User talk:Yoninah

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Hope all is well

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Yoninah, just a quick note wishing you well and safe, and that we see you again in the very near future. All best, BlueMoonset (talk) 02:01, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are AWOL

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Keeping a Light On For You
Don't know what's going on here, but three weeks is a long time to be AWOL (absent without leave). Hope you are well. We all look forward to your return. In the meantime, keeping a light on for you. — Maile (talk) 21:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
We miss you, Yoninah. —valereee (talk) 23:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, you are sorely missed. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:38, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
+1 sending positive vibes. TJMSmith (talk) 01:26, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
One more. I hope all is well. Cbl62 (talk) 09:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And another. Hope you are well. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Same here. Hope you're ok and will be back soon. —  JGHowes  talk 01:00, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Me too ... your reviewer's eye is valuable to all of us. Daniel Case (talk) 18:41, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
And me. You are missed. Take care, and come back soon, I hope. Storye book (talk) 20:31, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Civility Barnstar
You've been a great mentor to me in Wikipedia and taught me civility in hard times through your actions. Please, come back....😭 Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 17:41, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking of you

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I made a hook thinking of you, DYK?

Did you know ...

... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?

(17 February 2021)

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary

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Precious
Nine years!

We miss you! I worked on Psalm 25, thinking of you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I was afraid. Your contributions to the project were a blessing, for readers and us editors. Psalm 84. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:01, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just found Touching the World of Angels. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promised articles in memory: Psalm 148 (Bernstein) (recorded in an album A Jewish Legacy), more psalms (here is what's missing), improve Chichester Psalms. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:51, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you for all the help, support and guidance you provided here — Amkgp 💬 04:34, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In Memory

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Beloved contributor
Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/2021#User:Yoninah Truly a very sad time for the DYK community, as well as over at Commons. She was in many ways a teacher to me, and we went back and forth on a few issues. But I always knew that her overall purpose was what she believed editorially correct for Wikipedia, and for grammar in general. I had really begun to appreciate her as a solid rock on Wikipedia editing. Losing her not only left a pretty noticeable gap at DYK, but her death also makes me feel like a cherished friend has vanished. — Maile (talk) 12:30, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Content at Deceased Wikipedians has been deleted for privacy reasons. Nevertheless, it does appear the deceased was Yoninah. Not only the name being a fit, and the general editing quality of both. Our Yoninah last edited on January 18, and the one above apparently died around the same week. — Maile (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Die Fliege
In her memory ...

