Template talk:WikiProject Lists

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This template is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles

Currently, this project uses the Version 1.0 Editorial Team bot for article statistics. This requires our Project Template to have a Full Quality scale. However, it is appropriate for this Project to limit the classes used and monitored by the Assessment Department. Therefore it has become necessary for the project create a Custom mask for Quality class. The Custom mask for WikiProject Lists limits class to FL, List, and Stub for articles, uses all appropriate predefined Quality classes for articles in the Wikipedia:Namespace, updates BLANK classes to the List class, and automatically changes incorrect Quality class codes. Prapsnot (talk) 23:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In 2007 User:BetacommandBot began creating Categories for this project using the word List. The unfortunate result is that our Assessment_Cat code does not say |ASSESSMENT_CAT= WikiProject Lists articles as in other projects. Instead it says |ASSESSMENT_CAT= List articles. So our assessment page follows suit and is titled List/Assessment as a work-around. This should be fixed in the future, and Categories renamed and redirected; but too tired now. Prapsnot (talk) 08:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the |auto=yes parameter required for this banner? All the parameter actually does is display a message if an article is rated Stub-Class to say that it has been assessed by a bot; this doesn't seem particuarly useful or relevant in the context of this banner.

Also, any thoughts on using SL-Class (i.e. "Stub List") as opposed to Stub-Class? This little-known assessment grade is used by at least one other project and would seem to be rather apt for this project. PC78 (talk) 12:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Another thing: the assessment page for this project states, "This Project includes Image, Template, Portal, Disambiguation, Category and Project classes when appropriate". With the exception of Disambig-Class, this is not true. There is no support for these other classes in the banner's custom mask, so they all default to List-Class. PC78 (talk) 12:45, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This last point has been resolved. PC78 (talk) 15:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The |auto= parameter is invoking Template:Auto, which is a redirect to Template:WikiProject Automobiles. However, it could be that it only shows while the page is being previewed. It appears that Template:WikiProject Animation had a similar problem. Senator2029 “let's talk” 17:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I need know how to fix it and what it means Keneatha Erb (talk) 10:07, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Keneatha Erb: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the template {{WikiProject Lists}}. From what you have written, I suggest that you try the help desk. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:06, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't the default |class= value be 'List'? After all, this tag is for list articles. Lordtobi (✉) 13:28, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No; as with all other WikiProject banners, the default is (and should be) Unassessed. Valid values that are not autodetected are: stub; fl; list; dab. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:00, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please fix the dablink to Wikipedia:Lists? Thanks, BEANS X2 (talk) 22:54, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@BEANS X2: I have made a formal request below. The {{Edit template-protected}} template is needed to get a template-editor's attention, and detailed instructions of what to change the wording to are needed so he can make the change quickly. The sandbox and testcase weren't strictly speaking necessary, but they are frequently helpful when asking for an edit to a protected template. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:20, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for letting me know. It seems to have been fixed now, thanks! >>BEANS X2t 12:15, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Please change Wikipedia:Lists to Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists in the |MAIN_TEXT= line of {{WPBannerMeta}}). I have already made the change in the sandbox (diff). I've also created generic test cases so you can see the difference. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:21, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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To improve categorization of lists into categories of the WikiProject Lists please apply Special:Diff/943982596/958638472. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:45, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. Let me show you the documentation for that parameter:

• listas – This parameter, which is the equivalent of the DEFAULTSORT sortkey that should be placed on all biographical articles, is a sortkey for the article talk page (e.g. for List of Formula One circuits, use |listas=Formula One circuits, List of so that the talk page will show up in the F's and not the L's of the various assessment and administrative categories). This is important because it is one source used by those who set DEFAULTSORT on the article; consider also setting the DEFAULTSORT for the article when setting this parameter. For more information about this, please see Wikipedia:Categorization of people § Ordering names in a category.
  If the article is using {{WikiProject banner shell}} then it is preferable to add |listas= to that template instead of a project banner template. Putting the parameter on more than one template is not required.

Notice the last sentence in particular. If there are no other WikiProject banners on a page, it's fine; if there are other WikiProject banners on a page but none of them set |listas=, it's also fine; but if there is at least one that sets |listas= there may be a conflict, giving an error message like Warning: Default sort key "Formula One circuits" overrides earlier default sort key "Formula One circuits, List of". and the page will be put in to Category:Pages with DEFAULTSORT conflicts. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:27, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redrose64, after looking at source code of Template:WPBannerMeta/core it is obvious that these approach won't work, since talk pages might have several WikiProject banners on them, and adding automatic {{{listas|}}} to one of them would cause issues. But it is a bit surprising that {{{listas|}}} is not passed to internals (like Template:WPBannerMeta/qualityscale) alongside the category parameters *_CAT to enable sorting on a category-by-category basis. —⁠andrybak (talk) 09:14, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No, it doesn't need to be in the individual cats, because it's used to set up a {{DEFAULTSORT:}} which applies to all categories (see WP:SORTKEY item 11). If you have more than one on the same page, all must have the same value otherwise you get the error message that I described. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all, I was wondering if there was an error/bug with this template's corroboration with template:WPBS, the |class= parameter on the WPBS doesn't indicate the class within the WP List template. I'm not sure if the parameter is classified per the respective category but I can't find an explanation as to why this happens to be the case, I'm certain I've used the WPBS with this template many times and its worked fine. See this example below (|cat=no).

This template does not require a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Lists Top‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles Top This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale.

Now when you open the [show] icon next to the WP list template, it says that the article is classed as a template (this is on the template talk page so makes sense), but because it is in the WPBS, the |class parameter should override this auto-cat as class it as a list. If this were to be used on a regular article talk page, the List template will have ??? as if it weren't classed yet, but the WPBS says otherwise. This is shown in the WPBS this article's talk page. When you open the WP list template, it says that the article has not yet received a rating, when it has clearly been rated in the WPBS. I'd really appreciate it if someone could clarify why this is the case, is something wrong? Am I doing something wrong? Cheers Idiosincrático (talk) 15:48, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I also ran into this on another talk page but looking at the docs of this template, it appears to be intended: "This project is using a non-standard scale and has opted out of project-independent quality assessments." - so it appears it wouldn't inherit the class from the banner shell and one needs to explicitly specify the |class. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lists#Assessment. Simeon (talk) 19:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This causes an issue of you have the very rare case like 2001, which is technically in WikiProject Lists but due to being an article it was promoted to GA status. Lists doesn't assess anything as GA/GL, so it is stuck as 'unassessed'. Reconrabbit 03:51, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]