User talk:Malerooster

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Can you please expand on the "see talk" edit summary for your removal of my edit, which cited Scientific American, Inside Higher Ed, The Scientist and The Chicago Maroon as sources (the linked article themselves contain a dozen or so more secondary references)? You can reply here, to keep the conversation in one place. 24.12.201.87 (talk) 23:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. It means see talk page. --Malerooster (talk) 02:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Sally Season. Viriditas (talk) 07:53, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion has been opened at Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Frank_L._VanderSloot, where all discussion should take place.

The questions are:

1. Based on the claim of Synthesis, should the original version or the revised version of the LGBT Section be used in the article from henceforth—of course with the ability to edit it as necessary?
2. Because the original "LGBT issues" Section adversely comments on a Living Person, should that section be immediately replaced with the revised section—of course with the ability to edit it as necessary?
3. Should the Sources identified as faulty or not germane be eliminated from the list of References?
   GeorgeLouis (talk) 00:00, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Monty₈₄₅ 17:40, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We do not remove publicly available information about minors if it is properly sourced, as you did in Fred Savage. Wikipedia is not censored. Cresix (talk) 16:44, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cresix, I reverted you and commented on the article talk page. Hopefully others will chime in and we can see if any consensus forms. Unless the minors are notable in their own right, why add their exact dob, how does that improve the article? I believe, but could be wrong, that this is the de facto standard as it were for handling dobs of non notable individuals, and especially minors. I would be open to getting further clarification since I have removed the dobs of many minors and would stop if the consensus was against this. Thank you. --Malerooster (talk) 21:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I also posted to the BLP board and would cite WP:IINFO. --Malerooster (talk) 21:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	On Stanley Salmons. Bearian (talk) 22:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well said regarding SchuminWeb. We rarely see our own hand in mixing the stew. ```Buster Seven Talk 11:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Human nature, and its always alot easier commenting from the cheap seats and monday morning QBing as well :) --Malerooster (talk) 21:58, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I today was invited to Daniel Catullo's office and after meeting him I was allowed to take some photos that I am posting for his Wiki page. I was already in his area and it was no more then ten minutes but I did get photos of the awards in his mane in regard to the titles that you have tried to delete. Can you at least allow me time to get this posted, I do have a normal life...--WPPilot 05:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, ok, hopefully if you include reliable sources for all additions, that would really help. Can you also please link your signature to your talk or user page? At one point you mentioned that you were Daniel. Was that just a mistake? --Malerooster (talk) 05:57, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The photo that is now the MAIN photo of Dan is a photo that I took today of him pointing at the award he won Jammy Award for Dave Matthews –“The Central Park Concert” –(2003-Live Music Special/DVD) (Producer) - "Music DVD of the Year" Billboard Music Awards nomination. Won a Jammy Award for “DVD of the Year”Jammy’s- 2004 Winners and a Telly Award. Is that not source enough for you yet?--WPPilot 06:03, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Would you PLEASE put it back, this is really getting silly. Dan is now a member of Wikipedia, and he is a really nice person. As I said I was able to meet him today. I suggest that you first ASK him, on HIS talk page, rather then just delete the ref as I post pictures of him pointing to the award for the ref that you are removing. Does not seem to productive to me and you are only making more work.--WPPilot 06:05, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

(E/C)A photo? No, that would NOT be a reliable source for that material. I am seriously not trying to bust balls, but the project TRIES for higher standards. There is alot of crap out there, I know, but maybe read WP:RS and see if you could find something better? --Malerooster (talk) 06:07, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WPPilot, thats great that Dan has joined the project and that he is a really nice person, I don't doubt that. This is more about that ALL material in articles, especially bios, is properly sourced, thats all. --Malerooster (talk) 06:11, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you kidding me? A picture of him standing with the award that you claim he dio not win in the office of the company that you also removed from the page, (DC3). What is wrong with you? Why on EARTH would you go ahead and remove DC 3, from the page? Clearly you are on a mission to remove data from his page, WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU REMOVE DC 3? Are you claiming now that he does not own DC3? I will post your summary removals to Dans talk page and ask him to provide some clearification, as it is I saw with my own eyes the awards for the entries that you are so determined to remove from his page.--WPPilot 12:49, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Oi, let's calm down. Though Malerooster actually as a point with something. The award you photographed (GWR) has a different number of cameras used on it then the record says on the website. He does have a point, and now we have two 'reliable sources' competing with one another. Seriously, they should be the same, but they aren't and your own picture is proof of it. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 05:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate assistance. As I understand it BLP doesnt mean one can't write negative things as long as there are reliable sources. There are multiple reliable sources being scrubbed due to Holocaust denial. I can call myself the pope it doesnt make me the pope. Help. Moshe Friedman. Tellyuer1 (talk) 15:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Aloha. Khazar2 recently questioned your edit on the GA review page, and I was wondering you could take a minute to respond. At the moment, his question is located at the very bottom of the page, here. Thanks for your attention. Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just did, thank you for the heads up. --Malerooster (talk) 02:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the welcome. My edit may not be notable, but shouldn't there at least be a section titled "Views"? Proud Novice (talk) 02:31, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Probably not since that is what this guys does, give his view. If this becomes some huge deal, it maybe could be added to his show article which he has or did have. If you feel strongly, you can also comment of the article talk page and see what others think. I am just one bird lover :) Good luck! --Malerooster (talk) 02:35, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I don't know if you will remember but way back in December you were involved in an issue with the Stephen Leather article. The same matter seems to be being raised again by Jprw who tried to have the blog reference included at that time. I really don't know an awful lot about BLP issues or policy so feel I'm a little out of my depth with this. Should it really be possible that the same editors can just keep chipping away at the same issues every few weeks? Should this be brought up (again) at the BLP noticeboard? SagaciousPhil - Chat 13:22, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I vaugely remember this. Yes, if you feel a biography is being edited against policy and could be harmful to the subject, report it to the BLP board. That is probably how I went there in the first place. A number of good editors watch and work on those articles. The project is far from a perfect science and a human touch is involved so results vary widely. Use the talk page and good luck. I'll try to stop by and chime in as well. --Malerooster (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Malerooster, I'm not sure if I have to post a notice about this on your page as well or not (or even if I've done the right thing raising the matter at ANI) but: There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The article is Stephen Leather. Thank you. SagaciousPhil - Chat 17:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain why you did this? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Asian_American&diff=538664285&oldid=538663337

Thank you.