Proposed DYK queue for Yoninah

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  • Honoring Yoninah's memory: I was wondering if there was something that we could do to honor Yoninah's memory. She was one of the kindest people around here. One thought was to see if any of you knew her areas of interests well enough to create a prep / queue dedicated to her interests (without straying too far from any rules, written or unwritten, that we might have around set composition). Just a thought. RIP Yoninah. Ktin (talk) 21:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I love that idea and am fully willing to help write eligible articles, though I don't know what the topic would be. Feels like it would be a beautiful tribute. Eddie891 Talk Work 21:57, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Breslov Research Institute, which she wrote. According to the original (redacted) post about her death, she was a long-time editor there. According to her Commons:Yoninah, she was a resident of Jerusalem. She also was a fan of what she called the "Golden Era" of movies, the actors and films in the pre-television era. I think she was a huge fan of Sunset Boulevard (film) and would have liked to have seen a lead hook on it - we heavily discussed it - but it would first have to go through GAC to be eligible here. That's all I can think of. — Maile (talk) 22:17, 17 March 2021 (UTC) And also just thinking, Yoninah was not someone who could be pigeon-holed into any limited interest. She's the one who gave DYK the hilarious Rinse the Blood Off My Toga - she really did like Wayne and Shuster's humor. — Maile (talk) 00:45, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It is with deep regret that the DYK and Wikipedia communities mourn the passing User:Yoninah who worked diligently for many years to protect the integrity of the DYK feature and to make Wikipedia a congenial and collaborative place. In her honor, today's DYK queue(s) consists of her past work.
Jane Withers
Jane Withers
Cbl62 (talk) 01:22, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There's limited space on the mainpage, so shorter is better. How about: We mourn the loss of Yoninah with a selection of her most viewed contributions. Wug·a·po·des 01:43, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good @Wugapodes. Minor edit suggesion: *loss of Wikipedian Yoninah with a ... Ktin (talk) 04:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not that I do not think it is deserved, but I do not think we should have an explicit message on the mainpage for this, as it is based on now suppressed outing information. Crafting a special set is a nice tribute, but a public message feels a bit off to me as it stands. CMD (talk) 05:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense. So, we just go with a curated set. No header message. I think that is a good option. Ktin (talk) 05:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The next question is timing. I would suggest 12 April, as it is both close and the date of Yoninah's first DYK. CMD (talk) 05:33, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think what a header in the archive may be appropriate. --evrik (talk) 16:17, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cbl62 Four of the hooks are about food. Please see User:Yoninah/DYK creations and expansions for more variety — Maile (talk) 10:41, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Cbl62, that Jane Withers hook maybe ran too recently? Since it's the image slot, it might be better to find something from longer ago. —valereee (talk) 14:17, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This one's from 2010:
Mother and baby Asian Elephants
Gabi (left) with his mother Tamar
* ... that the birth of Gabi (pictured with mother), the first elephant conceived in Israel through artificial insemination, was viewed live by over 350,000 people in 108 countries?
—valereee (talk) 14:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was going to suggest if Breslov Research Institute could be expanded for DYK purposes, but it appears it already run in 2010. However, with the proposal above considering doing an IAR re-run of her previous work, I do wonder if it's possible if Breslov could be IAR re-run asa well. The hook set idea seems nice, but while I understand the desire for privacy, I wonder if some kind of notice is still appropriate if only for transparency purposes. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think swapping Breslov Research Institute for one of the food hooks above would be a good idea. — Maile (talk) 13:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Or maybe the above mentioned "Wash The Blood Off My Toga"? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 14:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
How about swapping both for two of the four food hooks? — Maile (talk) 14:30, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I support swapping in different/more fitting hooks as those who knew Yoninah believe is appropriate. Cbl62 (talk) 16:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • RIP. Yoninah was one of the most vital contributors to the DYK area, without which the entire queue and prep curation process wouldn't have functioned as well. I do agree with running some of her best work in one queue as a tribute, but as Chipmunkdavis says, it may be a bit strange to have a public message for that. Epicgenius (talk) 13:45, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Here is a proposed rewrite based on suggestions above. Maybe it could be moved to a special occasion holding area for others to discuss and adjust as appropriate:
Justitia et pax, by an anonymous painter

It's hard to choose 8 from such a wealth of good hooks. Other hooks that seemed appropriate and could be considered include:

Cbl62 (talk) 17:46, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just out of curiosity, do we have a list of "eighth hooks" (like in the final slot) that Yoninah did? I suggest we can do five or six of these, one picture, one GA hook, and her first-ever DYK. Epicgenius (talk) 20:25, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Given all of these proposals and how it would be a shame not to include them all, would everyone here be open to a two-set run as opposed to a single set? We could even go to three if needed, with each set focusing on a different theme that she loved (for example, one set for Israel/Judaism articles, another set for her most viewed hooks, another set of other hooks, etc.) Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:54, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree that we have to come up with something, and multiple sets seems like a good idea. Does it strike anyone else besides me as somewhat ironic that the ultimate DYK-gnome Yoninah, who wasn't looking for adminship and was content to work over here creating content and shepherding hook sets around, is now the one who is about to trigger an ultimate IAR scenario? Consider this a virtual standing ovation for accomplishing this. — Maile (talk) 02:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have said what I wish to say on her talk page about this sad circumstance. Nonetheless, in the end, advise editorially following the sprit of WP:NOTMEMORIAL here and not do this, and would note it's when policy gets in the way of something one has an emotional attachment to, that often it is still best to conform consensus with it. The purpose of this project, which she clearly was devoted to, was not to focus on her nor internal Wikipedia feelings/pov, rather to highlight recent improvement in content, recent content produced under the requirements WP PAGs - in the end, consistent service to readers, not self (including our own attachments). Alanscottwalker (talk) 19:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that WP:NOTMEMORIAL applies. I view this as more akin to a special occasion set of hooks. In this case, the special occasion is Yoninah's anniversary of her first DYK contribution. The hooks themselves are still encyclopedic, and the thread above suggests that no public tribute will be posted on the main page, therefore there is no memorial that violates policy. Edge3 (talk) 20:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It rather stretches credulity it is not memorial, given the above discussion, and that it is memorial is reinforced by it not complying with special occasion for DYK. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:08, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NOTMEMORIAL explicitly exempts WP:RIP from that rule. Further, Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines allows for memorial pages, saying: If the colleagues of an editor feel moved to do so, they may create a memorial page to honor the deceased, as long as the family has not objected and the user did not object to it prior to their death... Memorial pages are not mandatory; they are created by the community, for the community, rather than as a requirement. Edge3 (talk) 22:00, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
So, you are intending by this to create a memorial. But you are not working here on a memorial page, you are editing the main page. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:43, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I never said it's not a memorial. I said only that it's not a memorial that violates WP:NOTMEMORIAL. WP:RIP is explicitly listed as an exception to that rule, therefore the policy does not apply. I should also note that WP:DWG is listed as an official guideline. Edge3 (talk) 13:48, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Um hmm. I understand where you are coming from Alanscottwalker, but what is Deceased Wikipedians, if not a memorial to those we have lost? And you've been around long enough to know Wikipedia in general, and DYK specifically, deviates by consensus. What are all Wikipedia's halls of fame lists, where most of the honorees are deceased, if not partially memorials? In Sept 2016, we did two days of complete sets devoted to Star Trek. I seem to remember a great set for the deceased Frank Sinatra. And the list goes on. With Yoninah, it's not her life we celebrate, but her individual contributions to this project. We are not writing condolence memories of her for the main page, but celebrating what she taught us with her own examples. — Maile (talk) 21:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Maile. WP:NOTMEMORIAL is mostly about articles, not for things like this -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 22:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Maile: There is difference in content in the standards we are to apply to editorial decisions, than in what we do for ourselves in internal space. And I am aware that walled garden actions are disfavored, and I that can't really stop you (even if you are now saying you are not doing this in her memory) but what I have been around long enough to know is that I should still offer my good-faith, PAGs-based editorial judgment. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I REALLY don't like the idea of doing this. As much as I enjoyed my interactions with Yoninah, I find this level of memorializing to be a totally inappropriate use of the Main Page. Pick a selection of her "greatest hits" and put it up on her user page with a note about what she did and how she did it here on Wikipedia, but not this. --Khajidha (talk) 15:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I also disagree with using the main page of Wikipedia to recognize any editor. I appreciate the good intentions of many to say thank you, but the appropriate venues for doing so are at her user page, Deceased Wikipedians and The Signpost. Flibirigit (talk) 15:41, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I, on the other hand, would support a one-off IAR re-run of some of Yoninah's hooks. But we can and should keep the symbolism to ourselves. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:01, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Appeared 3 July

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On 3 July, a Shabath and Kafka's birthday, the selected set appeared, Wikipedia:Main Page history/2021 July 3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A less formal one - the Yoninah DYK medal

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Due to the sheer amount of DYKs that Yoninah has created, expanded, and nominated, I think we should make a medal in honor of Yoninah.

  • The Yoninah DYK Creation and Expansion Medal, conferred to whoever reaches the same amount of DYK Articles that Yoninah has created or expanded
  • The Yoninah DYK Nomination Medal, conferred to whoever reaches the same amount of DYK Articles that Yoninah has nominated

--Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 07:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Something like this is much more appropriate. I would advocate for yearly awards, with the recipient being the person with the most creations in the preceding year. --Khajidha (talk) 16:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rather than a number of DYKs, for which there are numerous stars already, why not a DYK service type award? It could be voted on like the annual WP:MILHIST awards. CMD (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Chipmunkdavis: You're right. It should've been a yearly elected award. And I've been thinking about it - how about if we ask editors that were close to Yoninah to provide the silhouette of Yoninah so that we could use it in the medal (or did I miss some kind of privacy loophole with a silhouette?) Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 08:49, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please see List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. There are currrent editors who have created and/or promoted as many or more than Yoninah did. Not the least is the current statistical reigning active champ Gerda Arendt. And running neck-and-neck right behind Gerda is our admin Cwmhiraeth. Yoninah's contributions here were much more than statistics. I don't have an objection to creating something unique to recognize Yoninah, and I do like the idea of some kind of service medal. I have the feeling she would dismiss the idea of singling her out, but a service medal based on non-statistical contributions might be a good way to go. The selfless prep builders come immediately to mind. Yoninah was definitely riding herd over the prep areas, and since she is no longer here, I think we are finding how very valuable the prep builders are. — Maile (talk) 18:25, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review of Yoninah's obituary

