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In an effort to stave off being stalked and harassed, I have since 2006 used the sockpuppets Roxithro (talk), Raasgat (talk), Rotational (talk), Androstachys (talk) and Tekwani (talk). I am returning to my original account, renouncing all others, and hope to work in a collegiate spirit with my fellow editors. Paul venter (talk) 05:49, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Paul venter, I just thought I'd let you know that I saw your article Frederick Timpson I'Ons in the New Articles list-- You did an excellent job uploading an image to the article.However, I think the article seems to contain a few errors: the references in the article do not follow Wikipedia guidelines. There is a tutorial on formatting citations at Wikipedia:Referencing.It would be great if you could also upload a picture for the related article Makana (prophet).

Kind regards and happy editing! Jipinghe (talk) 19:20, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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"George Bush referenced the Petrarchan form in his 2004 State of the Union Address." Really? Citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.198.136.240 (talk) 16:34, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello Paul! I've been following your edits at Binomial nomenclature. I'm hoping you are adding inline sources to support your individual points, so they can stay in the article. I was waiting until you finish your Hieronymus Harder article to make any changes (soon?), but in the Binomial article the Hieronymus info belongs in the history section (if it is sourced) instead of the lead. I'm very curious what your sources say about 1) whether he always used a binomial or only partially, and 2) how much, if any, he talked about a system of binomial nomenclature as proposed for use by everyone. Thanks for the info! --Tom Hulse (talk) 10:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tom, No, I don't have any sources in which Harder made notes specifically about Binomial nomenclature, but only index pages from his Herbarium vivum which clearly display his use of the idea. From the image I posted at Binomial nomenclature it should be apparent that he didn't always stick to a binomial style. "The introduction of this system of naming species is credited to Linnaeus" in the lead should certainly be balanced by a reference to earlier use of the idea by Harder and the Bauhins and others, lest a reader get the notion that Linnaeus got the idea straight from heaven rather than the tweaking of an idea that goes back much further in time! Go well Paul venter (talk) 13:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I sure do understand wanting to get the word out more about this great guy. His work is amazing, and I'm really enjoying the info you are adding at the other two articles, but the trouble here is that Wikipedia is about what the sources say, not about what may be true. Even if there were sources, we would still have to be careful not to give him credit for more than should apply. For instance, he did not publish a description of how to use a system of binomial nomenclature, nor is he even using a system of binomial nomenclature in his herbarium vivum, just a mix of different-sized names (although many are inividually binomials). We don't have any evidence that Linnaeus was influenced by him (we do have evidence that L. was influence by the Bauhins), nor that anyone was. Using a mixed system including binomials was not new or unique at his time, certainly less notable than the Bauhins who themselves only merit a minor mention in the History section. So I'm sorry I'll have to drastically reduce your addition to just a part of a sentence in the History section, and remove the image. They're just not that relevant to the article, I hope you understand. Best regards. --Tom Hulse (talk) 08:49, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Paul I removed the unsourced material per WP:NOR & WP:RS. In the History section, the article currently says "The Bauhins... took some important steps towards the binomial system", and I would really like add info here about Hieronymus Harder, but I can't without a reliable source, so please let me know if you find anything. --Tom Hulse (talk) 09:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've been extremely careful about my additions and did not make any unwarranted assumptions about Harder's contribution to binomial nomenclature - I simply posted the image which clearly shows that Harder made use of the binomial idea. His early use of binomialism is extremely relevant to the article, so that I am reverting the edit and hope that a wider group of editors may become involved in the discussion before deciding that Harder is really irrelevant. cheers Paul venter (talk) 09:16, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion moved by Paul to Talk:Binomial nomenclature#Hieronymus Harder --Tom Hulse (talk) 10:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Paul. Thanks for your note regarding your article "Download sites". I took a look at it and as it was, I agree the deletion was appropriate. However, I can see that it could be useful to have a page listing relevant databases, sites, journals etc, so I have restored it and moved into your userspace here: User:Paul venter/Download sites. I don't recommend re-posting it into the article space as it will most likely be deleted again, but you can keep it in your userspace. You could also talk to the botany wikiproject about making it into a resources subpage of the wikiproject or possibly even writing a subject area database list, such as: List of biodiversity databases, List of neuroscience databases, List of online databases and List of academic databases and search engines. Unfortunately I don't know enough about botany or these websites to know if developing your page into such a list would be appropriate or not so I cannot advise you either way but it's just an idea that you might consider discussing with other editors more knowledgeable about this area and these databases. I noticed that someone has also started collection some links to botanical databases and catalogs here: Outline_of_botany#External_links. Also, in future, if you are starting a new article which you haven't finished and are still actively working on, you would be best to start the article in a sub-page of your userspace (for example, User:Paul venter/Drafts). We give people a lot of leeway with userspace drafts so you would generally be free to work on it in your own time and without having to worry about people interfering with it or nominating it for speedy deletion before you have even finished. Then once you have finished working on it, simply move the page to the main article space. Hope this helps. Cheers, Sarah 06:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PS Just FYI, I found the name "Download sites" confusing and it really didn't seem to be an appropriate name for an article. Please see the policy on article titles for more information about article titles, but I would suggest that an article listing botanical databases be named something like "List of botany databases". Sarah 06:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Why did you remove the taxobox here? jonkerz ♠talk 05:29, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Did I? I was busy editing the article and must have inadvertently overwritten your contribution. Why did you ignore the "in use" template? Paul venter (talk) 05:33, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, just an edit conflict. The page was last edited 10 hours before I added the taxobox. jonkerz ♠talk 05:38, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for creating the William Brown Macdougall Wiki page. Incidentally, Macdougall has no capital 'D" in his name, although the information you have provided is otherwise quite accurate. I wondered where you sourced it from as some of it is not widely documented ?