Evildoer187 (talk) 06:00, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This should be discussed in the talk page of the article.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. --Malerooster (talk) 15:32, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to make you aware of this discussion I started at Winter storm naming. I have no intentions of making any changes to the article myself, but was just hoping to get input from editors previously involved in the article (or recently-closed AfD) in an effort to improve the article and clarify its purpose. I will leave any changes to the consensus of other editors who decide what's best. Your participation would be welcome, regardless of your views on the issue. Thank you. 76.189.111.199 (talk) 22:15, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Malerooster. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Book of Leviticus.The discussion is about the topic Book of Leviticus. Thank you. - MrX 02:48, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, User:Malerooster, I like the edits you've been making! To reflect them, if you felt like getting involved in discussion as to why this page should stay, that would be great - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Barry_Pring

I feel the case is notable of inclusion as it is a famous true-crime story, which has gone on for 5 years, is still going on, and has impact across wide media and prominent figures.

Best, User:GrahamWPhillips GrahamWPhillips (talk) 12:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Malerooster (talk) 22:17, 15 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

for this. You're absolutely right. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 01:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. --Malerooster (talk) 02:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is not a warning, only notifying you for the log. Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed, Men's rights movement, is on article probation. A detailed description of the terms of article probation may be found at Talk:Men's rights movement/Article probation. Also note that the terms of some article probations extend to related articles and their associated talk pages.

The above is a templated message. Please accept it as a routine friendly notice, not as a claim that there is any problem with your edits. Thank you. -- v/r - TP 01:27, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up since I wasn't aware of this. --Malerooster (talk) 01:29, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Malerooster, thank you for a welcome. I like birds too:-) and birds like my garden:-) I even take care of a small group of house sparrows (Passer domesticus). Already for years. Unfortunately their amount is decreasing each year, despite my efforts to help them to survive early spring and winter. I do not know where they sleep, but they spend daytime in my garden searching for food, cleaning their feathers, singing, looking around and just having a rest. I must disappoint you, but I won't edit here - I have already hands full of work on other Wikipedia and as you have already noticed, my English is not good enough to contribute here. I hope you will enjoy a piece of pie. If not chickens (also birds:-) and their eggs it wouldn't be possible to make delicious pastries. Chickens are also friendly and cute animals. I loved to feed them as a child. It always astonish me how protective the roosters are for hens, and how devoted mothers hens are for their young chickens. Greetings. Seleucidis (talk) 11:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

• Who doesn't love pie? :) --Malerooster (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would appreciate your opinion on Talk:Halle Berry. I see this image better for the infobox and would like to reach a consensus, since another editor contends that this very bad image is better. Helliea (talk) 21:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. --Malerooster (talk) 02:24, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Décolletage , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

— DivaKnockouts 17:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

On it. --Malerooster (talk) 17:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who are you, anyway? Oh, and by the way, nobody likes you, XDDDD! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RoymeyahMonlin (talk • contribs) 13:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Malerooster. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Evan Mandery.The discussion is about the topic Evan Mandery. Thank you. Nick Levinson (talk) 16:26, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors, as you did on User talk: Jimbo Wales. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Stating that another editor is "lying" is a personal attack. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I said, Can't Prioryman please be blocked or banned already? How long does the community need to put up with his bull sh$t and personal attacks? Enough is enough already.[[1]]. I never said anything about "lying", but I should tone it down, and will do so. --Malerooster (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My apology. The refactoring of the talk page was too confused, and it appeared that you had made the accusation. It was User:Prioryman who had made the accusation of lying. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. --Malerooster (talk) 23:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Malerooster, I see you recently made some edits to the Howard Lederer article and wondered if you'd be interested in looking at revised draft of the article I've prepared? I'm looking for editors to review it for me as I have a conflict of interest (explained on the article's Talk). My aim with the draft is to bring the article up-to-date and address the few issues around Full Tilt. If you have the time to review the new draft and let me know what you think, please take a look at the draft in my user space and the full request on the Talk page where I've detailed the changes I've made. Thanks, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 19:27, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll check it out. To be honest, my writing skills aren't that good, so I stick more to MOS and small edits ect. The most important thing is that you use reliable sources for whatever material is involved and it is written in a neutral tone. Easy said than done of course, especially if there is any controversy involved and people are taking "sides". I believe I ended up on his page after coming from the BLP board which I like to monitor and help out with. Regards, --Malerooster (talk) 19:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At quick glance, your draft looks pretty good. I removed the category Jewish American Writer from his Dad's article since that really isn't covered or sourced. I would remove the Jewish descent category from Howard's bio unless that can be sourced as well. Again, I am not familiar with the subject or what went down with Full tilt poker, ect. Good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 19:43, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking out the draft! I've followed your suggestion and removed the category "Americans of Jewish descent": I wasn't sure about removing that before, but if you think it's not appropriate to include without a clear source I'm happy to take it out. Also, thanks for leaving a note over on the Talk page, I appreciate your help but totally understand if you're more comfortable with having others look at the draft, too. Hopefully some more editors will come by soon. Thanks again, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 20:37, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and yes, hopefully more people will comment, since that will help improve the article. --Malerooster (talk) 22:22, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I was wondering why you removed the home towns of Tim Urban, Katie Stevens, and Aaron Kelly from lead sections of their articles. This information is certainly relevant enough to be mentioned there, so I can't tell what you based your decision on. --Jpcase (talk) 01:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, It shouldn't go in the lead sentence/opening paragraph because where they are from is not really that notable or relevant, unless it is of course :). Maybe further into the bio unless where they are from is the reason for there notability. This is pretty "standard" per WP:MOSBIO, specifically WP:OPENPARAGRAPH. I hope this helps and of course I am open to others opinion on this. --Malerooster (talk) 02:56, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation. That seems reasonable. --Jpcase (talk) 23:35, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. --Malerooster (talk) 00:26, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to thank you for removing the tags for transclusion from the KTVU article... Will be greatly helpful and should consensus be reached to transcode the info will have to be re-typed... Why didn't you just wait for the dust to settle before your quick removal? Again, thanks for undoing work previously completed. Signed, not-not-a-big-fan-of-rework.TRL (talk) 03:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Creepys, sorry, I will try to fix it, but could you just do it? Forget it, i'll do it since you seem put out. --Malerooster (talk) 03:15, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I give up, can you pretty please fix my horrible mistake and slap me with a large trout??? Thanks!! --Malerooster (talk) 03:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for fixing... No issue... Sorry I responded a bit rough... Just don't understand the censorship that is occurring on the Asiana Airlines Flight 214 article. Was hoping that folks would decide to include. Another editor just tried to source the info straight into the article, and I think it is better in the entire context. Sorry.TRL (talk) 03:22, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I was struggling with the code so I nuked it all which was not the correct path. I wouldn't call it censorship, its more the old inclusionist vs deletionist crowd. Just because something has a citation, doesn't mean it has to be included, not saying that it might be worthy of inclusion, but hate the aurgument, its sourced so it should be included, that's all. --Malerooster (talk) 03:29, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Malerooster, When you put the code back in you left out two closing curly-braces and it made the code show up on the page. I'm not a coder but I plugged away and figured it out. Now, at least, the code is behind the curtain. Cheers. Checkingfax (talk) 03:59, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

