself, for reasons explained at Wikipedia is not about you and Wikipedia:Autobiography. Your friends should also not be writing about you; writing about topics where one has a close personal or professional connection is called a conflict of interest (COI).

While not prohibited outright, COI editing is inherently perilous. It is rightly presumed that an editor with a COI will find it difficult to write from the required neutral point of view; submit content that is sourced only from reliable and independent sources; and avoid using unpublished personal knowledge or experience. Neither you nor your friends are objective judges of your notability.

There are many reasons to not want a Wikipedia article; the most important of which is that you would never have any right of ownership or control over its contents. The neutral point of view policy ensures that both positive and negative information about a topic is fair game, as long as it is reliably sourced, neutrally worded and presented with proper balance. We refer to this as the law of unintended consequences.

I will trust the judgement of the uninvolved editors who will evaluate the draft article to determine if you meet Wikipedia's definition of a notable person. Don't take it personally if it is declined, but also be prepared for what may ensue if it's accepted. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 00:46, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As an uninvolved editor I have reviewed this at AFC. I find there is insufficient and inappropriate referencing to provide WP:V,and have pushed it back to Michiganpool for further work, if they so desire. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:00, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Please, I need your help. There is an editor who has emotional problems (and this is clearly demonstrated on his own page, where he talks about having a lot of stress and wanting to get away from Wikipedia).

My only intention is to use my energy to create articles that are as perfect as possible. I have been on Wikipedia for several years, and as you can see on my page, I have never had a conflict with anyone like I am having now with this editor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JalenFolf)...

First was about the famous Argentine actor Jorge Perez Evelyn (that's his name), who is a third-generation artist; his mother and grandmother were very famous artists in the last century. This editor changed the actor’s name and I complained to him, (he returned it to how it had to be (but he didn't like it at all).

My friend Alfredo Maraw, also a Wikipedia editor, created the article about Jorge's mother (Hilda Dehil) and his grandmother (Anita Bobasso). Since then, it has been a nightmare with the same editor (who is obviously very young) and who did not stop to observe that these people are over 100 years old! The grandmother from 19th century, back then we did not have the press that there is now! Even so, Alfredo got links from the archives of the newspapers, where there are dozens of articles talking about Anita, who also at the end of her life, she made movies.

Regarding Hilda Dehil (Jorge's mother), she was born in 1917, and there were similar problems that were also solved with verifications of links to archives of newspapers and magazines.

My opinion is that the articles by both Anita Bobasso and Hilda Dehil are very good, as they have been appreciated by other editors.

But again, this editor requests "deletion" for Anita Bobasso's article. Because all people there were asking to KEEP IT, he got very angry (again), and noted in the deletion page:

Stop accusing me of WP:IDONTLIKEIT and stop WP:HOUNDing me! I am extremely upset over you and your comrades making ridiculous WP:ASPERSIONS against me in response to this AfD. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No happy at all with that, now he is saying that Alfredo Maraw (my friend, who is a journalist and writer), myself, and others are puppets?

Please, this is a painful and unnecessary waste of time that we should use to do good articles in the encyclopedia and not fight among ourselves. Please visit the page of (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JalenFolf) to see for yourself how controversial it is.

I had the intention of calming the situation, even apologizing, but nothing happened. I would infinitely appreciate your collaboration to end this situation. This editor suffers from stress and obviously wants everyone else to suffer too. Anita Bobasso's article should remain in the encyclopedia out of respect for an Argentine tango star and also because she is not alive to defend herself. Thank you very much in advance, I truly need your help. I am 71 years old and I want peace only. thanks

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New Page Patrol | May 2024 Articles Backlog Drive
On 1 May 2024, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Each review will earn 1 point. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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