We have more information regarding WBM if you are interested in adding it. Alternatively, we could add it ourselves although not exactly familiar with how to go about it.

Kind regards G. Jones — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.24.160 (talk) 15:52, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I initially wrote more-or-less what you changed the template to say, but it's not correct. Search [1] for the surname "van Wyk" for example. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Too true - I must have suffered from a mental aberration (momentary I hope). Thanks for picking it up! I notice the author abbreviations are not consistent in their treatment of, for example, "de Winter' and "de Wit", using "De" and "de" in the abbreviations. Is there a reason other than "oops"? Paul venter (talk) 10:38, 15 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Paul, Thanks for your contributions to articles on Joseph Storr Lister, Comte Médéric de Vasselot de Régné and others! Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 17:31, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why hello David! Most kind of you to notice and comment - your interest in matters forestry is quite unusual. Mine stems from having worked for 5 years for forestry when I was young. Regards Paul venter (talk) 22:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You're most welcome, Paul. I teach at a forestry school and, while I'm not a forester, am interested in forest(ry) policy and history. I was impressed by South Africa's extensive Pinus radiata plantations when I visited several years ago (did not get to the Cape, though)... Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 01:42, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, of course. This is all dreadfully familiar - your drumming up support from your acolytes, branding your prejudice as consensual and just generally carrying on with your stock-in-trade bullying. When will you ever learn to step back along with your self-satisfied interpretation of the MoS, and leave the constant nit-picking to others? Paul venter (talk) 06:12, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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If I inadvertently left that fragment, why am I getting this entirely gratuitous sermon about stuff I already know? Paul venter (talk) 14:05, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was just wondering if you had a more specific source for the information you added to the article fairy circle (Africa), as in the title of the actual paper that references the information added. Angryapathy (talk) 13:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paul Venter, Before I saw your article on Helena Scott I created an entry on Helena and Harriet Scott. Now there are two similar articles which I think should be one article as they are always referred to together as the Scott sisters. This is why I entitled my version Helena and Harriet Scott. I therefore suggest we move the content you created along with the images and categories into the article with the jointly named title. Do you think this is a good solution? Elara7 (talk) 04:00, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elara, My first reaction would be to leave both articles as is with a 'See also' note and/or piping in the lead paragraph. Some rabid editor is bound to object in order to do some grandstanding, but I can see no compelling reason to merge the articles. The other way to go may be to do a separate article on Harriet Scott, something which shouldn't be too difficult as the groundwork has already been done. Anyway, whatever we decide is bound to be set aside by a bunch of editors who would claim to know better and also claim to have consensus, so that in the end it doesn't matter. Cheers Paul venter (talk) 06:51, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Paul venter, Thanks for your suggestion. I will go ahead and do a separate article on Harriet, which as you said should be easier than merging the two articles. Thanks Elara7 (talk) 23:15, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Paul, I've initiated a peer review request for the List of historic schools of forestry article, and would appreciate your input on ways that it can be improved. Ultimately, I would like to nominate it for Featured List status. Please add any comments or suggestions at this link. Thank you & Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 13:53, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David, Useful list indeed. After a cursory inspection (I'll return later) the only change I made was lifting the size restriction on the image of Heinrich von Cotta. Regards Paul venter (talk) 14:20, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Paul. I look forward to learning of any further suggestions for improving the list that you might have. Kind regards, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 10:08, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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