sort of like the Wizard of Oz :), thanks, you saved me from a large trout slapping, carry on! --Malerooster (talk) 04:02, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've been working on the State of Florida vs. George Zimmerman article and I noticed that you dropped a tag on the external links section. Would it be possible for you to drop by the talk page and give us a rough idea of your concerns with this section, so we can take a look at it and address those concerns. I'd appreciate your input on this matter, so we can improve that section accordingly. Thanks in advance for your consideration concerning this matter.-- Isaidnoway (talk) 18:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

will do. --Malerooster (talk) 19:38, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You removed a sentence from the page of Helen Thomas. The sentence was from a source that was used just 2 sentences ahead of that one. Next time, please use a citation needed tag or mention it in the Talk Page unless it is something contentious. It takes much more time to add it back in and also add another reference which is really not needed if the source is already provided earlier and it's non-contentious. If the Wikipedia guidelines say differently, feel free to let me know, but that's always been my understanding. - Maximusveritas (talk) 02:56, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I actually do both, but yes, I could have tagged that one. It still reads a little awkwardly I think. Did she find a nun to help her or was it her actual sister, or was it her husbands sister? Removing unsourced material, even if it is not contentious is not against policy, but I will heed your advice. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 03:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re this edit: No, I didn't specifically intend to add the place of birth back, I was just trying to revert the WP:BLP violation, but neither did I realize havinig a place of birth in the lead was against some MOS section. Can you please point to the section specifically? --GRuban (talk) 15:51, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GRuban, no problem, and sorry if I was gruff in my edit summary, I didn't get enough sleep :). I would refer to WP:OPENPARA. Usually we just list dob (and death) after the entries name. Hope this helps, cheers. --Malerooster (talk) 16:15, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. At User talk:Jimbo Wales you wrote I ... have to admit that I find math related articles absolutely, err, what word I am I looking for, confusing?? ... I find articles that are "controlled" by so called "experts" in their fields to be very hard to grasp and understand because they are so over the top technical. Perhaps you would like to expand on that, possibly at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics? Spectral sequence (talk) 18:57, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Spectral sequence. Possibly. Again, I LOVE this project, and I am in academia. A lot of folks in academia look down their noses at Wikipedia, but I think that hopefully that is changing, as well it should. Maybe I was being too harsh, but something like the distance formula, which should be d=square root of (delta x² + delta y²) seems to get really really complicated. I feel like I'm a pretty smart guy until I read one of the math articles, and my head explodes :). I'll post something similar over there, but maybe its just this ol bird :) Cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 19:28, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Malerooster. I've just reviewed one of your edits at Jimmy Fallon, and it occurred to me that it might be a good idea to give you reviewer rights so that you can do that yourself next time. Would you be interested in that? Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 07:42, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr. Stradivarius, sure, if you think that is a good idea and would help out the project, that would be fine with me. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 11:48, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thanks for agreeing to help out. Could you confirm that you have read and understood the points listed at Wikipedia:Reviewing#Becoming a reviewer? After you've done that I'll flip the switch for you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:57, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I read it, and it looks good. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 14:18, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you are now a reviewer. Let me know if you have any questions about using your new abilities. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

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• Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 14:32, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I just tried it. I will have to study up a bit more and practice of course :). Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 02:15, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, a wiki world that is fair and NPOV. I knows its July, but I just made my xmas wish :). Good luck all. Funny, but not funny enough for a humor barnstar, so have a humor 'food' instead. Have a good one. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 10:05, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 22:58, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you check the reference that's being cited for his residence in Sedona, it's in Out (a gay magazine) and specifically names the guy he was in a relationship with at the time. The partner named in the article was the same name you removed from the infobox today, and his name used to be in the body text as well but appears to have been removed from there in 2012 sometime. That said, I don't know whether the name was removed by a vandal with homophobic motivations or by someone with private knowledge that Scarpelli and Belanger broke up sometime after the article was published in 2006, so I wouldn't readd Belanger's name now without a new source — but the existing one is still sufficient for describing and categorizing Scarpelli as being gay. Bearcat (talk) 16:22, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also just to clarify what happened last night in case there's any confusion, an existing category for Category:LGBT entertainers from the United States was deleted yesterday because it had originally been created by a banned user, but the deleting editor just stripped the old category instead of replacing it with the Category:LGBT people from the United States parent as they should have done, so what I did last night was to go back over their contribution history to readd the more general category to the articles in question.