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Hi all. A draft of Yoninah's obituary for the Signpost has been started at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/Obituary. Please note that the deadline is Friday night (approximately 00:00 UTC on Saturday, 27 March), so please review and modify at your earliest convenience. Thank you! Edge3 (talk) 04:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All done, and appeared, Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2021-03-28/Obituary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yoninah's work and memory on the Main page

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Today's Main page, 28 March 2021, gives tribute to Yoninah twice: The image from her GA Birds' Head Haggadah is today's featured image on the first day of Passover, and a DYK mentions Psalm 91. More to come, in loving memory.

Did you know ...

Feel free to add! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:23, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The obituary in the Signpost also appeared today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know ...

Pebbles left on Jewish headstones

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Visitation stones explains the above image, and why Jewish people practice this. — Maile (talk) 20:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Maile66: Interesting. Although I'm not a Jewish, I would love to do this whenever I visit a grave. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:36, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More condolences

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I'll admit it, I screwed up your talk the other time. Now, may I apologize, even if I'm far too late? Rest in peace. Firestar464 (talk) 11:01, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting stuff

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I found this DYK nom where me and Yoninah are talking about the death of Louise Elisabeth Coldenhoff in the nom. Coldenhoff and Yoninah later died on a near interval. Coincidence? --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 07:01, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Original Barnstar
I didn't know about her passing. She mentored me and helped me to promoted two articles at DYK. She was always very patient and very helpful. She'll be surely missed. Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 23:50, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Remembered you today.

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Remembered you today Yoninah. I was cleaning up Tarak Sinha who died earlier this week and came across this DYK that you had reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Tarak Sinha. Rest in peace Yoninah. Ktin (talk) 17:56, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Canada 10,000 Challenge fifth anniversary

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The Bronze Maple Leaf Award
This maple leaf is awarded to Yoninah for writing two Canadian women's biographies and promoting them at DYK during the fifth year of The 10,000 Challenge of WikiProject Canada. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 16:58, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is for article improvements made by Yoninah in November and December 2020 (these awards are presented annually in November). Just another reminder of the many contributions made by this editor, which continue to be felt across the Project. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:58, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

a forgotten award

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The 500 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
I guess no one thought to check your records in a while—it was somewhere around four hundred and thirty, but i count five hundred and seven, if that means anything. goes to show how much you contributed to the project; can't even keep track of it all.

i've read through the archives, you know; at dyk's talk page, at your talk page, and everywhere else. you were so much more than just this number i'm leaving here. it's hard to really understand how much you touched every life you interacted with when we've never talked ourselves, but i can see it. i know what you meant to the people who had the joy of working with you. sigh—you fashioned some big shoes to fill, you know that? it seems folly to even try—people are still visiting your memoriam, months later. even though life goes on; we're still remembering you, including those who never even knew you.

they say that some stars live out their whole lives before their light reaches earth; they're so far away that by the time the glow has travelled its billions of light years, the star has already gone out. so here's to the beautiful starlight we never get to see in its largest life. שתלך בשמח בגן העולם הבא, אחות יונינה. i hope i can carry your torch well.

theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (they/them) 06:16, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is a beatiful, sincere homage, and I hope it stays. I wish you בהצלחה and מזל טוב in your endeavors. Good luck, warshy (¥¥) 15:43, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @Theleekycauldron:. --evrik (talk) 14:36, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Always precious

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Yoninah remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking of you today Yoninah. 500 Club!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:10, 1 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Miss you

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Hi Yoninah. I was absent from Wikipedia for about 2 years. I was looking through my DYK nominations and saw your name. The news that you're gone makes me very sad and we miss you. But rest assured that your work will not be forgotten. Learned a lot from you at DYK and hope we can keep your level of quality work at DYK and elsewhere. Miss you. MX () 18:01, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Judith Hemmendinger

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On 31 March 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Judith Hemmendinger, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:47, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thinking of you, with thanks for the article and DYK:

At age 22,
Judith Hemmendinger
helped rehabilitate
nearly 100 child survivors
of the Buchenwald concentration camp,
among them Elie Wiesel.

2 April 2024

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:13, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day!

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