I can't absolutely guarantee that every article that was in the "entertainers" category actually contained sufficient sourcing to support the category, because I was working with an automated tool with which I was only able to assess whether or not an article had been in Category:LGBT entertainers from the United States and not necessarily whether the category should have been there or not. So it's certainly possible that there may have been a few articles that weren't properly sourced enough that they ever should have been in LGBT categories in the first place — but it wasn't a new category in any case, but merely a functional restoration of categories that the article had already been in.

Accordingly, while I'd certainly be happy to assist if you come across any other cases where the category is problematic, any issues would need to be tracked back to whoever originally added LGBT-related categories in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 16:55, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I usually look in the body of the article to see if mention of sexuality is made. If it isn't, I would remove the category. If in this case, its in the "notes" and its reliable sourced, that's fine. Thank you for above explaination and yes, if I see other questionable categorization, I would appreciate your imput or others since I am very far from perfect. Cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 17:07, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. That is actually the right approach to take in many cases — especially because there are a few vandals who like to add people like Justin Bieber and Michael Jackson to LGBT people categories as a form of attack editing. When I come across an article that doesn't have satisfactory sourcing of a person's sexuality, though, if it's not obviously vandal-motivated then I do try to put in at least a quick Google search to see if there are sources out there for it before I make the judgement call to remove — but I have removed those categories from articles quite a few times myself, believe me. In a couple of cases, I've even stripped them from people who are gay but still can't be properly sourced as such — see Talk:John Baird (Canadian politician), for example. Also known as "the case that just wouldn't die"; read the archived talk page too if you want.) Bearcat (talk) 06:42, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, will do. --Malerooster (talk) 15:18, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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We have to be able to be fair balanced and independent, and that means cutting things down - and looking up corroborative sources - this means often getting images of past content of historical value through Wikimedia - thy have been hesitant to let through items in their personal photo albums online to which they exclusively have the rights - we can imagine covers of publications he was publisher and editor for.

We know of webpages that montages a selection of his publications and his historical events in Star Trek Fandom, fundraising and autism disability work - problem is to deconstruct the montage on the page or revert to original jpg, png and gif rather then adobe illustrator - we think that thanks to Dropbox we will have access to source code and archive of that website during the week. While he is giving us access to the images he or he and Karen are owners of, wikimedia seem notnt let them through. Damon Matthew Wise — Preceding unsigned comment added by AspieNo1 (talk • contribs) 04:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ah, ok. Is there a question in there or something I am suppose to respond to? The best way to improve this article, is to find as many reliable sources that make mention of the subject, and then post those links or references on the article's talk page. Good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 12:12, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi MR, I see you've several times removed some of the See also links in Chelsea Manning. The point of the list is to give readers a quick overview, at the end of the article, of the material Manning leaked. These are all already linked elsewhere in the article, but for the reader's benefit they're repeated at the end in one list. You've several times removed some of these, but left others, which gives a misleading impression. Can we discuss it here or on the talk page? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 20:21, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I only tried to remove articles that were already linked in the body of the article. If I missed some or any, it was an oversight not trying to be misleading. No, I don't really want to discuss it here or on the talk page. You have restored it multiple times now and I am not going to remove them or argue for their removal since I don't feel as strongly as you seem to. Regards, --Malerooster (talk) 00:34, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. As I said, the point is just to give readers a quick overview so that they don't have to search through the article to find the links. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:07, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit to Laura Dean does not have an edit summary. Please provide one before saving your changes to an article, as the summaries are quite helpful to people browsing an article's history. Thanks! SummerPhD (talk) 03:15, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I did leave an edit summary. --Malerooster (talk) 03:34, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you did. However, when deleting most of an article, "clean up" doesn't really give any indication as to why you are doing so. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:47, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

fair enough. --Malerooster (talk) 23:12, 17 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ... you indicated here that you were moving material out of the lede ... but I think you forgot to move it into the body somewhere. Thanks. --Epeefleche (talk) 08:30, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I moved it into the personal life section, but you might have already seen that. --Malerooster (talk) 00:17, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

John from Idegon (talk) 13:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I responded there, thanks, --Malerooster (talk) 02:04, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Malerooster. In all the fracas that occured a while ago, I never apologized to you for this edit summary. I wasn't trying to accuse you of vandalism in any way. I should have thought that edit summary out better and I'm sorry if it came across the wrong way. Ishdarian 06:26, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

No apology needed. Everybody but the instigator probably had good faith. --Malerooster (talk) 16:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

NE Meetup #4: January 18 at MIT Building 5

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Below the topmost template on BLPN is info regarding BLPN. It mentions that the noticeboard is for issues about biographies of living persons. Therefore you cannot have a consenus there since it is only a place to ask for advice. KahnJohn27 (talk) 01:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I guess we differ in our understanding of the BLP board then. I don't see where it says anything about NOT forming consensus, since that would seem to go against what the board was designed to do.--Malerooster (talk) 01:56, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is also my impression. Two kinds of pork (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't poke the banned editor on his page, in fact don't post there again. Thank you. Bishonen | talk 13:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]

It was actually serious advise to this user if he decides to return, which I suspect he will. Sorry if you have a problem with that but to bad. --Malerooster (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you fail to abide by Wikipedia:Banning policy#Conduct towards banned editors you yourself can be blocked. Leave him alone. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 05:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Serious advice? That reminds me a bit of MM's "thanks" trolling and his innocent protestations afterwards. I notice you returned to the page after MM had made it clear that he took your post as an attack. It's egregious to bait blocked users who're confined to their own page. I disagree with GWH that you "can" be blocked if you continue. If you post on MilesMoney's page again, anything at all other than some obligatory notification, I will block you. Bishonen | talk 12:02, 8 January 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Awesome. Does that make you feel better to threaten me? --Malerooster (talk) 12:31, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I reread your comments and I just read all the comments quickly and lumped you in with NK when I shouldn't have. Please accept my apologies. VViking_TalkEdits 23:12, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem Viewmont Viking. I am sure I've done the same thing more than once here :) --Malerooster (talk) 23:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, redundant one. If it's not too much trouble, could you tell me exactly where the discussion is that you're talking about in your last edit to Jack Chick? Thanks. (Kendrick7 and I both seem to want to know.) --71.178.50.222 (talk) 23:06, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. See talk:Jack_T._Chick#Hate_or_love_Jack_Chick.2C_he_is_obviously_anti-Catholic. This is the most recent. --Malerooster (talk) 01:24, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cowhen1966

Malerooster, could you please tell me what is unsourced on my article's page? Because I didn't quite see that you've made any changes. Regards!Cowhen1966 (talk) 18:32, 16 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cowhen1966, I copy edit a lot of bios. Which article is "my article" you are talking about? I assume you are the subject of the bio and not the owner? Thanks, --Malerooster (talk) 03:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you mean Cecil Jay Roberts (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). I removed wife and kids name. The names are trivial as well as unsourced. Maybe say "he is married with 4 children" or the like. --Malerooster (talk) 03:25, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanksCowhen1966 (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Women's History Edit-a-thons in Massachusetts this March - You are invited!

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Hello, I'm Kkj11210. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Schoolmarm without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! KJ ^{click here} 22:33, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks greatly for your great advice/statements in your 3 sentences. Resolved everything.

The other admins/editors/users should learn from you. Their 20+ long paragraphs that you swiftly resolved in 3 sentences. You should be a senior admin.

But maybe the others like inciting/provoking problems?

I could write to your supervisor if you'd like with a commendation.

Thank you again.

Everestrecords (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC) Everestrecords (talk) 03:01, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When you see a place of birth in the lede, feel free to move it, per our MOS. But if it is accurate and RS-supported, please don't delete RS-supported material. We should not delete material that is non-RS compliant, anymore than we would delete a word that is not spelled correctly. Both actions needlessly degrade the article. I would urge you to simply move it to a more appropriate place below the lede. Tx. --Epeefleche (talk) 03:07, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Epeefleche, per MOSBIO, birth place does not belong in the lede unless it relates to the person's notability, which I expect to be pretty rare. Usually the birthplace is in the info box or family or early life section. --Malerooster (talk) 03:44, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry. My fault. I've not explained myself properly.

I'm suggesting not that you keep it in the lede -- I agree with you as to what MOS says (even though that's IMHO mis-guided, as it is at odds with the weight of encyclopedias, and obviously when and where one is born logically belong together) ... but I am suggesting rather that instead of deleting the RS-supported fact from the bio, you move it, for example to -- as you indicated -- the early life section.

Otherwise that is like saying ... "MOS says we should not have mis-spellings" ... and then deleting all mis-spelled words ... rather than fixing them.

BTW -- with athletes and national politicians, for example, nationality is often especially relevant.--Epeefleche (talk) 04:13, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You explained ok. --Malerooster (talk) 01:01, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you continue to do this I will seek appropriate remedies. Please stop deleting RS-supported appropriate material that may be better placed in the body -- instead move it to what you think is an appropriate place. What you are doing is akin to saying -- there is a typo, which is wrong, so I will just delete the entire word. That is disruptive. Thanks. Epeefleche (talk) 03:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Epeefleche, I have actually been trying to do what you suggested but missed that one. In the future, would you mind just moving the birthplace into the body or info box if I miss it or if you see it in the birth place holder? Thanks, --Malerooster (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Adrianne Wadewitz edit-a-thons in Southern New England

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Upcoming events hosted by New England Wikimedians!

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[2] Actually, I wrote that based on, "... you are considered by many world class musicians as one of the most complete authority figures in right hand picking education analysis and development." --NeilN ^{talk to me} 03:53, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how I missed that. I will revert or copy edit accordingly. Sorry about that. --Malerooster (talk) 15:51, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello: I am still editing the page, and I am explaining all my edits. I will be finished shortly, but now I have to go back and see what you've done. It's simply much neater if editors would wait their turns. Thanks so much. Yours in Wikidom, GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:03, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ok.--Malerooster (talk) 14:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Jennifer Rubin (journalist) - Cwobeel (talk) 17:24, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to stop by and say "Thank You" for your efforts in removing the unnecessary wikilink brackets. I wasn't quite sure if it was necessary to wikilink every subject every time it was mentioned, or if it was only required once. Atsme☯^Consult 23:35, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your'e welcome. I would read WP:OVERLINK. --Malerooster (talk) 23:38, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ps, I really like the photos you have uploaded to commons, nice stuff :) --Malerooster (talk) 23:46, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't edit war, but could you provide a better explanation than "because it is"? Giving birth seems to be to be a notable event in someone's life, not because it is the child's birthdate, but because it is giving birth. 331dot (talk) 17:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I will take it to the talk page. We can discuss it there. Thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 18:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK... you seem to be an active editor - and it's years since I last contributed, so my new log-in is barred from comments. Maybe you'll be my messenger (I won't shoot you...)

If I look at the main protective edge article on human shields... "tactic encouraged by a Hamas spokesman.[dubious – discuss][165]"

There is a fuller (translated into English) interview with the Hamas Spokesman here... from the authoritative (even if they only concentrate on following arab media) Memri Organization:

www.memritv.org/clip/en/4340.htm

With a video clip like this (eg, "The policy of people confronting the Israeli warplanes with their bare chests... we in Hamas call upon our people to adopt this poilcy"), it would seem clear that there is nothing dubious about the claim that the tactic was indeed encouraged.

...please consider updating the main article (assuming you can)

Chalastra (talk) 18:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Chalastra, I usually don't edit Israel/Palestinian articles because they can be a pain and a real battle field, sorry for the pun, nothing funny about what is going on over there. I do more copy edit, manual of style, edits that people really shouldn't have a problem with type edits. I believe after a few days and some edits, you will be able to edit the article as well. Please be aware that you should only make one revision per day, unlike the usuall 3 that are allowed since the topic area is so contentious. Good luck, --Malerooster (talk) 21:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Appreciate that you'd rather not get your head bitten off!

Chalastra (talk) 15:30, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Iam actually pretty thick skinned, I rode the NYC subways for years, its more the frustration level of the constant edit warring and endless talk page disagreements. I give our "regular" editors a lot of credit for "working" these articles, that actually end up not too badly written considering how contentious and polarizing they are and can be. Again, keep cool and good luck if you do decide to stay and contribute at that article. --Malerooster (talk) 16:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Malerooster. Thank you for the kind welcome and for reviewing and editing the page about Joe G. N. Garcia. Your neutral input is greatly appreciated.

It's come to my attention that the same user edited another BLP with which I have a conflict of interest: Ann Weaver Hart. He or she has added very similar language (a section called "Controversy") that presents the same issues (violates the neutral point of view tenant, poor sourcing that violates the verifiability tenant, etc.). Would you be willing to review and edit that page as well?

Thanks again. HealthSciChris (talk) 16:57, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Headed there now....--Malerooster (talk) 16:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I truly appreciate your help with both of these. Communicating with you has been such a nice introduction to the Wikipedia community. I feel inspired to be more active and contribute to pages where I don't have a conflict of interest. --HealthSciChris (talk) 17:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome HealthSciChris and I would encourage you to contribute. Please be aware though, I am just one editor, and other editors might disagree with my actions and could revert what I have done. This project, for better or worse, works upon consensus and a lot of give and take. It has been my experience that its always best to get as many editors(unbiased if possible) involved when there is a dispute so cooler heads can prevail. Articles involving politics, contentious subjects, armed conflicts, ect are a pain in the butt, but overall, the project and most fair editors do want to do the "right" thing. "Wikipedia might not be the best at what they do, but they are the only ones who do what they do" (Stolen from Bill Graham (promoter) describing the Grateful Dead) Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 18:06, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the new editor readded the material and this pattern could continue. Welcome to the dark side of this project :) Again, the more neutral editors involved the better, and time will tell.....--Malerooster (talk) 19:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your diligence and encouragement to participate. Is it appropriate for me to add notes to the articles' talk pages as long as I disclose my COI? Any other way for me to encourage more neutral editors to participate in the discussion? Thanks again. HealthSciChris (talk) 22:17, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the talkpage is the perfect place to discuss how to improve the article and give your input concerning that, and is encouraged even if you have a disclosed COI. Also, please read about conflict of interest. I would encourage that as well since you obviously know more about the "material" than I do. Wikipedia has a TON of policies and guidelines, but at the end of the day, consensus, seems to be really important. When editors have "problems" or concerns with biographies, they can report those concerns to the BLP board. I enjoy working on articles that get reported there and bios brought there usually get good attention from neutral editors who also "patrol" that board. I see that you actually already posted there. If you need administrative help, the ANI board is the place to request intervention. --Malerooster (talk) 00:51, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

HealthSciChris & Malerooster. Everything added is sourced and tons of sources are coming out every day. Vice News, CNN, Daily Beast . . . Joe Skip Garcia and Dr Ann Hart are at the epicenter of National news related to marijuana for vets suffering from PTSD, the suppression of science, and the illegal termination of a female dr who had approval from the FDA for her study. If you have an objection to the cited news then spill it, this is exactly what wikipedia if for. I can bring as many people to back up the edit as need be. We see the IP address that first undid the edit was nothing more than an IP traceable to the University of Arizona. By your name you work at the University of Arizona HealthSciChris. This is a blatant attempt at censorship. Malerooster, I appreciate your point of view. If you tell me what your objections are, I will be more than happy to comply. Remember, be careful what you wish for HealthSciChris as more news is coming out every day regarding the disgusting behavior of Garcia & Hart. Malerooster, also how does one get in touch with "editors" and do you work for Wikipedia? Thanks in advance for your hep. All I would ask, if national news if fair game for these pages where these persons are mentioned by name, then please don't let HealthSciChris or any other UofA/Conservative Activist whitewash the facts. Thanks! PathfinderE4

@PathfinderE4, please sign your posts using 4 of the ~ symbols. Its ok being new here, but please assume good faith when talking about other edits and please try not to use words like censorship or describe people's behavior as disgusting behavior, ect. Just as HealthSciChris has a conflict of interest, I could say the same about you since you have made your passion about this subject quite clear. Again, I have ZERO interest in the subject matter, and certainly do NOT work for Wikipedia, I am an unpaid volunteer like most folks here, its a hobby and its more about presenting material, especially when it comes to bios, in a certain way. Also, we are now engaged in an edit war which is never a good thing, and can result in editors being blocked. The exception to being blocked is if material is removed which doesn't comply with BLP policies which I think I am doing. I am just one editor. Have you been to the Biographies of living persons notice board? This matter is being discussed there and its the best place for this discussion rather than my talk page, just saying. --Malerooster (talk) 03:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ps, I see that the articles have been reverted by another editor, and please don't say I know him, or he is my friend, ect, its the way it works around here, for better or worse. I SUCK at writing "material", I am a math guy by trade, I do a lot of little shit and stuff that usually isn't to contentious. I really like biographies, they are interesting. I "monitor" the BLP board for BLATANT violations of our BLP policies and give my humble opinion, I add nationality to the lead sentence of bios if it hasn't already been done, crap like that. Now, I am sure there are other folks who could write something that complies with policy and might even satisfy both you and HealthSciChris, that would be the ultimate, but I am certainly not the guy. --Malerooster (talk) 04:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

pss, guys, please go to Kimberly Yee. I edited that article per the citations provided. What do you think? --Malerooster (talk) 04:17, 17 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Malerooster. Thank you for the welcome to Wikipedia. I been around for a bit, however, and registered the new user name to claim it because I'm planning on requesting my original username (UOJComm) be changed. I know there is a formal process for requesting a change of username so that my previous edits will show up with my new username. I'm just wondering if you have any advice / suggestions on what can make that progress smooth and quick. Thanks again! Allsetcobrajet (talk) 18:58, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Allsetcobrajet, I actually don't, sorry. I would begin the formal process and maybe ask at the help desk or the WP:Teahouse? I am sure they know a ton more than me and seem like helpful, welcoming places. Cheers and good luck. --Malerooster (talk) 20:13, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MR, Thanks for the welcome note. Actually, I do not plan to stick around, and I plan to end my (tiny, insignificant) ongoing donations to Wikipedia based on my experiences with the posts of late. I find the ability to doctor for personal objectives someone's biographical information, under the purported auspices of Wiki guidelines, is too easily manipulated and takes constant vigilant supervision. I'm a little surprised with all the contributors who monitor pages that there is no one monitoring the subjective expressions/repression/omissions of the monitors. There is more work to do on my posts to make them better conform to the guidelines, and I will happily continue to do that. Perhaps other contributors will also tweak this or that. But to shut down the expansion of the information--which happens to be most volatile and inflammatory at this particular moment in history--seems at odds with the mission of Wikipedia. How naive of me. There is a larger conversation, perhaps, to be had on the "proper" uses of Wikipedia, but at core, I think that truth is never a bad idea. I thought, until recently, that Wikipedia's primary mission, primary to all other values, was to present truthful, clear, rational (not hysterical), informative material about the subject matter. I had no idea that truthful information takes a back seat to the desires of vigilant "contributors" who use rules to remove information they do not like, to fulfill their own objectives. I'm pretty disillusioned, M.R.

Cheers mate, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roozee (talk • contribs) 00:10, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One man's truth, is another man's lie. Seriously, Wikipedia is what it is. It certainly has faults and warts, but, err, but, uggh, its hard to defend. The project is sort of like politics to a degree. If you can't beat em, join em, and can be VERY frustrating at times, when you know you are "right" and maybe even have the "truth" on your side, but consensus goes against you. Maybe try to work on some articles that you have zero interest or feelings about and see how that works? Get the hang of things. Or maybe try to make "smaller" changes? I don't know. I try to make edits that I feel nobody in their right mind could ever revert for ANY reason, but guess what, they get reverted. I try to do this for fun and not get to wrap up in it. Cheers and good luck if you do decide to stay. --Malerooster (talk) 00:50, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what you are attempting to do to the Paul Conrad article, but the material you claimed is unsourced is fully sourced in the article. You are welcome to take your concerns to the talk page. Viriditas (talk) 03:32, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You've been reverted and asked to take your concerns to the talk page. Is there a good reason I don't see you on the talk page making a case for your edits? I'm guessing that the reason is because you are deliberately stalking me, and attempting to destabilize the article. Viriditas (talk) 03:39, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am there now. Also, please stop the personal attacks. --Malerooster (talk) 03:43, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You're there making bizarre statements that have no basis in reality and continuing to make disruptive edits that violate our policies. This edit pretty much disqualifies you from editing this article. Again, this is the third article you've followed me to in order to disrupt. If this continues, I will bring it to ANI. Your comments and edits show that you have no interest in improving this topic. Therefore, I am formally warning you to stay away from any article I edit from now on. If you persist, I will pursue sanctions. Good day. Viriditas (talk) 05:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop with the personal attacks, they are not appreciated. I am trying to help improve the article in question, please use the talk page if you have a problem with any of my edits, thank you, --Malerooster (talk) 15:47, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The only personal attacks are from you, and you've been repeatedly asked to stop making them. Your "help" is neither appreciated nor needed as there is already a nominator working on the review in good faith in collaboration with me. I don't need to use the tal page to discuss your personal attacks and bad edits. You need to immediately leave this article and take it off of your watchlist. The next warning you receive will be an ANI notice. Good day. Viriditas (talk) 02:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The George M. Church article talk page, closing discussion, and follow it to the Noticeboard item that has been posted as a result of the irreconcilable difference that has arisen. It is a POV, COI, OR, VER set of issues, relating to a husband-wife faculty team that has generated about 70% of the content of the husband's article here, and about 100% of its tone and momentum. Cheers, comment at the Noticeboard if time permits. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 03:30, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. --Malerooster (talk) 15:30, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No problem and thank you. I know that volume is never an indicator of quality, but am I always impressed by folks like yourself who have like 80,000+(?) edits to the project. For all the current, and past, drama about civility, paid editing, sexism, yadda, yadda, the project really is an amazing place. I can't prove it, of course, but I think the ratio is 90:10 "good", its just that "bad" gets more attention and is "funner" or more interesting to watch and be involved with, sort of like rubber necking when one sees a car accident or train wreck. Cheers!! --Malerooster (talk) 14:01, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, 90:10, tell Alan that. The last time he left I asked if I should add him to our sad list. (Link under "Precious and missed") - Every good one gone makes it harder to stay. I took the liberty to stay: red category on my user page, I was tempted to go a few times but don't want to do it because of other people ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe its some type of "burnout" or "this place has changed" or "good ol days" syndrome. I am in the "teaching" business, late life change, and I can't tell you how many "older" teachers I talk to who are absolutely miserable and hate their students compared to "new" teachers who have so much passion and love for their profession and kids. Who knows? certainly not me :) --Malerooster (talk) 14:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to learn from him, admiring this and that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am a math guy, so I really struggle with insightful articulation here. I always enjoy reading other editors posts who so elegantly and thoughtfully say what I am thinking but I find so difficult to write. --Malerooster (talk) 18:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A year ago, you were the 933rd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:38, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cool and thank you :) --Malerooster (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Five years ago, you were recipient no. 933 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Viriditas (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I sympathise with your removal of the link/section on the Indhu Rubasingham page. Rightly or wrongly I added it as there is currently a thrice daily edit on both 'her' page and the Tricycle Theatre page concerning an 'unfolding' controversy. By adding the link I hoped that the edits might at least be confined to the theatre's page until such time as the story has more fully evolved. All the edits are from 'anon' editors and all are to a greater or lesser extent imflammatory and partisan in their approach. In the situation I'm not sure whether my or your approach is correct. ps what other kind of rooster is there ? Pincrete (talk) 21:10, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Correct" is a very hard thing to figure out in this project :). I usually err on the side of removing "material", since it can always be added once consensus forms, especially if it involves a BLP. I always like to wait and see how these things play out since we are not the news and there isn't a rush, even though some people like to. The more people involved the better, and no problem either way. Yeah, my son thinks my handle is hilarious :) Cheers. --Malerooster (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree wholly with your overall assessment (and your son!), the purely practical problem is that contentious edits on these two pages are, at the moment, a twice daily event (all from anon IPs, mostly different). Do you happen to know HOW to put a block (for a few weeks, on all anon editors seems appropriate)? Whilst a few 'admin-ny' editors are obviously watching the page, I seem to be the only one actually involved with it at present.Pincrete (talk) 14:01, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the IPs don't use the talk page and aren't interesting in forming consensus, and the consensus is for NOT including material, there are multiple "report boards" where syops will eventually jump in. Those boards are 3rr, page protection, ANI. I can take another look and also link to these boards later. I need to fold laundry and deal with life, but will be back later. I wouldn't get too worked up and certainly do not edit war, ie revert more than 3 times in 24 hours, you could get blocked and its not worth it. I find that if folks are "watching", they will jump in and assist. Keep using the talk page and explain your reasoning. Good luck and cheers! --Malerooster (talk) 14:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately 'consensus' at the moment is me & thee! Yes some editors have 'jumped in', including yourself to clean up blatant PoV, so I haven't had to over-revert. Any assistance that you or Wikipedia can offer will prevent me wasting time on this. 'Dealing with life?', I think I remember what that is! Ta!Pincrete (talk) 15:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

MANY THANKS, your info above led me to the right place to request semi-protection of both pages (which I have now done). Hope you got the laundry folded!Pincrete (talk) 17:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a notification to inform you that a discussion has been added to the dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a dispute you may be involved in. Muffinator (talk) 20:09, 7 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Direct link: Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Retrospective_diagnoses_of_autism

I've forgotten where I read it specifically, but the only reason this store is notable is its stauts as largest furniture store in the United States. Every source in existence has some variation of this theme. Once the store achieved the status 20 years ago, I didn't think it was necessry to source it again, but someone could have broken their record. I don't think so. I can't access my sources right now, but two I can access refer to "largest furniture showroom in the world." That's even better but I'm not sure it says the same thing. In any case, it's the largest store in the U.S. where a person can walk in and look at furniture and buy it.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:11, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ok.--Malerooster (talk) 17:12, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have any thoughts on what the best thing to do is? I'll look at some of the sources Thursday. I could have yesterday but forgot.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 15:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing to strong. I would want to have a citation that says specifally that it is the largest furniture store in the United States. Are we talking by sales volume, showroom floor size, # of employees, ect?? The safest and simplilest is just to say "one of the....", but that is lazy I guess. I have serious real life things that need to be tended too over the next two/three weeks so I am going on a wikibreak :) Cheers, --Malerooster (talk) 21:40, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks. I'll look tomorrow. I really should have looked for some specifics, but the sources don't usually get that detailed.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:42, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I found something. Wouldn't you know it. It's an article that criticizes the store. Plus it's eight years old. But criticism is required if it's sourced, and I went ahead and included this criticism in a section devoted to that.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for requesting closure. The basic problem appears to be well-meaning but very bad advice at WP:DRN. The issues were taken to WP:DRN, where the volunteer editor said that the issues involved both content and conduct (which was correct), and said to take the content issues to requests for mediation and the conduct issues to WP:ANI. The latter was well-meaning but bad advice, because, although there are conduct issues, none of the contentious editors have put together diffs or made a specific case. (Also, it isn't, in my opinion, a good case for formal mediation, but that is another question.) There are conduct issues, but they aren't formulated for admin action yet. (I don't think that they will ever be dealt with at WP:ANI anyway. I have the feeling that the case will eventually go to arbitration, but that is my opinion.) Robert McClenon (talk) 15:13, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the ANI "discussion" was 99% content related and debate back and forth. IF there are conduct issues, and I am certainly not saying there aren't any, they need to be spelled out clearly with differences included, not an easy task. Cheers and good luck, --Malerooster (talk) 17:47, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As an editor who has recently edited Joni Ernst, you are invited to comment on this RFC. Your participation will be appreciated. - Cwobeel (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you revert my changes on the talk page? I wa restoring another editors comments that were inappropriately removed.Two kinds of pork^Makin'_Bacon 00:10, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One, you didn't explain your revision. Two, the other editor removed comments that were he felt were using the talk page as a forum. --Malerooster (talk) 02:11, 14 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why you're edit warring to remove that particular comment from the talk page, especially since it relates to a conversation that doesn't seem to be ongoing. Do you think it's more disruptive to leave the comment or to continue to remove it? I'd remind you that "[c]autiously editing or removing another editor's comments is sometimes allowed, but normally you should stop if there is any objection." Dyrnych (talk) 20:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)